Miren, the Moaning Well
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Miren, the Moaning Well

Legendary Land

: Add to your mana pool.

, , Sacrifice a creature: You gain life equal to the sacrificed creature's toughness.

markbeloit on Kura

6 months ago

You wrote me an essay Profet93, so I took awhile to respond. Will try and address your question comments one-by-one.

Regarding Null Rod: It was in the prototype of this deck, but Collector Ouphe was cheaper, so I opted for the ouphe.

Regarding Snow-Covered Forests: Would probably be better, but I'd rather not pay the $.

Regarding Elemental Bond/Garruk's Uprising vs Colossal Majesty: In 90% of decks I'd agree with you that those two are better, but in this deck, I think Colossal Majesty might be better. I don't have that many creatures ETBing, and sometimes I have a big creature around for several turns. In those scenarios, I think Colossal Majesty generates more value.

Regarding Hour of Promise: Good, but not sure I need it.

Regarding Pir's Whim: Good, and not a card I knew of. Will have to keep an eye out for something to cut.

Regarding Yavimaya Hollow: Too much $. I don't think I need it enough.

Regarding Miren, the Moaning Well: I don't like Miren very much. True it's a second sac outlet, but I consider it vastly inferior to High Market. I really don't like having to pay . And while I'm in trouble if someone blows up High Market, that hasn't happened yet.

Regarding Castle Garenbrig: Should probably cut a forest for this, and probably will when I get one.

Regarding Mirrorpool: Worth considering. There's only a few instants and sorceries I'd want to sac a land to copy, though, and I have to pay . Also, I'm trying to be a bit careful about how many utility lands I have in the deck, specifically lands that don't make . If you have too many colorless lands you can get screwed.

Regarding Greater Good: Was a card I was seriously considering when building the deck, but saccing Kura to it is not that great. Bottom line, though, I thought for sure Greater Good would get destroyed immediately if I played it, which is why I decided against it.

Regarding Nylea's Intervention: Ok, but not sure I need it.

As always, a problem is what to cut. This deck does fairly well, and when that's the case, I'm always leery of cutting a card unless I see something strictly better.

Regarding Abundance + Sylvan Library: Drawing 3 cards per turn with no down side is fine, though it doesn't happen often :)

Regarding Abundance, it actually has some additional tech to it. In this deck I've been able to put every land in my deck into play once or twice. With Abundance, you put the revealed cards you don't get on the bottom of your library in ANY order, not a random order. So if I Abundance to get a land and don't have any in my deck.... I can rig the order of my deck. At that point your basically tutoring instead of drawing. Doesn't happen often, but is powerful when it does.

You also can't deck yourself if Abundance is in play, though that hasn't come up yet. A fun piece of tech, though not for every deck.

Sorry for taking so long to respond. I put it off since I knew I'd have to write a lot. Thanks for the suggestions, and I'll think of them, though again the problem is what to cut.

Profet93 on Kura

8 months ago

markbeloit +1

I like your fight + stax pieces. Have you thought of adding redundancy for collector ouphe with Null Rod or do you believe it's not necessary? It only shuts off the activated ability of conduit of worlds.

You should swap out half of your forests for snow-covered to trigger field of the dead more easily.

Elemental Bond/Garruk's Uprising > Collasal majesty.

Hour of Promise - Land tutor

Pir's Whim - Land tutor + politics and/or removal.

Yavimaya Hollow - Protection + politics. I get you want stuff to die most of the time but it's nice to be able to protect something or be political when you want to.

Mirrorpool - Copy important instants and sorceries

Miren, the Moaning Well - Sac outlet for commander. can also sac the token it makes to gain life in a pinch.

Castle Garenbrig - Ramp

MAYBE Greater Good - It's main purpose is to be a sac outlet for your commander. It is also nice against theft decks. Not to mention it can put lands in your grave for you to recur. Lastly, it can make your token created by your commander a fuel for additional draw.

MAYBE Nylea's Intervention - While your commander does allow you to tutor, sometimes it might get exiled, or maybe you want the token more than the land tutor. Not to mention it can destroy fliers which this deck seems to be weak against.

