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|2010 Core Set (M10)||Rare|
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Whenever an opponent casts a spell, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a creature card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, you may put that card on the bottom of your library.
Lurking Predators Discussion
1 month ago
Hey. Checked out your list after seeing you comment on Your Heart is a Muscle. I have the list built and struggle a lot with card advantage. Got any recommendations? I'm thinking of trying Lifecrafter's Bestiary , Lurking Predators , Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion , or Ohran Frostfang out.
1 month ago
More changed inspired by comments.
If you see anything else that's a good switch let me know, or if you don't agree with something or have a better idea, feel free to comment. Thanks all for the help so far, much appreciated. We'll see how these test out, there is still more I'd like to try in the maybe board
1 month ago
Heck, I'll pitch in. I really enjoy this stuff...
Point 1: Argothian Wurm could probably be cut, unless you feel it's worth experimenting with. A 6/6 trample for 4 CMC is a good deal. If you find he doesn't perform, ditch him.
Point 2: Life gain doesn't seem to be the theme of the deck, so I wouldn't look to keep those cards around for incidental life gain. I'd say 90% of the time, Voracious Wurm is going to be a 2/2 do-nothing for you. Mana dork would be better, or another mana rock. Pelakka Wurm is still a fatty, though, and you could probably keep it. Mayael's Aria is a nice alternate win-con, and if you like having alternate win-cons, then it's worth keeping. If it gets blown off the board all the time, then at least you're sucking resources. Cut at your own discretion.
Point 3: Saltskitter . I don't see an issue with keeping it. It's cute, but not useless, and you need something in the 4 drop slots.
Point 4: Naya Charm . Modal spells are always nice, and although one of the modes might not be as useful, you never know when you might have to trip up a token army. Clearing a path for combat is always good, and Regrowth or or Eternal Witness are always good cards; this one is at instant speed. Worth running, I think. What I would consider is replacing Swords to Plowshares with Generous Gift . More flexibility.
Point 5: Lurking Predators could probably be cut and not be missed. Helps with your commander isn't on the field, but is replaceable.
Point 6: Mayael's Aria - see above.
Point 7: The Planeswalkers: I'm mixed on the inclusion of Planeswalkers. What I do is evaluate the + and - abilities. You've done that pretty well with Garruk. He can at least protect himself with beasts, and at worst, he's another copy of Rishkar's Expertise for you, which isn't bad. He's worth keeping. I'm not as sold on Vivien. First turn, she either gets you a land (because you usually want to keep the creatures in the library), or is a Beast Within for 5 CMC. Not a good trade in my mind. Her ultimate is great, but if your group let's you ultimate her, then they're a bunch of idiots.
Point 8: The creature droppers. Like you mentioned earlier, you're going to end up with creatures in your hand, whether you want to or not. These will help you drop them at the end of an opponent's turn, providing pseudo-haste, which is not bad, and gets around counter spells for the most part. The Piper is the best of the bunch as far as cost goes, but fragile because it's a creature. If I was going to cut one, I'd probably cut Quicksilver Amulet in this deck.
Hope that all helps, and I look forward to seeing other opinions, too.
1 month ago
Made some changes based on your suggestions, let me know what you think. Longish read condensed.
Argothian Wurm : Early game goodness, late game could slow us down facing certain decks that can abuse lands.
Naya's Charm: I have mixed feelings about. 3dmg to creature only feels like a waste. Returning a card from the yard could prove useful if commander tax adds up. Lastly and most used is clearing a path to swing. Should this slot be filled with a better removal spell, or is there worth I'm missing here?
Lurking Predators : Our new commander has a similar ability that's less annoying. Also its not a 'May' trigger so we could potentially be forced into casting our deck into a wipe.
Mayael's Aria : There's no other counter synergy in the deck, but bigger is always better. Surprise wincon? Slot in something better?
Garruk, Primal Hunter vs Vivien Reid : One or both? Garruk protects himself on the ground, draws cards, and makes a mess of Wurms. Vivian finds critters, destroys flyers (glaring weakness in the deck), and an emblem to boost our field. Both technically have the same turn clock to go off except Garruk can be used as a 5cmc one shot draw spell, whereas vivian can minus and have points remaining.
Something else I've been mulling over is what to replace these last 2/3 with... as they are no longer as useful, at least not all of them. Piper may have a use to stay being: a) it's a creature that can be egged, and b) with a haste enabler out it can be 5cmc for 2 creatures.
Belbe's Portal : 8cmc(5/t:3) investment for 1 creature limited to type.
Quicksilver Amulet : 8cmc (4/t:4) investment for 1 creature
Elvish Piper : still may have it's uses. 5cmc (4/t:1) investment, haste enabler preferred prior to casting.
1 month ago
I feel like cheating in dinos and big stuff outside of your commanders ability is where you want to be in this deck. I wouldn't cut Lurking Predators i'd keep and add more effects like it. Elvish Piper is literally Timmy.
2 months ago
First of all...I wish I knew about Reinforcements prior to purchasing Noxious Revival to play the same role in my deck, but here we are haha. Also, Reclaim is another good budget reanimator option for this deck.
Anyways, as a fellow person trying to brew with Atla, here are some suggestions. I am not sure of your budget restrictions so some of these may be a bit expensive:
You run a bunch of mana dorks, which are dud hits with Atla. You mention in your description that you use top deck manipulation to help avoid this, but that doesn't always work. You could probably completely avoid the issue by using more mana rocks and sorcery ramp in place of the mana dorks. That would ensure that all of your egg hits are impactful. Your mana dorks are also a bit of a nonbo with Marauding Raptor .
Penance is fantastic for sculpting the top of your library from your hand. It adds additional protection as well.
Nesting Dragon can consistently provide eggs and is an amazing board wipe deterrent.
You might also be creature heavy enough to profitably use Lurking Predators
+1 from me!
2 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions. The thing I don't like about Lurking Predators is if I got a Hydra it comes in and dies. Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger would be great for that extra Mana but my play group has a "don't mess with lands" unofficial house rule. I do like Deadbridge Goliath and may try to work it in.
2 months ago
Lurking Predators occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%