Cabal Coffers

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Premodern Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Cabal Coffers

Land

, : Add for each Swamp you control.

Xalor90 on Life’s Killed Me a Hundred Thousand Times

3 weeks ago

BioProfDude thanks for the suggestions! I had considered Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, as I use it in conjunction with Cabal Coffers in my Modern decks, but with that combo out I wasn’t sure if it would be worth it, since most of my lands are swamps anyways. Ironically, that includes the Witch's Cottage, which is already a swamp.

Mutavault is great idea, and would give me more of a reason to include Urborg, as well.

Mortlocke on The Queen's Egg

1 month ago

Hello Votecat, thanks for commenting on my page. Just as a side note, you can tag the cards you reference by using:

[[card:Sliver Overlord]]

I have thoughts on every card suggestion you made, and i'll address them individually. Root Sliver is on permanent standby for me. Depending on the nature of my meta (Rather, when I actually get one - RL has its challenges) i'd find a way to work it in, but I'm uncertain on what i'd cut - what would you cut from my list to make room? Rhythm of the Wild is a great card, however it's unnecessary as Slivers do all of the things this Enchantment can do - but better. Why be confined by Riot? Having to choose Haste or a +1/+1 counter? Besides, dedicating so many resources to countering one form of interaction is just unnecessary with the inclusion of Cavern of Souls and the potential inclusion of Root Sliver.

Intruder Alarm I have my own issues with - namely that it's a dead card in hand until you have all the combo pieces on board to fully take advantage of it before an opponent does. The effect can very easily backfire - and has backfired on me personally - and has forever soured my take on the card. Also, keep in mind if you are ever in a mirror match, there is always a chance the opponent can out maneuver you with the exact same pieces. This simply makes me miss Paradox Engine that much more. The printing of Urza, Lord High Artificer made the banning of Paradox Engine essential if players were going to use him - so I forever hate on Urza, who personally ruined my fun with one of my favorite cards.

The comparison of Dregscape Sliver and Yawgmoth's Will is like a 9MM vs. a Nuclear Bomb. YawgWill is leagues beyond the potential of what Dregscape has to offer - you can play a land, any spell that isn't a Sliver, oh and a Sliver, until the end of turn out of your graveyard. The best part is that said Sliver doesn't get exiled at the end of turn. There is a very good reason why this card is on the reserved list. I'm not going to be swapping out YawgWill anytime soon.

Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth are both good cards - within context. Urborg is kind of meh outside of a monoblack or 2 color deck that also utilizes Cabal Coffers - and doesn't have access to Green. Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth on the otherhand is uh...meh? Slivers aren't a Lands matter deck and there aren't any Slivers that gain +X/+X for each Forest I control - though that would be sweet. Honestly, these lands would do more harm than good as fixing the manabases of my opponents is something I generally want to avoid.

Ashnod's Altar is not the most optimal choice unless the commander is Sliver Queen herself. Without the other combo pieces on board, Altar just kind of sits there as an optional sac outlet that could potentially ramp you - but to take full advantage you would absolutely need Quick Sliver on board. Again, it's a good card for Sliver Queen the commander, but in a Sliver Tribal deck i'm just not convinced.

Crowd Lands - first time i've heard Bondlands being referred to as that. Cool. I don't always play this deck in a pod so having lands that always come in tapped is simply not ideal. I lean more toward the Shadowmoor/Eventide Filterlands e.g. Flooded Grove, Cascade Bluffs, etc. if I were to swap out my Revised Dual Lands.

Thanks for commenting by the way, please leave a +1 if you like as I will be doing the same on your deckpage.

chitinous approval ensues

Delphen7 on Manabase: Urzatron and Filter Lands …

1 month ago

As wallisface said I think the Tron package is the more efficient of the two. I feel Lotus Field takes too much support to properly set up, and at that point Lotus Combo becomes better.

Coming to Caerwyn objection to negative lands usage, what if you tried the lands that tap for any color, instead of the filter lands? (ie City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Gemstone Mine). You save on that few manas while still having access to every color.