How is the abundance + sylvan library combo been treating you?

Looking forward to your response for each suggestion. I like this deck, I've been thinking of adding Kura to my Azusa list.

Profet93 on The Inevitable Annihilation

9 months ago

Krugz

Ah, that makes a lot of sense, very solid reasoning! Thank you for taking the time to explain it. I know you're budget, but perhaps a card to potentially consider for future acquisition would be Cavern of Souls? I know you generally want ulamog to die but it's nice to have the option to keep him around, can never be too careful against the blue player.

Speaking of lands and Ulamog dying, High Market and Miren, the Moaning Well might do you some good, particularly if theft is an issue. The latter has helped me against burn.

RiotRunner789 on Super Shivan

1 year ago

If you need more sack outlets you could consider High Market and Miren, the Moaning Well. Goblin Bombardment is also a good one that is hard to remove (though easier than lands).

One thing you may also consider is cutting down on creatures if you are having too hard of a time getting Shivan. Would you rather get Drannith Magistrate or Shivan when you sac an egg? Drannith is a good card but may be getting in the way of your strategy.

Tur on Hidden Power - Crop Rotation

1 year ago

Hello everyone! This will be a trial forum post for a "Commander - Hidden Power" series. My goal is to show relatively inexpensive cards which are often overlooked by commander players in semi-competitive and casual play. (This post is not designed for competitive play.) If you enjoy the topic, please provide positive feedback and I will consider creating similar posts.

The powerful card I plan on discussing here is Crop Rotation.

This card under five dollars and is one of the most powerful mono-green tutors. Period. Yes, I'm counting all mono-green tutors. This includes: Worldly Tutor, Finale of Devastation, Green Sun's Zenith, Survival of the Fittest, Chord of Calling, Natural Order, Tooth and Nail, Sylvan Tutor, Time of Need, Scapeshift, Hour of Promise, Tempt with Discovery, Reshape the Earth, Boundless Realms, Traverse the Outlands, Rampant Growth, Harrow, Cultivate, Harvest Season, Explosive Vegetation, etc.

It's one color, one mana, instant, searches for any land, you can sacrifice a tapped land, and puts the land onto the battlefield untapped (unless otherwise specified).

Although, Crop Rotation is often overlooked by players because of the very expensive cards it can search and not being "flashy" enough. Yes, Crop Rotation is ideal with any of the following cards: Gaea's Cradle, Mishra's Workshop, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Serra's Sanctum, Bazaar of Baghdad, and Diamond Valley. However, suppose we don't have a one thousand dollar mana base and cannot play the land cards above. Is Crop Rotation worthless? No. It is still one of the best mono-green tutors. There are so many utility and theme lands which are excellent targets. Ramp lands and color-fixing are also viable options. Here are a few categorized ideas:

Utility Lands:

Theme Lands:

Ramp Lands:

Color-Fixing Lands:

There are many more unlisted cards in each category which could fit your specific deck.

Some of the cards listed above have some pretty cool synergies with Crop Rotation here are a few:Urza's Saga, you can let the saga get to chapter III, then with the ability on the stack sacrifice it to Crop Rotation to get both the artifact and land. Field of the Dead is ideal in every two or three color commander deck with a sufficient mana base (in fact some of my win conditions are given by Field of the Dead). You can also use Field of the Dead as a combat trick. Scavenger Grounds and Bojuka Bog are fantastic for graveyard combo disruption. Maze of Ith and Glacial Chasm will hurt your lands, but sometimes it is needed to stay alive.

Simply having the ability to greatly effect the board state using a one-mana instant speed spell is impressive: life gain, damage prevention, removing steal effects, getting around blockers, denying counterspells, combo stoppers, unlimited hand size, sacrifice engines, haste, recursion, ramp, creating token blockers. The list goes on-and-on-and-on. If fact, if you're playing 3-4 of the lands listed above you should really consider Crop Rotation in the ninety-nine.

All in all, I'm always surprised the number of deck lists which do not play Crop Rotation. This is a fantastic card and one of the best mono-green tutors. It has so much hidden power. Ask yourself if there is a nonbasic land which you are playing (or would play) that would do well with Crop Rotation.

