Wasteland

Wasteland

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: Gain .

, Sacrifice this: Destroy target nonbasic land.

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Premodern Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Wasteland Discussion

LandoLRodriguez on [Primer] The Windfall Crucible: A Gitrog Tale

1 week ago

Changes, 16 May 2022: -1 Dust Bowl, +1 Ziatora's Proving Ground. I have all the land destruction I need in Wasteland and Strip Mine. I don't think I used Dust Bowl's destruction ability once, as a matter of fact. Having the triome - able to be fetched with non-basic fetches, cycle, and produce all of our colors - is much better.

xtechnetia on Whats the "best" burn deck?

1 month ago

I think it's been firmly established that Boros burn is the best in a Modern context. The strengths of Helix and Charm are fairly self-explanatory. Not to mention, for burn, cards that don't do damage are pretty much last resort sideboard cards, and white handles that better than black with its famed suite of silver bullets and universal answers.

Bump is alright but it's generally weaker than either of Helix and Charm. Black's other offerings are not really of interest to burn - they're more for grindy decks that want to trade x-for-1, which is the opposite of burn's gameplay (literally throwing cards to the wind in order to eventually kill you).

Revelry is a nice card and I have seen Naya burn once or twice, but Smash to Smithereens covers half of the functionality without needing to splash, and enchantments that need to be destroyed by burn are a rare sight. Maybe if everyone was playing bogles or something (maindeck Leyline of Sanctity? yikes) burn would play Revelry, but then it's far more likely burn just wouldn't be played, lol.

Green's other offerings are just outdated. Red has a near monopoly on premier aggro creatures in Modern. Maybe at the inception of Modern something like Wild Nacatl was alright (?), but Theros brought Eidolon of the Great Revel, Tarkir brought Monastery Swiftspear, and if that wasn't enough burn would probably run MH2 critters before even thinking about splashing into green.

Blue being added to burn usually means something's horribly wrong in Modern (it was done in the Treasure Cruise and Oko eras, to give you an idea). Generally speaking, blue's offerings subtly shift burn into more of a prowess-style deck because cantrips are nearly useless to pure burn (that's mana you could have spent doing actual damage instead) and counterspells have the same issue as discard: it's mana and cards spent trading, when burn doesn't want to trade, just kill you before trading is relevant.

For non-Boros burn decks to be good, I think Modern needs to change in a noticeable way. For example, Legacy burn tends to be mono-R because of the presence of cards like Wasteland and Price of Progress, both of which are unlikely to ever enter Modern.

duchessCretina on 12 Rack Diesel

1 month ago

One of Legacy's most potent discard spells is Hymn to Tourach, that could be useful in the mainboard instead of the . Maybe even Tourach, Dread Cantor.

I think the all basics idea is nice, it makes you less vulnerable to Wasteland (and it's actually nice to see them on the other side doing absolutely nothing). But maybe a 1-2 Castle Locthwain wouldn't hurt (until you activate them LOL)

i think geth's verdict should be replaced with Sudden Edict. The split second ability makes a big difference.

i'm not a big fan of the enchantments :/ I'd rather have 4 liliana's and maybe even 1 Liliana, the Last Hope

azja on Yuriko (Optimized) Primer

1 month ago

Hey @Spirits, sorry for taking so long to get back to you! You asked such detailed questions, so I wanted to make sure I had time to write out detailed answers :D

Karn's Temporal Sundering vs Capture of Jingzhou:

Like you said, just a budget consideration. Yuriko is my pet deck so I don’t use any proxies, but I highly encourage it for others! While the bounce effect of Karn's Temporal Sundering is nice, I’m thinking of replacing it with Time Warp or just cutting it altogether for Treasure Cruise.

Enablers:

Since I don’t have any combos, I’m all in on the Yuriko damage plan. So having an enabler at all times is much more crucial for me, which is why I play 15 of them. Comparing my list to others, it seems 15 is on the higher end, so you could probably get away with cutting a couple. You’re correct about Tormented Soul, it can’t be pitched to Force of Will, as well as the mana base being more blue-heavy. As for the flying enablers, they’re included for redundancy (since there aren’t 15 unblockable 1-drops). It’s pretty rare for every opponent to have a flying/reach blocker, and we don’t really care who we attack, so flying does a pretty good impression of unblockable. Plus, many of them have relevant abilities, especially Faerie Seer’s scry 2 and Wingcrafter which can give Yuriko flying. If you’re mainly trying to win with combo, I wouldn’t play any of the 2 mana enablers except Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive. But don’t underestimate Augury Owl in the “winning with big spells” shell!

Kaito Shizuki

I haven’t tried him out yet, so I’m also unsure whether he makes the cut. Normally I wouldn’t consider playing a planeswalker, since we’re not very good at blocking to keep them around for longer than one turn. But with Kaito, we’re guaranteed 2 activations since he phases out eot, so I think he’s worth testing out for sure.

Win-Cons:

I think the wincons you described are all totally viable. Most of the cEDH Yuriko lists win with Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation or Tainted Pact since it’s only 2 cards and 3-4 mana (and tough to interact with outside of counterspells). Doomsday is significantly weaker than fish-consul, but its also a reasonable win-con. It’s convenient that cards that would go in the doomsday pile such as Gitaxian Probe and Street Wraith are already good cards for the deck anyway. When I first built this deck, I didn’t include doomsday for power level considerations. Now, I doubt doomsday would be too powerful for my playgroup to handle, but I decided to leave it out since I prefer to win with Yuriko’s ability.

