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DPhoenix on Dina, Soul Steeper
1 week ago
Very interesting deck, I will make some suggestions later because I have some questions.
You are a bit light on reanimation and I’m hesitant to use the dredge cards because of it. I understand that it was previously a Meren deck and I can see why with her, but with Dina… How often do you find yourself with combo pieces on the graveyard?
Whats your usual game plan?
How has Cabal Coffers performed for you?
legendofa on infinite rats
1 week ago
I would say the interaction between Urborg TOY and Cabal Coffers is enough reason to keep it. Same thing with Witch's Cottage. It does have some good functions in here, so I think it belongs in the deck.
Orange+ on Horobi and the Wailers
2 weeks ago
Thanks for the comment :)
I dont have any immediate ideas for a 150$ build, but I guess you could consider adding some black staples. There are also some pretty decent death trigger cards that I dont play. There is probably much more interesting ways to add to the deck than introducing more staples (and making the deck much more similar to everyone elses), but finding good original cards is a harder process :)
Death trigger cards: Grave Betrayal, Massacre Wurm, and Revel in Riches.
Black staples: Cabal Coffers, Crypt Ghast, Cabal Stronghold, Vilis, Broker of Blood, Lightning Greaves, Skullclamp, Reanimate, Exhume, Dance of the Dead, Animate Dead, Necromancy, Grim Tutor, Bloodchief Ascension and Phyrexian Arena.
Best of luck!
shock7123 on Blessings of Blood and Feathers
1 month ago
You have a solid deck concept, but I have a couple options you might consider throwing in at some point:
Cut Thran Dynamo and toss in a Land Tax. Colored mana means more than colorless mana in the long run. Land Tax also has the added benefit of letting you get lands out of your deck, making it harder to miss land drops, and is a solid tutor target early on.
Weathered Wayfarer and Deep Gnome Terramancer are excellent adds that let you try to keep up with your opponents, especially if you have a green player at the table that's ramping out of control.
I know some people don't like cheap "you win the game" cards, but lifegain goes well with things like Aetherflux Reservoir and Felidar Sovereign. You still have to work to meet the win condition of Sovereign, since most players will be focusing on trying to keep your life total down.
Smothering Tithe is a card I personally refuse to run, since I don't like asking people if they want to pay for me not to get a treasure constantly, but it is another solid early-game engine that can help you keep up with your opponents.
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth pairs really well with Cabal Coffers and allows you to dump a ton of black mana into your mana pool at a time.
Making your wipes one-sided with things like Eerie Interlude and Rootborn Defenses can be incredibly helpful. You may be able to rebuild quickly, but there's no need to rebuild when you can just not have your creatures destroyed in the first place. Alternately, if you don't want to pay ridiculous levels of commander tax, a Command Beacon can help in a pinch.
Other extort effects like Crypt Ghast can really stack up quickly if you have multiple of them out at a time. Gaining 3 life every time you cast a spell works wonders, especially when your opponents are each losing one.
DreadKhan on The Quackening
2 months ago
I have a Quest for Ula's Temple deck which does some similar things, I liked Dreamscape Artist because it can reshuffle your library as needed, incase you don't have a relevant creature to work with on top. It's technically only 1 mana and a card to Harrow (you get back 2 untapped lands, so it can also helping mana fixing) Blue, and I could be wrong but I think your Commander wants the odd Discard outlet too. A worse (but still potentially useful) piece of Blue ramp is Apprentice Wizard, it's not as good as Dreamscape, it's like Worn Powerstone, which is a good rock if you want bigger ramp to potentially cast a big creature a bit sooner. Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus are big ramp rocks with decent ratios. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Cabal Coffers are pretty good together, if you have a lot of devotion to a colour Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx can help, Deserted Temple can untap any land that makes extra mana. Less rampy and more of a big Scry effect, Soothsaying is a neat card if you care about your deck order. Scroll Rack is better but costs more.
