Sunpetal Grove enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a Forest or a Plains.
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Sunpetal Grove Discussion
6 days ago
Minimizing taplands is generally good but expensive (as you know). Plan to eventually replace stuff like the Vivids, snow-duals, and whatever the shorthand for Transguild Promenade is (which, btw, this is twice as slow as a normal tapped land and should 100% be replaced). Yes, even eventually replace the 'gain 1 life' lands that I love :(
I don't know the exact recommended land count. I see as low as 29 (with lots of 0cmc extra expensive cards) and as high as low 40s. I've been targeting 35ish with another 7-8 mana rocks, but I'm not in Green. In Green, you can run 2cmc ramp spells instead of 2cmc mana rocks. like Rampant Growth, Sakura-Tribe Elder, and Farseek.
With all of your land-tutor creatures, make sure you have enough targets. Since you're Chulane, erring on more lands overall might be better?
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1 week ago
The new Innistrad block provided a new cycle of dual lands (Deathcap Glade, Deserted Beach, and so forth), which I appreciate, and I especially like how WotC printed a full cycle of ten dual lands, rather than half a cycle of five dual lands, as they too often do.
Naturally, I am wondering how those dual lands compare to other cycle of dual lands, so I wish to ask others about their opinions of those lands.
The best dual lands of all are obviously the original dual lands (Bayou, Tundra, Plateau, and so forth), but those are too expensive for all but the most hardcore of players, so I shall not mention them any further in this thread.
After the originals, the second-best dual lands are the shock lands (Hallowed Fountain, Sacred Foundry, Godless Shrine, and so forth), which are nearly as good as the originals, with only a very minor downside.
After that, however, it is difficult to say what the next-best cycle is; I say that the "battle lands" (Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista, and so forth), the "check lands" (Glacial Fortress, Sunpetal Grove, Isolated Chapel, and so forth), and the filter lands (Cascade Bluffs, Wooded Bastion, Sunken Ruins, and so forth) are all contenders for the title of third-best dual lands, so I am not certain where the new Innistrad lands rank in comparison to them.
What does everyone else say about this? How good are the new Innistrad dual lands?
2 weeks ago
I see that you are thinking of adding cards that make your creatures indestructible which is useful for combat and potential board wipe spells, but I have a few suggestions that might have a little more utility. Ajani's Presence is ok, but you have to pay 3 mana for every target after the first. And regardless this wont protect anything from exile or sacrifice. Fight as One is similar but also only targets 2 creatures. Most of the instants in your maybe board do similar things. I think it might be a better idea to protect them from everything that a board wipe could do (sacrifice, deal X damage, destroy, and exile) and simply buff the creatures so you don't have to worry about losing them in fights. Akroma's Will will protect all of your creatures from everything (except for Eldrazi with Annihilator or colorless cards). Eerie Interlude blinks all of your creatures which also would protect them from literally anything. The only downside is that it targets them independently so if they have hexproof this doesn't work. Ghostway does the exact same thing but doesnt target so works around hexproof (and is really cool).Silence is a pretty cool card that completely just shuts down someone's turn. Sigarda, Host of Herons protects from forced sacrifice. Lastly, (and most pricey) Teferi's Protection also protects from literally everything.
I also notice you don't have much in the way of removal. Again, I think we can buff your creatures so that they don't need to worry about losing fights, but sometimes there are specific pesky creatures that you need to deal with. For that I'd recommend Urza's Ruinous Blast and Mangara of Corondor. The Wanderer is also really cool, has removal, and protects you from all noncombat damage like damage from Ruric Thar, the Unbowed for example, which is awesome. Aura Shards is also great in this deck for removing non creature problems.
These are those crowd buffs I've been talking about. You've already got Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite which is great. Day of Destiny is pretty cool and works really well with the theme of the deck. Hunting Grounds is AWESOME for increasing your board presence. Seedborn Muse is good for obvious reasons. God-Eternal Rhonas is also a good 1 turn crowd buff. Windbrisk Raptor and True Conviction aren't bad either. Saryth, the Viper's Fang both makes your creatures 1 touch killers but also protect the ones you aren't swinging with. Avacyn, Angel of Hope is pricey but also incredibly strong for a deck like this.
There are a few Selesnya cards that just absolutely shut down other colors. I might recommend these if you can find room for them: Yasharn, Implacable Earth, Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker is awesome and discourages people from attacking you, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger is absolutely brutal and will shut down everyone else's board if not dealt with immediately. Lastly, Linvala, Keeper of Silence will keep a lot at bay.
