Temur Sabertooth

Creature — Cat

{1}{G}: You may return another target creature you control to its owner's hand. If you do, CARDNAME gains indestructible until end of turn.

Discussion (42)

Katzmania on [PRIMER]Parley Girl cEDH

1 month ago

Like the deck a lot, I think you could make a couple key additions: Firstly Allosaurus Shepherd because it´s just so good against blue decks. Secondly Chord of Calling is Green Suns (little less mana efficient but with convoke and can grap Heliod or Ballista) is great for a combo orriented decklist. Concordant Crossroads is also amazing, just hasting the team for g. It also allows you to add Temur Sabertooth, as it plus Crossroads + any dork that taps for a lot such as Karametra's Acolyte to make infinite mana. Also, (just an elves tribal suggestion here), I love Heritage Druid as a card in any elves based list.

LordCelticGuardian on Convoluted Combos

1 month ago

Sorry Eternal Witness+Temur Sabertooth as stated at the top of my comment.

LordCelticGuardian on Convoluted Combos

1 month ago

Eternal Witness+Temur Sabertooth allow many combos for sure repeatedly getting pieces back with infinite mana.

A combo I've used in my Selvala, Heart of the Wilds deck before uses her to set up the combo with an infinite way of producing mana via having a creature with at least 5 power in play and the likes of Sword of the Paruns or Umbral Mantle to repeately tap and untap her. From there you combine both Beast Within+Somberwald Stag to turn all your opponents' boards into 3/3 Beasts then have Somberwald Stag fight them all then return both cards with Eternal Witness+Somberwald Stag until your opponents have nothing left.

AstroAA on Convoluted Combos

1 month ago

So I was reading a post by jaymc1130 (found here) where he talks about Summer Bloom combos, and as someone who runs a Titania, Protector of Argoth land combo deck, I got to thinking on how I could somehow try to incorporate a combo where lands can infinitely ETB and LTB. So, I got to thinking on how I could possibly abuse Summer Bloom to accomplish this. After a couple iterations, I finally settled on this monstrosity:

I decided to use a flow chart maker to try and illustrate the method to my madness. I tried to group each card with similar variations that could be acceptable substitutes. For example, on the left side with Crucible of Worlds, Ramunap Excavator, and Ancient Greenwarden you could use any one of those three to accomplish the task that needs to be performed - that being playing lands from the graveyard to play. Likewise on the right side of the picture, the group of five cards I view as methods to try and protect the combo. The arrows point towards what the previous card uses; like Aluren points to Eternal Witness which points to Summer Bloom which points to the Forests, etc.

You could also use Cloudstone Curio to bounce the Eternal Witness, but I feel like Cloudstone Curio combos are cheating. Disregard that little top right corner because I realized after I made it that little corner in it of itself generates infinite mana really easily with Aluren and Concordant Crossroads. Oh well. I also should've moved Lotus Cobra to where the Vernal Bloom and Heartbeat of Spring is, but I digress.

If you want an explanation on how the combo works, I'll put an accordion block with it here. That way you can try and figure it out for yourself if you want.

The Combo

So this combo at it's bare bones requires at least 13 mana worth of permanents on the board at the start, (Aluren = 4, Temur Sabertooth = 4, Zuran Orb = 0, Crucible of Worlds = 3, Lotus Cobra = 2), and two mana floating/available to you in addition to three forests. These forests can either be tapped or untapped, or don't even need to be in play; they just need to be there for Summer Bloom.

At a minimum, the combo follows as such:

• 1. Cast Summer Bloom, playing three additional Forests. With Lotus Cobra out, you have six mana floating, (three from Cobra, three from the forests).
• 2. Cast Eternal Witness for free with Aluren, recurring the Summer Bloom
• 3. Sacrifice the forests to Zuran Orb.
• 4. Cast Summer Bloom, going down to four mana floating, and playing the three forests from your graveyard to the battlefield netting an additional six mana for a total of 10 floating mana.
• 5. Bounce the Eternal Witness with Temur Sabertooth, going down to 8 floating mana.
• 6. Cast Eternal Witness for free with Aluren, recurring the Summer Bloom.
• 7. Sacrifice the forests to Zuran Orb
• 8. Cast Summer Bloom, going down to 6 floating mana, and playing the three forests from your graveyard to the battlefield netting an additional six mana for a total of 12 mana.
• 9. Repeat from step 5.

