Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
: Add to your mana pool.
, : Choose a color. Add to your mana pool an amount of mana of that color equal to your devotion to that color. (Your devotion to a color is the number of mana symbols of that color in the mana costs of permanents you control.)
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Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx Discussion
4 days ago
Whenever you exile a creature, it's controller draws a card and you gain 1 life.
I'm not entirely certain, but Livio seems to want to be built around ETB effects. Exile your own creatures, then bring them back into one massive drop; For example, Luminate Primordial would be an incredibly strong blink creature. Sure your opponents gain a ton of life, but you remove their biggest threats permanently. Additionally, as he has Partner, you can add in for something such as Woodfall Primus or Terastodon . You could even use use Meteor Golem . If you run Selesnya, you're already in extremely strong ramp territory as green loves to ramp with creatures and white loves to make creatures. Suddenly your Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun , Gaea's Cradle and Cryptolith Rite look astounding. Not to mention Circle of Dreams Druid and, if you use enchantments to protect yourself such as a Prison / Stax deck, Serra's Sanctum . There's also Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx , Nyxbloom Ancient and Mana Reflection .
Hone in the strategy with Trostani, Selesnya's Voice and similar life-gaining creatures such as Suture Priest , Soul Warden , Soul's Attendant , Angelic Chorus and Essence Warden for a massive gap between you and your opponents.
Anyway, there ya go. A skeleton for a down and dirty Selesnya deck. Go have some fun with it.
Since you are going for extreme ramp and board presence, I'd recommend Partnering with Halana, Kessig Ranger so that when they enter you can pay and have removal-on-a-stick, too.
Kodama of the East Tree would be nice but that's a trap. You'll be outed as the archenemy at the table on Turn 0. Sure you get to cheat a bunch of things into play, but that doesn't help advance your wincon. I'd rather see Halana in the Command Zone for that removal option, so that the creatures we are playing around with can get through and finish the game off quickly. You're going creature-heavy, so use them.
5 days ago
Most of my hydra experience is in simic, but I'll leave some general thoughts anyway. First, I think Elvish Archdruid isn't impactful enough with only 6 elves in the deck. I'd rather have redundancy for Arbor Elf with something like Voyaging Satyr . In addition to being able to untap forests enchanted with Overgrowth , Utopia Sprawl , and the like, it can also untap the beastly green devotion staple of Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx . Otherwise, Gyre Sage is an option that pairs very well with Doubling Season and Kalonian Hydra if acquired. Another bomb that works well with Season is Hydra Broodmaster since it cares about both counters and tokens. Some other possible inclusions are Ram Through instead of Pit Fight for trample synergy, Unbound Flourishing for x-cost synergy, and As Luck Would Have It because it looks like you're rolling a lot of dice.
1 week ago
And what was the context of "better" there? Better fast mana than creatures does? Better than Academy itself? What Grubbernaut was afraid of, was an artifact that taps for mana for the amount of artifacts you control. Because that makes artifact ramp better than it already is, probably better than it should be, considering how much Academy is restricted and banned in every format right now. And he asked why they would print such a card. A card that does better, not a card that is better. Because they still shouldn't.
That was the question I was answering, related to the original Cradle-Circle Druid. The reason they'd print a card like that, is the same reason they printed Nyx Lotus in the revisit to Theros, after printing Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx in the original block. "Hey, 'member this card everyone used to play?" "Oh I 'member, now I need to buy that"
The power level of the card they'll print does not matter, because that's not the reason it would be printed. The only power level that matters is that of the card referenced, because that will be the reason people will want one. The reason the new one is worse than the original is the only reason they can print it in the first place. But if the effect is memorable enough, people will buy & try again.
So I'm sorry I didn't open my answer with "they won't, but..." I thought that was implied when you'd follow the whole topic, not just the exact bit of text I copied and read that as gospel.
1 week ago
First off I want to say thanks for your reply and interest in my deck. I'd like to take a second to follow up on your thoughts and say why I wanted to try what I did.