Lastly, I have a few land suggestions. First of all, why not Sol Ring and Command Tower? Sunpetal Grove and Temple of Plenty are good dual land that can help early game get you the right mana. Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper is a really cool land that isn't that useful in most decks but is great for this one; same goes for the less useful but still cool Eiganjo Castle. Emeria, The Sky Ruin is pretty useful later in the game if you have enough planes; not so good early game. Tyrite Sanctum is another unique land made just for legendary creatures. Hall of the Bandit Lord is expensive but good in almost any creature based deck. Hall of Heliod's Generosity can help you get back your enchantments; I don't think you had anything else to do that. Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth is a no brainer is basically any green/other color deck now. If you find yourself about to lose a creature just use Miren, the Moaning Well and sac it instead for some extra life. Kor Haven is a dope old school card with obvious utility. Last and far most expensive Yavimaya Hollow fits really well in this deck is incredibly useful especially for it to be a land (that's OP!) but that price tag hurts.
Hope this helped!
5 months ago
Back to the legendary sub conversation I ran a deck in Dominaria standard (with guilds and such) that was basically all legendries: Legendary Soup. Once again no win/loss record recorded on Tappedout but I won so much with it at my LGS the deck has become...legendary. I un-privatized the deck so you can play through it but if not I'll give you a run down of what just accomplished in my playtest:
Turn 1 Stomping Ground
5 months ago
Hey Goose_ thanks for the response, I appreciate the feedback. I will definitely pick up some board wipe protection, I just don't own any yet in white and green. I'm new to the commander format and only play with 2 others who are both using store bought commander decks at the moment. Most of these cards my brother-in-law gave me so I'm not concerned about price if I already have it and everything I listed here I have XD
5 months ago
Cute deck idea, however a single board wipe just destroys this deck hard. Maybe include some anti-board wipe tech with Teferi's Protection , Heroic Intervention or even Wrap in Vigor . Second, I'm not sure how much you care about price, but that cradle is taking up HALF the price of this deck! There is a new card from the D&D set called Circle of Dreams Druid which does the same exact thing, just on a creature, which is great bc u want to have your commander out anyways. That would bring the deck price way down if you are looking into that. Also, I would replace that Selesnya Guildgate with something like a Sunpetal Grove so that it is more consistent. Another amazing land that is just special to selesnya is Krosan Verge which is EXTREMELY strong! I could help you out some more but I don't want to put up too much of a text wall for you. If you'd like more suggestions, please just @ me!
6 months ago
For your main board, you could trim a couple lands for some Sythis, Harvest's Hand . I also see some decks running Gryff's Boon over Spirit Mantle . Idk about that one, though. Also, if you are looking for budget lands to help smooth out games, Branchloft Pathway Flip, Brushland , and the other copies of Razorverge Thicket can all be decently cheap. Sunpetal Grove and Canopy Vista could also be decent options especially with more basics in the deck.
7 months ago
Hey, nice job upgrading the precon on a budget. You've definitely done some research into good cards for +1/+1 counters.
Command Tower , Exotic Orchard are staple budget rainbow lands for multicolored decks in Commander. Path of Ancestry is a staple budget rainbow land for four or five colors or tribal. Opal Palace is good with Atraxa to cast her with it to put a +1/+1 counter on her so she can proliferate herself.
33 lands is low for a budget manabase. Consider adding 3 more Forest basic lands for 36 lands? Green is the primary color here and you don't have enough of it in the manabase. More Forests will help Sunpetal Grove and Woodland Cemetery . More basic lands means Prairie Stream and Canopy Vista can be added since they have interaction and can be search for with Farseek to improve ramp with color fixing.
The four Bounce lands ( Simic Growth Chamber ) are not good/too slow with your current manabase because there's too many lands that will always ETB (enter the battlefield) tapped especially the Vivid lands. Consider cutting the four Bounce lands? To help gameplay the Vivid lands, Tri lands, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood and Path of Ancestry can be the only lands that always ETB tapped; that's 10 lands. The rest of the lands in the manabase could ETB untapped.
The budget Pain lands: Yavimaya Coast , Llanowar Wastes and Caves of Koilos ETB untapped and losing 1 life to tap for colored mana is nothing in 40 life Commander especially since Atraxa has lifelink.
Some manabase budget changes to consider:
- Add 3x more Forests
- 1x more Forest --> Selesnya Sanctuary
- 1x more Plains --> Azorius Chancery
- Command Tower --> Golgari Rot Farm
- Exotic Orchard --> Simic Growth Chamber
- Path of Ancestry --> Myriad Landscape
- Opal Palace --> Lonely Sandbar
- Llanowar Wastes --> Llanowar Reborn
- Yavimaya Coast --> Temple of Mystery
- Caves of Koilos --> Quandrix Campus
- Prairie Stream --> Lumbering Falls
- Canopy Vista --> Sungrass Prairie
Good luck with your deck.