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Creature — Wolf
2 months ago
hi! i like budget decks that suddenly are good, you can try Carrion Feeder for more sac outlet and something hitting hard, Nest Invader,Young Wolf and Carrier Thrall are faster to sacrifice than the skeleton and de 5 mana creature and if you can find Bloodghast in the future that would be good, i dont know how expensive they are right now, good luck!!
2 months ago
The Bond Beetle was to sub in for the Young Wolf if I need to also put in Grafdigger's Cage. I'll see what I can do, or maybe I just won't use Grafdigger's ... it seems a little problematic with the deck atm. Not sure, lol.
2 months ago
Small tweak, but I'd include 4x of both Experiment One and Pelt Collector and only 2x Young Wolf, unless there is another card you like better there - maybe an extra Rancor and another Barkhide Troll, for instance.
2 months ago
Thank you so much for the speedy reply!
I did pull Narnam Renegade's for some Young Wolf already in my list, simply because I had Young Wolf already, so now I feel better about trading in the fetch lands for some forests. That was good tech that I didn't even see, lol. I do have some fetch lands I was planning on possibly adding to thin the deck if I felt I needed it, but now I'll consider Narnam more seriously for his ability than I did before and think about it all together.
To replace some of the land, I'm thinking of 2x Llanowar Reborn, 1x Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, 1x Pendelhaven since I had them. Right now I'm unsure, because some come into play untapped and feels slow for this deck, but I see your recommendations also have some that come in tapped.
Thanks for the ideas on the sideboard!
I'll take all of that into consideration as I tinker with the deck. I hope you don't mind, I listed my own version here but linked back to you and this deck for credit, so I hope more people find yours. =) Woodland's Wrath
2 months ago
Slash (love the name btw)
I appreciate the kind words. The fetch lands are there to make sure I get a trigger on the Narnam Renegade and to thin out the deck a little so that any draws I get from Werewolf Pack Leader get the most bang for their buck. You could probably go with straight forests to save some cash, but if you do I'd probably pull the Renegades for +1 Experiment One, +1 Pelt Collector and 2x Young Wolf. Going with more basic lands will protect you a bit from cards like Blood Moon and Magus of the Moon as well.
As far as some other budget options, Boseiju, Who Endures is also a very expensive, fairly new card. It's a very strong addition for what it does but is in no way necessary for the deck to operate. That could easily be a Forest as well. If you go all Forests, consider adding in a couple of Treetop Village or Lair of the Hydra and maybe a Dryad Arbor.
Sideboards are largely a product of your local meta and the one I have listed is just a handful of quality generic options. Prowling Serpopard, Scavenging Ooze, Beast Within, Damping Sphere and Grafdigger's Cage are just a few budget options out there, depending on what you're trying to stop.
2 months ago
demonicgrizzly I have, with pretty good success thus far. I was running a different version of mono-green before, with Hierarchs and a very heavy 3 CMC creature presence - lots of big threats like Yorvo, Rhonas, Old-Growth Troll, Augur of autumn, etc. It rolled in big threats, had a great card draw engine... and just didn't seem to work. My Hierarchs inevitably got bolted, darted, pushed or whatever and that slowed me down for the first two rounds, letting my opponent get his own gameplan going. This version has proven to be a much more consistent threat with fewer instances of stumbling out of the gate. Still tweaking it at the moment but pretty happy thus far.
The main thing I'm considering is whether I should drop the set of Narnam Renegade and the fetch lands and instead pull in a 2-3 Boseiju, Who Endures, another Lair of the Hydra and find a different 1 CMC creature, maybe Young Wolf?
8 months ago
To address your general speed problem, you are running 33 lands and 6 ramp with an average CMC of 3.57. This is entirely too mana light in my opinion. In my Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons deck I also run 33 lands, but have 11 ramp and an average CMC of 3.10. The ramp that I run that isn't in here is: Birds of Paradise, Devoted Druid, Llanowar Elves, Golgari Signet, Three Visits, Nature's Lore, and Wild Growth. Farseek always puts the land in tapped, so I run Three Visits and Nature's Lore over it since they grab the same duals. I'm not sure why I don't have STE in my list, though it runs well enough that I am not looking for more ramp. Since your average CMC is higher you may want to go with 13 ramp and just keep the ones you have and add all 5 of the additions.
To help with having sac fodder you are going to want creatures that recur themselves. You already have Reassembling Skeleton, but undying and persist would also let you recycle creatures for multiple activations. Puppeteer Clique, Rendclaw Trow, Woodfall Primus, Young Wolf, Strangleroot Geist, Geralf's Messenger, and Butcher Ghoul are all fine includes in a deck that wants to kill off it's own creatures in some way. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed will also grant all of your non-human creatures undying.
Burst card draw can be achieved with the black cards for life sorceries (Night's Whisper, Sign in Blood, Read the Bones, Ancient Craving). You can sustain card draw with Smothering Abomination, Phyrexian Arena, Skullclamp and Necropotence.
The following topics will help improve the deck in terms of pure strength, but may not be how you or your playgroup is wanting to play magic. Everyone's idea of fun is different, so I am going to include the suggestions in case they are something that both you and your group find acceptable.
Above some cards were mentioned that have the possibility to combo with cards already in the deck or with each other. Each card however is good in its own right and does not have to be used in the combos. If you are willing to go combo with the deck I will further explain these and also add some other cards specifically for the purpose of combos.
Yawgmoth and two undying creatures create a loop where you sacrifice the undying creatures in order to put -1/-1 counters on each other. It costs a life per iteration, but would give you the death triggers for your commander and for Gutter Grime. Adding in Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat, or other similar effects gains you the life back and turns the loop into a win condition.
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and any of the persist creatures allow for infinite sacrifice loops as the creature will come back with alternating +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters. Walking Ballista and Triskelion combo with Mikaeus and allow for infinite damage loops, in the case of Ballista you need a sacrifice outlet though. Things that enter with -1/-1 counters or that allow you to remove their +1/+1 counters for other reasons will also have similar interactions without the infinite damage.
With Devoted Druid you can add in Quillspike for shenanigans with infinite power Quillspike via tapping for green, untapping by putting a -1/-1 counter, adding power by paying green and removing the -1/-1 counter. This can be done with necrotic ooze as a 1-card combo if both pieces are in your graveyard. You can also get infinite death triggers by repeatedly killing Devoted Druid with Mikaeus out by activating the untap ability when she is not tapped.
Instead of card number advantage from drawing you could get card quality advantage from tutoring. In Golgari you have access to the best creature tutors and the best all around tutors available. Eldritch Evolution, Green Sun's Zenith, Worldly Tutor, and Finale of Devastation for creatures. Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, and Grim Tutor for all around.
1 year ago
Unfortunately, she's not great as a value commander/casual commander - she'll always be KOS. Randoms and seasoned players both know that if you get the untap you threaten to win.
However, you could have the good ol' rule zero talk and be like "hey I'm not on the instant win plan - I'm playing things like Young Wolf and Strangleroot Geist then plan to curve into a Craterhoof Behemoth and turn sideways.