Vivid Creek enters the battlefield tapped with two charge counters on it.
: Gain .
, Remove a charge counter from Vivid Creek: Gain one mana of any colour.
|Want (4)||shpadoinkle , effin530 , Brianne , Aurit|
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|Commander 2017 (C17)||Uncommon|
|Planechase Anthology (PCA)||None|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Uncommon|
|Modern Masters (MMA)||Uncommon|
|Planechase 2012 Edition (PC2)||Uncommon|
|MTG: Commander (CMD)||Uncommon|
|Premium Deck Series: Slivers (PDS)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Vivid Creek Discussion
2 weeks ago
TriusMalarky Awesome, thanks for thinking along! I like these nitty-gritty disussions.
Re: tapped lands suck
First off: My current tapped-count is at 6 (wilds, terramorphic, necro, path, vivid x 2) - I guess you could count 2 tango and 2 checklands for 0.5 tapland each, bringing our total to 8. With 37 lands I actually think the odds are pretty decent that I can run T1 tapland, T2 untapped land, enabling my 2cmc ramp spells and going from there. I'm therefore not sure this is all too bad, but a bit more in depth:
The idea behind Vivid Creek and Vivid Marsh is that they're lands that function as 3c lands most of the time (especially during set-up), and with proliferation going all of the time. It's also possible to use them without removing counters if you're using them on ramp for example, so it's not like they always deplete. I agree the tapped clause is a real cost for something that's not guaranteed, and I could be convinced they're not as great as I think they are, but I think they'd do OK.
I agree Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse aren't the best. I have thought about replacing these with tapped duals, but those don't help out my tango / check lands. It's very possible regular basics are better here though.
Awesome suggestion. They're more powerful than the vivid cycle for sure and, don't get me wrong, providing 2 mana as a land is amazing but:
they're not basics
they come into play tapped
they don't fix my mana
they end up literal dead really quickly if i don't find a proliferation piece (not having played the deck, this concerns me the most)
I'm tempted to try them because when it works it's amazing, but I don't think they're a slam dunk except for when you're in magical christmas land. I need to think about the times when the deck's not firing on all cilinders more than when everything's already going great (i.e. i have time to proliferate). If it turns out that i easily proliferate all the time i'll add them asap.
Re: Ramp and artifacts
This gets me to 4 signets, 3 talismans, chalice, prism, sol ring, that's 10 ramp < 3cmc. Adding cornucopia and relic gives me 12 which should get me one in hand roughly 60% of the time (almost 90% if you count the free mulligan as 7 extra looks) - which is great. Looking at my curve most of my business happens at 4cmc, so getting there asap is key.
Hard disagree on Throne of Geth. Have you played with this card? (I haven't.) It seems I'll have some (maybe even a lot of) spare artifacts lying around, which makes this repeated, instant speed proliferation. Absolute worst-case you can sac it to itself. I'd even argue this is very efficient (and cheap), even though the resource cost for using it is different. It seems like a great thing to copy with something like Saheeli, Sublime Artificer too.
Lithoform Engine may be inefficient, but doubling proliferate triggers or god-forbid planeswalker ultimates is simply too spicy not to run. You could be right but if this isn't the home for this card I'd like to find out.
I have to agree on Solemn Simulacrum - it's too expensive for the deck and doesn't really do much other than provide generic value. I think I'll cut this for another walker, maybe I'll try Jace, Cunning Castaway for the memes.
Thanks again for you time, I look forward to your reply
1 month ago
Post reland slivo fetch and shock
Primordial Hydra > Farseek
Reyhan, Last of the Abzan > Nature's Lore
Arcane Sanctum > Arid Mesa
Darkwater Catacombs > Bloodstained Mire
Opulent Palace > Breeding Pool
Sandsteppe Citadel > Flooded Strand
Skycloud Expanse > Godless Shrine
Sungrass Prairie > Marsh Flats
Vivid Creek > Overgrown Tomb
Vivid Grove > Temple Garden
Vivid Marsh > Watery Grave
Vivid Meadow > Windswept Heath
3 months ago
Since you're just playing with friends, you get the leeway of not needing to spend tons of money acquiring decent cards. That means that, overall, you can get a lot more bang for your buck.
I'll be giving you my personal preferences for a casual player who may or may not ever get into slightly more competitive play, AKA FNM.
- 1) There are bulk boxes available for $15-20 of a thousand or two assorted cards. Keep in mind a lot of the cards might not be legal in Modern, but they do tend to be acquired from mostly newer sets(from the two I bought, ~70% of the contents were standard legal at the time of purchase). I recommend one of those to just about everyone who's getting into the game. They might not end up giving you tons of great value, but it's solid card fodder to help you learn and explore more archetypes and strategies.