Just a general idea, you might throw in things like Reconnaissance Mission, Bident of Thassa, and Coastal Piracy along with some Unblockable or Shadow creatures (Thalakos and Dauthi are the Blue and Black tribes). You can also throw in stuff like Sword of the Animist, Dowsing Dagger Flip, Prying Blade, Goldvein Pick, Grim Hireling, and any other attack payoffs you can find to generate more value over time. I understand you want a sea-monster theme, but you might want a way to draw some cards/get in some chip damage to soften people up. The only drawback to Shadows is that they can't chump block. If you really want your evasive creatures to be able to chump, there are some small flyers like Spectral Sailor and Thousand-Faced Shadow that have other upsides, these are risk free but are way less evasive than Shadows.
On that note, if you're worried about getting attacked you might look at Propaganda, War Tax, Flood, and Fatespinner are all great ways to make you hard to attack. Mass Diminish, Polymorphist's Jest, Sudden Spoiling, AEtherize, Aetherspouts are all great cards for people to fear.
Callous Oppressor is a funny repeatable theft effect, Ritual of the Machine and Helm of Possession can both steal stuff and are great with tokens, Thieving Skydiver can steal an artifact creature fwiw, Sower of Temptation is a so-so theft effect that shines bright if you can flicker or bounce it, Thalakos Deceiver is probably way better since he permanently steals whatever and can be reanimated, Inevitable Betrayal and Bribery are both pretty sweet.
The biggest (and perhaps best) theft effects are Mass Manipulation and Cultural Exchange, exchange requires bodies but can also be used aggressively to just ruin two players' boards.
Inkwell Leviathan, Lochmere Serpent, Spawning Kraken, Stormtide Leviathan, and Wrexial, the Risen Deep are some relevant creatures I use, some are better than others but there is nothing as bad as Sea Serpent or Bog Serpent, both cards I love but don't use.
If you like Whelming Wave, you might like Spectral Deluge as well.
Hope some of this helps, Big Dimir is a fun deck!
ToxicMCTV on Good Vibrations
2 months ago
Maybe an Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth to pump up Cabal Coffers to itself?
amarthaler on EDH Skithiryx, the Blighted Dragon
2 months ago
Out: Cabal Coffers
DreadKhan on Phylactery lich: a Rule 0 …
3 months ago
Hope I'm not getting to carried away with this brainstorming, but here's what I thought up.
You could also use Nesting Grounds if you like the idea of putting your Phylactery Counter somewhere safer, but an Indestructible artifact is already pretty durable, and there are many of those kicking around.
If you end up using Proliferate for counters, you could look at Subterranean Hangar, it's a good 'land', but you almost want to run extra lands with it, it plays like a ramp source rather than a true land. Bottomless Vault also exists, but this is a much harder to use card that isn't as budget friendly. Both are good with Proliferate effects or big splashy effects, I gather you don't like Hailfire or Exsanguinate, but what about weirder stuff like one of the many big mana Wipe Plus cards that Black gets, stuff like Decree of Pain or Necromantic Selection, I think you can find others like Phyrexian Scriptures or even Damnation because it'll miss your Commander.
I feel Pestilence might be amazing, it's much better if you can give it Lifelink or Deathtouch, usually via a Counter that Nesting Grounds moved (Boot Nipper, Scavenged Brawler, Unbreakable Bond, Unexpected Fangs, Call of the Death-Dweller, Evolved Sleeper, or Void Beckoner, some of those seem solid actually), but even without either it's a great effect to clear out weenies, and your Commander keeps it around pretty consistently. Also very good with Pestilence is Exquisite Blood (paying B to gain 2 life and make 3 opponents each lose 1 sounds very playable), which combos with Sanguine Bond if you want a combo that has independently useful pieces. Blood and Pestilence and your Commander would be nuts with Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, and I love how all of that is just stuff that you want to be doing anyway. Hangar and Vault are also useful with Pestilence.
I suspect you might want to look at some free sacrifice outlets to use incase your Commander is going to be stolen or hit by an Out of Time type effect in the event that you build around them more. Black has great outlets in addition to access to Altars. There is also Command Beacon to get Phylacter Lich back if people steal it.
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