My personal thoughts for a deck with big mana and access to all colors is Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth with fetches. This would give you all the colors naturally (Godless Shrine, Overgrown Tomb, Blood Crypt, Watery Grave), while thinning your deck due to fetches, AND you have all the colors in a feasible way. Triomes give you access to even more colors.

DadHumanPraetor on Simping for Emo Girls

1 month ago

I finally cut Grave Titan because it was just so clunky. I also cut Panharmonicon because when my commander isn't out it does nothing, and if she is out and I get to go off, I probably would have won without it. It just feels unnecessary so I put in an Expedition Map to help find Cabal Coffers or Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

DuneEcho on Ascendant Evincar '02 (ONS)

1 month ago

Dust Bowl is definitely a possibility. But lately I've been viewing Strip Mine and Wasteland as potential liabilities for mono-black Old School Commander trying to run Cabal Coffers. Also, my playgroup recently discussed it and we can't recall a single time recently we've played Dust Bowl/Strip Mine/Wasteland and actually used their land destruction functionality.

On first blush, I think I dismissed Gravestorm too much. Going to put it in the maybe pile for sure.

Corpse Dance is definitely a bomb, but would prefer more sacrifice effects to really maximize it. I did not feel like it was truly supported in this particular incarnation.

estoner on I solved mana screw and …

2 months ago

I heard of that variant as well. They had the right idea, but didn't realize that when they remove the variance of drawing spells versus lands, that variance has to be relocated somewhere else to prevent breaking the game. Adding colorless lands to randomly "brick" your manabase achieves this, and Wastes are not only perfect because they lack basic land types and don't affect domain, they're already a part of the game.

From a lore standpoint, why are lands in your "library" to begin with? And conceptually, a player should have to build up from Wastes to something like a Tropical Island or a Cabal Coffers. It means that the texture of the game changes as you progress to later and later turns instead of just watching the numbers increase. And it's not as though you have NO colored mana: you still have your original 24 lands, just mixed in with a number of colorless sources.

Even to a newcomer, the concept of starting with Wastes, ramping during the game, and ultimately achieving a board state of a bunch of Forest, Lair of the Hydra, and a Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx makes sense and is thematically resonant.

People are misunderstanding the handicap system. In a game like Go or Golf, you're never FORCED to let the other player have a handicap. It's just an optional rule to let players who are in different leagues still enjoy the game. The idea of manabase dilution ENABLES a handicap, but you are never required to give one to either yourself or your opponent.

Also, in my personal opinion, Thoracle should be banned in all formats and Gidgetimer is a WOTC employee

BishopAtavist on Abzan Graveyard Recursion Help

2 months ago

Gidgetimer that is a fair question about Crop Rotation. At this point, it's there more for future upgrades. I was possibly going to pop a Cabal Coffers in the deck, since with Dryad of the Ilysian Grove on the field, every land would be a swamp. Now I would essentially just use it to swap a basic land for a dual or tri-land. Not it's highest function, but not the worst thing.

bushido_man96 I actually find that Ramunap Excavator works really well when I'm Dredging cards into the graveyard and skipping a draw step. Pretty much guarantees I don't miss a land drop, which is pretty critical when I'm trying to cast my commander for 7 (mutating). If Fauna Shaman is in my opening hand, the first card I grab is Golgari Grave-Troll then Ramunap, then Dryad. Ramunap and dryad let me pull 2 cards from the graveyard per turn, and the Grave troll's Dredge ability statistically puts just over 2 land cards in there each turn.

World Shaper is a backup to getting lands back from my graveyard, and he also fills the graveyard by milling three each time he attacks. I don't think that is at cross purposes with my goal. Zuran Orb I can see getting cut if I end up cutting Sanguine Bond. It isn't in my paper deck yet, but I thought Zuran Orb, World Shaper, and Sanguine Bond could make a pretty funny combo.

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