Scheming Symmetry

Scheming symmetry is pretty much my budget replacement for Imperial Seal until we get a reprint. It’s true that you can do some cute plays with Nashi, Moon Sage's Scion or Fallen Shinobi. But most of the time, I save it until someone is below 16 life, choose them to tutor with me, put Draco on top of my library, and eliminate them before they can use the card they grabbed.

Mutavault

I’m a big fan of Mutavault since it allows me to rebuild a turn earlier after a boardwipe, or just to have an extra ninja that usually goes unnoticed by your opponents. Unfortunately, colourless lands are really, really awkward in this deck, so I wouldn’t play more than 1 or 2 at the most.

Drowned Catacomb, etc.

Since I’m currently playing 10 basics, I usually don’t have any problems with Drowned Catacomb and Sunken Hollow entering tapped. As for Mystic Sanctuary, it definitely sucks when you draw it and have to play it as a tapped island. But, imo it makes up for it in the late game when you can grab it with a fetch land and put an expensive spell on top of your library in response to a Yuriko trigger. If you’re including Tainted Pact, or just playing less basics in general, I would definitely cut those lands for City of Brass or River of Tears, like you mentioned.

Colourless Mana

I touched on this a bit in the Mutavault discussion, but you definitely want to stay away from colourless lands as much as possible. Although Ancient Tomb and Gemstone Caverns are really powerful lands in a vacuum, the early mana they provide isn’t worth it imo. I definitely agree with you that Reliquary Tower is a trap. I wouldn’t play it in very many decks in general, especially not in Yuriko. As for Glacial Chasm and Maze of Ith, they aren’t played enough in my playgroup for me to need an answer for them. But if they did become more popular, my plan would likely be to cut Mutavault and include Strip Mine/Wasteland instead.

I hope everything I explained made sense and was helpful to ya! Don’t hesitate to ask me more questions!

EVEN-ELITE on How many days until CMDRBAN?!

3 months ago

Strip Mine and/or Wasteland? I don't know if that would upset the balance between color-producing and colorless lands in your deck, but a little aggression in the land destruction department wouldn't be bad, I imagine.

MLS91 on Crippling Fear

4 months ago

Update:

Cuts are as follows

Minus:

Wasteland why: Im running Strip Mine and crucible in black still only means one land so I only need one instance of this interaction

K'rrik, Son of Ywagmoth why: better ways to "accelerate" that also aren't so lethal, also I have included better instances of smoothing the mana base in that this card in no longer relevant

Whip of Erebos why: slow, often removed, underwhelming

Gate to Phyrexia why: never saw use, took up space in hands to ofter or when on field saw little use

Culling the Weak why: see k'rrik

Hellish Rebuke why: underwhelming and generates little value

Addtions:

Jet Medallion why: Mana Acceleration

Moonsilver Key Why: Curve Smoothing

Innocent Blood Why: Efficient Removal

Myriad Landscape why: Curve Smoothing

Henrika Domnathi  Flip Why: great interaction with the deck as well as controls board well, offers an alternative to Wrankle or another instance of similar effects

Dying to Serve Why: token generator that works well with Opposition and other global discard effects

Future Thoughts:

I'm looking to cut the Op Agent and Maralen Combo, i'm considering the Geth's Grimoire + Words of Waste combo in place of it. still looking for some instances of mana smoothing in black Burnished Hart comes to mind. Any other suggestions are welcome.

macdeath on Vintage PO

5 months ago

-1 Underground Sea is asking for trouble to cast the key black cards. This type of deck can struggle against Wasteland + Null Rod decks, relying on Mox Opal and 1 Underground Sea is not where you want to be.

-Thassa's Oracle does not belong in the deck whatsoever and neither does Noxious Revival. You are already packing Tendrils of Agony and Time Vault which are much more suited to the deck. Noxious Revival is just worse than Snapcaster Mage especially in a deck with Paradoxical Outcome

-Seat of the Synod is usually only played to make Thoughtcast / Thought Monitor viable. It makes the deck super soft to Null Rod effects.

-Urza, Lord High Artificier is okayish but worse than Monastery Mentor or Tinker>Sphinx of the Steel Wind. Also, Urza's Bauble is pretty bad in Vintage.

Omniscience_is_life on Historic D&T

6 months ago

Hey there, nice to see another Historic D&Ter around the block!

A few suggestions:

Strict Proctor seems like a distinct non-bo with many of your main value pieces, I would strongly recommend SBing it for matchups when you really need it.

On the topic of Side Boards--you should consider one! Rest in Peace, a couple more Containment Priest for the CoCo matches you talked about, and the Proctors that really don't feel like they should be Main Board could be a very solid SB.

I see the combo between Crucible and the pseudo-Wastelands you have, but that's a pretty divergent strategy, something only a more established format like Vintage and Legacy could pull off. As it stands, Historic isn't a strong enough format to support an separate package like this LD one.

I can't imagine that Emeria's Call  Flip gets played that often as a spell, so putting it on the list of finishers appears disingenuous. I would recommend a Maul of the Skyclaves as a much faster clock (starting T3 instead of T7), although you may need to cut a Reidane or something since Emeria is still a land.

Love what you're doing here overall, though! Keep it up :3

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