I also recommend picking up cheap staples by the playset. The following are a bunch of cards you can probably get for $2 or less apiece, in many cases for the whole 4 copies.
Evolving Wilds, but depending on how many multicolored decks you make, you should get quite a lot. Great in casual settings.
That's mostly just a pile of suggestions, though. The lands will be absolutely necessary for any multicolor deck you build, although wait a month or three to get the Thriving lands because those currently have an immensely low supply and will be reprinted shortly.
3 months ago
4 months ago
mn6334 they aren't a bad idea. You could use them, especially if you are looking for budget friendly options to fix your mana. However, when you compare them to cards like Exotic Orchard, Tarnished Citadel, and City of Brass they are not as good. I think I would rather run the esper vivid lands, like Vivid Creek.
6 months ago
Looking good! It's hard to screw up Muldrotha. Just go to value town. Your selection of creatures seems great!
That said, I would include a little more ramp. You are at eightish, which is where one usually wants to be in an EDH deck, but Muldrotha is usually kill-on-sight and 6 CMC. Try to use more things that permanently get a land into the field, which you already have a good amount of, like Cultivate and Kodama's Reach. Also, Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf, and Wayfarer's Bauble can be brought back for value--making them particularly good. Elvish Reclaimer is an interesting choice too.
The one-CMC dorks (Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic, Boreal Druid, Arbor Elf, Wild Growth (and to a lesser extent Birds of Paradise and Utopia Sprawl) are all extremely good generally for their speed and chumping ability. If they get whacked or boardwiped they can slowly be brought back later. Getting Muldrotha out as soon as possible is very worth it. I don't run many mana dorks in my Muldrotha deck. I would run as few artifact rampers as possible, since you don't have to (as you run Green). Lands are always safest. Commander's Sphere being brought back for the card draw is nice--probably better than the Darksteel Ingot.
Good job on including Evolving Wilds. I would also add Terramorphic Expanse and maybe Myriad Landscape, Warped Landscape, and Blighted Woodland. The Mirage fetches (Bad River, et al) are decent but better with fetchable lands that have two colors--like Sunken Hollow and Watery Grave. Be sure to include Opulent Palace. Exotic Orchard, Grand Coliseum, and Command Tower are worth including too. On a budget, Vivid Marsh, Vivid Creek, and Vivid Grove are all good too. That all said, I still like running a healthy amount of Basic Lands for repeated fetching.
Protecting Muldrotha is important. Kaya's Ghostform is an excellent choice. I would also include a combination of Aspect of Mongoose, Canopy Cover, Alpha Authority, Diplomatic Immunity, Alexi's Cloak, Cloudform, Mystic Veil, Robe of Mirrors, Mirror Shield, Whispersilk Cloak, Neurok Stealthsuit, Mask of Avacyn, and Swiftfoot Boots. Usually the Enchantment Auras are considered weak because they can be two-for-one'd, but Muldrotha can bring them right back!
Personally, I believe every single EDH deck should run at least two boardwipes, and more if you can find the room. Sometimes it's just an emergency. On a budget in Sultai colors I like Crux of Fate and Gaze of Granite the most, followed by In Garruk's Wake (should have the mana!), Deadly Tempest, Decree of Pain, Extinction Event, Hex, Nevinyrral's Disk, Oblivion Stone, Killing Wave, Hythonia the Cruel, Life's Finale, Massacre Girl, Necromantic Selection, and Black Sun's Zenith. Pernicious Deed is great too.
Not everyone likes doing this, but I love running Enchantment-based removal in Muldrotha since it can be reused. Many have strong effects but still aren't worth it since they can be removed but Muldrotha gets rid of that drawback! Things like Corrupted Conscience, Inevitable End, Kasmina's Transmutation, Ichthyomorphosis, Lignify, and Lay Claim. I've actually had good luck with things an innocuous as Universal Solvent.
6 months ago
I would work on the mana base if I was you.
Sulfur Falls, Steam Vents, Command Tower, Shivan Reef, Temple of Epiphany, Fiery Islet, Vivid Crag, and Vivid Creek are all improvements over Rupture Spire, albeit more expensive. I’d opt to run a basic land over rupture spire if it came to it though. I realize the color heavy nature of Niv, but having to tap another land to have it make the color you want is still slowing you down, never mind the fact it still requires you to sac it if you don’t pay mana for it as it comes in...tapped I might add...
lonesentinel Lutri is banned in the format, which includes as a commander, but if your/their playgroup doesn’t care then that’s all good.
One more thing, your description says because the Master Wizard is legendary they leave at end of turn, but they actually leave immediately as a state-based action (legend rule.) You get the same result but no chance to use the token for anything but it’s etb ltb triggers.
Anacksunamoon on My1
8 months ago