"You have some cards that don't add enough to your gameplan" section. 1. Greater Harvester probably isn't good, and I am willing to admit its something I put in here as a pet card. The general idea I had behind harvester being a sac outlet for flagstones (originally a 4 of) and any other random permanents I might want to lose. The upside I did see is that it will generally require a 2 for 1 to remove and if it happens to deal combat damage, all the better.
Regarding your suggestion of World Queller , it was a card I didn't even know existed. I like it and will consider it for future versions of the deck. Ideally, I would like the deck to be primarily black based with a small amount of white, if possible.
Tergrid is just something to help break the symmetry of braids. I intend to use this primarily for the front side, but I've considered the back side if I ever wanted to try and go in a full pox or even Death Cloud style of build.
Thalia taxing me a lot is a pretty accurate point. The only reason I really like thalia is for it's ability to block and slow an opponent down.
I just went with leyline for the free aspect. Your suggestion of virtue is probably better, because I do want something to make my creatures reasonable clocks. It also helps against things like Plague Engineer .
I got nothing on this one...just figured it fit the token theme.
Coffers doesn't have any real point, but I think about it like a Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx . Maybe I should consider that.
Crucible is there to leverage braids some more. Side note, I meant to work in a Silent Clearing or two for card advantage.
"You should probably have more early game resource denial, lower your mana curve, and have more pieces that break symmetry" section.
I like smallpox, but always feel like it would destroy the things I want to keep on board.
This started as a 4 of, but I started trimming it back since I did not have a lot of plains in the deck.
Probably worth adding as pw pressure and synergy piece.
I don't mind having 4 since I really want to draw it and can sac/replay the next if needed.
No real thoughts on this one. Gut feel is maybe 1-2 as a suppliment to bitterblossom.
"Your only early game disruption is Thoughtseize. This is definitely not enough." I think this is a pretty fair point to make and the one thing I was certainly feeling poor about posting this build. I will probably work some of those suggestions in somewhere.
Sideboard stuff, I'll consider after I get a decent main deck and feel for what I might need from there.
2 weeks ago
cabal_patriarch I was going to go a bit in depth of why your suggestions don't really fit in this deck, but zapyourtumor gave you a really good answer, basically all your suggestions dilute too much the plan of the deck. I would only ad that I don't like multiple legendaries in a deck, that's why Shalai, Voice of Plenty is a x3. She used to be 2x but since is ability makes her the only possible objective she doesn't tend to stay around for long. Also combos with Giver of Runes making a nice look that essentially makes all my stuff untouchable. Plus she can be used as short of a counter spell with vial, which can be really handy even if you already have 1 in play and you have to sack it. Plus we want as many angel creatures in the deck as possible to trigger all our stuff.
I haven't tried Vault of the Archangel but I don't feel that it would make the cut. Not because of the card itself but because we can't afford more colorless lands because the Cavern of Souls are great, but all our creatures aren't angels plus the 4 instants... So essentially why have in a way already 8 colorless lands. I've tried Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and Field of Ruin and those showed me that I can not afford more colorless/conditional colorless mana. Also I may be wrong, I don know without trying, but I think that my creatures are relatively to big to have death touch be really relevant, and already gain me enough life to make the life gain redundant. Flavorwise is amazing though, xD.
2 weeks ago
I hadn't seen this spoiler before, absolutely 4 of easy, like you said a 3/3 that gives us GG devotion early, starts drawing us cards (a major shortcoming of this deck), and becomes a bit bigger with trample when our Castle Garenbrig s or Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx start to come online. This most likely just replaces Barkhide Troll , and probably knocks Avatar of the Resolute down to 3 since it doesn't trigger Avatar's pump ability the way Troll did. WotC giving this list some incredible love with this card.
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
I feel like Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx may be a good fit in this deck, to abuse the effect adding Blue Mana. And a question- why no Swan Song ? Counter a spell, make them a bird, steal that bird. Seems right on theme for this deck.