Miren, the Moaning Well
: Add to your mana pool.
, , Sacrifice a creature: You gain life equal to the sacrificed creature's toughness.
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Miren, the Moaning Well Discussion
1 month ago
I have a different experience with Atla, I run 0 true combos with her & I am usually a target (often rightfully so), probably is meta dependent. I typically don't need haste or even a combat step, which I love. I just play all the red stuff that you never get to see stick. A few alternatives to the usual sac outlets: Pyrohemia , Dragon Broodmother - eats eggs on upkeep if you want, Miren, the Moaning Well , Volcanic Fallout - sneaky good instant egg death when no one suspects. Indomitable Creativity for double triggers & control, Gruul Ragebeast is sweet control... though it makes timing those eggs more restrictive. Then I just run a bunch of direct damage & doublers/triplers. Best feeling in the world when you make them pay for cyc rift with 24 dmg with Ruric Thar, the Unbowed or they just die for casting that stupid spell :)
2 months ago
Hey! I think that this deck should use Miren, the Moaning Well . It's a way of regaining life with a creature that will die because of some effect. It makes you gain a lot of life and increases the effect of Willowdusk's ability.
About the untap effects outside of blue, you can use Thousand-Year Elixir or Magewright's Stone . About combos... well, if you use sacrifice effects (e.g. Ashnod's Altar ), you could try the Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Triskelion -like combos (actually, these two work alone, but some combos needs a sac outlet). Depending of other cards, loops with Mikaeus, sacrifice outlets and creatures with Persist could also work.
An artifact like Eternity Vessel can reset your life (if I remember well, having your life total become some value counts as lifegain).
Maybe creatures like Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper or Reyhan, Last of the Abzan works well inside this deck. As instants or sorceries... the only one that came to my mind now is Weather the Storm , which can be very interesting in some situations.
Why use cards like Jaddi Offshoot (gains you only one life), Dash Hopes (I think that's an unreliable counterspell and the 5 life is a low cost in EDH), Blunt the Assault (I think that this card is pretty bad, maybe a card like Gray Merchant of Asphodel gains you much more life while drains your opponents) or Lifegift (it won't make you gain a lot of life on the same turn)?
3 months ago
Beebles these are a lot of suggestions, so i'll try to give you an idea of what i think about them.
Miren, the Moaning Well and Temple of the False God i don't like in general, and i try as few nonbasics as possible because of Nissa and Vernal bloom caring about Forests. Castle Garenbrig on the other hand i like a lot, being a turn 5 Multani by itself, i wonder why it isn't already in the deck honestly. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is pretty expensive and i don't own a copy. Would be a nice fit if i got one, even if it requires already having a board to make positive mana. Very nice combo with Mana Reflection too.
Pathbreaker and Myojin are a bit slow. Myojin can empty your hand but if you have nine mana leftover after resolving a big draw spell you're usually doing pretty fine anyways. I don't like Crossroads being symmetrical. Crashing Drawbridge is good and i'm looking for a spot for it.
Overall nice suggestions, thanks :)
3 months ago
Nice to see another Multani list! I see we run quite similar builds. However, I also noticed you omitted some cards I really value in my deck. Here are some for your consideration:
- Miren, the Moaning Well : Get a bunch of life when you really need it
- Temple of the False God & Castle Garenbrig : both these lands get your commander out a turn earlier
- Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx : another land that can ramp you
- The Great Henge & Inscription of Abundance : awesome power matters cards
- Myojin of Life's Web : another great way to empty your hand after a big draw spell
- Psychosis Crawler : alternative wincon
- Pathbreaker Ibex : another overwhelming stampede effect
- Crashing Drawbridge & Concordant Crossroads : additional haste enablers
Hope there are some cards there that fit your vision for the deck.
GL & HF!
8 months ago
I'd also consider Miren, the Moaning Well since you have a lot of fatties that are going to die anyway, but the usefulness of the life gain obviously depends on your meta.
1 year ago
hi, I like your deck! I have a couple suggestions:
Esper Panorama > Warped Landscape
i would consider High Market over or in addition to Miren, the Moaning Well.
I like Mirrorpool in theory but ive found i like never actually use its ability and it ETBs tapped - so i like Temple of the False God for 2x the mana and etb untapped...
your removal selection is really good already..
Proper Burial feels like an, "if you're winning win more" card to me but idk.
given that you are sacrificing your creatures i feel like you could have a little more recursion... i like Phyrexian Reclamation and Unburial Rites.
also i would consider just a little more card draw in general, i like Promise of Power, Ambition's Cost, Skeletal Scrying, Phyrexian Arena. but i've never played your deck so idk maybe you usually have enough cards.
anyway those are my thoughts, hope they are helpful and keep on having fun!
1 year ago
Hi, I also try to find a good way playing this commander (Kathril Turbo Fog [no Primer yet]). For ramp you may consider Sylvan Caryatid and/ or Leyline Prowler. Both cards help out early and later on in the game. Sometimes it's hard to get indestructible creatures in the graveyard, therefor High Market and/ or Miren, the Moaning Well could sack them in the right moment. (Maybe Evolutionary Leap too)
If you are going more in the direction of supporting your commander, you may need some cards to get Zetalpa, Primal Dawn, Akroma, Angel of Wrath earlier in the graveyard. In fact, normally you won't play them very fast - though Kathril, Aspect Warper needs those cards in the graveyard zone. Buried Alive, Entomb or other filter cards like Grisly Salvage could be helpful. The other way around would be to get them out with Pattern of Rebirth, - so directly into play - or by discarding them (you already have Fauna Shaman considered, but there other ways too..
These are just my first thoughts, I'm still brewing on my deck - which goes into Turbo Fog strategy, so a bit different - but there are many questions on my side too..
1 year ago
Cut the duplicates
- 1x Snow-Covered Forest
- 1x Snow-Covered Island
- 1x Snow-Covered Swamp
- 1x Forest
- 1x Island
- 1x Swamp
- 1x Dryad Arbor
- 1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
- 1x Tainted Wood
- 1x Tainted Isle
Other good (utility) lands which are always good:
- Scavenger Grounds = mass graveyard-hate (exiles EVERY yard, which is including your own) on a land: because it's colorless you can... no you should play it everywhere (except in decks like muldrotha here which care a lot about the ohn graveyard)
- High Market/Miren, the Moaning Well = sac outlet on a land (I can highly recommend those lands
- Reliquary Tower = only worth the slot if you have TONS OF CARDDRAW I never found this card good outside of blue and black decka with wheel effects or cards like Ad Nauseam or Necropotence
- Geier Reach Sanitarium/Mikokoro, Center of the Sea = let's draw cards
- Haunted Fengraf/Buried Ruin = let's bring things back
- Rogue's Passage = make creatures unblockable
"Slow Lands" which sadly enter the battlefield tapped but, (in my opinion) are worth that downside:
Bojuka Bog = graveyard-hate on a land: which is every of my black decks, because somebody is always playing graveyard strategies
The Tri-lands = like Opulent Palace
I can also highly recommend visiting as a source of inspiration.
It would really appreciate it if you would visit some of my decks and leave comment there