Holy shit. Now that I think about it, you might not need Aluren. You could theoretically just do it with Eternal Witness, but I'm not going to work through that math. When I did it with my head, you netted two mana every time because of the cost of Summer Bloom and Temur Sabertooth's ability. Feel free to yell at me or correct me in the comments. I am very bad at math.

So yeah. This is definitely a mess and probably unfeasible to pull off in games, but I had fun coming up with it regardless.

Do you all know of any convoluted combos like this? I'm quite interested in seeing them!

ENVE on A God and Her Usurpers

1 month ago

AstroAA updated the list to include Temur Sabertooth. Thanks for the suggestion, still playtesting with Amulet of Vigor but ill update as I play with it more

AstroAA on How do you build Karametra?

1 month ago

I used to run a Karametra, God of Harvests combo deck ages ago when Paradox Engine was legal. I updated it last summer, but it's still kind of mediocre and I would definitely redo it again if I had any interest in the deck. Regardless, if you're interested - my decklist is here:

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[EDH][PRIMER] Karametra's Garden of Eden

Commander / EDH* AstroAA

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I did not go with the landfall mechanic as I'm not particularly a fan of it outside of Lotus Cobra. IMO she's best built abusing ETB triggers with cards like Aluren and Cloudstone Curio.

Cards like Whitemane Lion, Kor Skyfisher, and Emancipation Angel are absolutely phenomenal in Karametra. They bounce themselves, allowing you to play them again and get more lands. With Aluren out, you can get every single Forest/Plains out of your deck in a single turn.

Cards like Wall of Blossoms and Wall of Omens are great with Aluren + Cloudstone Curio because you could essentially draw your entire deck in one go. Albeit you'd need to be careful and specify how far you should go with this otherwise you'd deck yourself, but that's beyond the point - still a powerful draw effect.

With Aluren, Cards like Sandsteppe Outcast and Hanged Executioner are awesome for getting an arbitrarily large number of tokens, as the token on the ETB effect can bounce the creature that generated it with Cloudstone Curio. This can pay out in several different ways - mainly infinite mana with Ashnod's Altar and/or Phyrexian Altar through sacing the token, and infinite damage/winning the game on the spot with Blasting Station and sacing the token. You could also create infinite tokens with Oketra's Monument and any of the self-bounce creatures if you just have Aluren out.

I also really liked cards like Reveillark, Renegade Rallier, Destiny Spinner, Eternal Witness, Aura Shards, Bygone Bishop, Temur Sabertooth, and Rhonas's Monument.

Personally, if you wanted to play a straight-up ETB combo deck, I think Trostani, Selesnya's Voice is a better general due to having far easier access to using Aetherflux Reservoir, (generate a ton of life with Aluren + Whitemane Lion, shoot people with the Death Star). Karametra, God of Harvests is nice for land filtering, but you only run so many lands in the deck she becomes kind of useless later on in the game - hence why I've kind of lost interest in her. In addition, what TypicalTimmy said is very true - if you rush out to an early lead in lands with her, you often become a target. IF you wanted to build Karametra, God of Harvests still, I would highly recommend going combo and including a myriad of methods to win - such as combat damage, Walking Ballista combos, and Blasting Station combos.

AstroAA on A God and Her Usurpers

2 months ago

ENVE I would recommend cutting Ao, the Dawn Sky for Temur Sabertooth simply because his effect is on death and not ETB, and you don't run any sacrifice outlets besides Birthing Pod. If you don't have Birthing Pod in play, he's essentially a near-dead card.

If you wanted to replace a 4cmc card, I'd say cut Oracle of Mul Daya; she's nice, but not needed when you're getting 2~3 lands a turn out from Karametra. You can thin your deck fast enough she's not needed, especially if you're doing shenanigans with Whitemane Lion.

Also another idea is Amulet of Vigor. It's just too good in Karametra as all your lands ETB untapped instead of tapped.

ENVE on A God and Her Usurpers

3 months ago

AstroAA

Thank you for the feedback!

The main purpose of the deck is for easy gameplay, hence the lack of "strong" combos in the deck. I designed the deck to be pretty straight forward to understand and play with so anyone can pick up the deck, not needing to know any pieces of combo cards required to "go off" to play with.

Secondly, I appreciate the recommendations! I will definitely pick up these cards for the maybe board and playtest with them to see how they flow with the deck.

One main inclusion that I will likely add is Temur Sabertooth as that card is straightforward and easy to understand and has very strong synergy. My creatures list is very tight but as soon as I find something to cut I will!