DoIStillLoveIt on Rebel Holler

2 years ago

Have you considered the infinite life combo with Task Force+Outrider en-Kor+ either Animal Boneyard/Condemn/Miren, the Moaning Well/Worthy Cause? I run it in my Lin-Sivvi and it's a nice way to buy yourself time to find the win.

Magic09865 on Merieke Ri Berit - Flicker/Exile Esper (WUB) EDH

2 years ago

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GangstaFranksta on Heroes of the Weatherlight

2 years ago

I see that you are thinking of adding cards that make your creatures indestructible which is useful for combat and potential board wipe spells, but I have a few suggestions that might have a little more utility. Ajani's Presence is ok, but you have to pay 3 mana for every target after the first. And regardless this wont protect anything from exile or sacrifice. Fight as One is similar but also only targets 2 creatures. Most of the instants in your maybe board do similar things. I think it might be a better idea to protect them from everything that a board wipe could do (sacrifice, deal X damage, destroy, and exile) and simply buff the creatures so you don't have to worry about losing them in fights. Akroma's Will will protect all of your creatures from everything (except for Eldrazi with Annihilator or colorless cards). Eerie Interlude blinks all of your creatures which also would protect them from literally anything. The only downside is that it targets them independently so if they have hexproof this doesn't work. Ghostway does the exact same thing but doesnt target so works around hexproof (and is really cool).Silence is a pretty cool card that completely just shuts down someone's turn. Sigarda, Host of Herons protects from forced sacrifice. Lastly, (and most pricey) Teferi's Protection also protects from literally everything.

I also notice you don't have much in the way of removal. Again, I think we can buff your creatures so that they don't need to worry about losing fights, but sometimes there are specific pesky creatures that you need to deal with. For that I'd recommend Urza's Ruinous Blast and Mangara of Corondor. The Wanderer is also really cool, has removal, and protects you from all noncombat damage like damage from Ruric Thar, the Unbowed for example, which is awesome. Aura Shards is also great in this deck for removing non creature problems.

These are those crowd buffs I've been talking about. You've already got Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite which is great. Day of Destiny is pretty cool and works really well with the theme of the deck. Hunting Grounds is AWESOME for increasing your board presence. Seedborn Muse is good for obvious reasons. God-Eternal Rhonas is also a good 1 turn crowd buff. Windbrisk Raptor and True Conviction aren't bad either. Saryth, the Viper's Fang both makes your creatures 1 touch killers but also protect the ones you aren't swinging with. Avacyn, Angel of Hope is pricey but also incredibly strong for a deck like this.

There are a few Selesnya cards that just absolutely shut down other colors. I might recommend these if you can find room for them: Yasharn, Implacable Earth, Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker is awesome and discourages people from attacking you, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger is absolutely brutal and will shut down everyone else's board if not dealt with immediately. Lastly, Linvala, Keeper of Silence will keep a lot at bay.

Real quick, I notice the deck doesn't have much draw. Consider adding something like Beast Whisperer or more expensively Mangara, the Diplomat.

Lastly, I have a few land suggestions. First of all, why not Sol Ring and Command Tower? Sunpetal Grove and Temple of Plenty are good dual land that can help early game get you the right mana. Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper is a really cool land that isn't that useful in most decks but is great for this one; same goes for the less useful but still cool Eiganjo Castle. Emeria, The Sky Ruin is pretty useful later in the game if you have enough planes; not so good early game. Tyrite Sanctum is another unique land made just for legendary creatures. Hall of the Bandit Lord is expensive but good in almost any creature based deck. Hall of Heliod's Generosity can help you get back your enchantments; I don't think you had anything else to do that. Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth is a no brainer is basically any green/other color deck now. If you find yourself about to lose a creature just use Miren, the Moaning Well and sac it instead for some extra life. Kor Haven is a dope old school card with obvious utility. Last and far most expensive Yavimaya Hollow fits really well in this deck is incredibly useful especially for it to be a land (that's OP!) but that price tag hurts.

Hope this helped!

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