Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
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Oboro, Palace in the Clouds Discussion
1 month ago
This is kinda a stretch but what about that counterspell that returns a land to the hand to trigger landfall from the mill crabs? Hedron Crab/Ruin Crab with Deprive? Maybe Oboro, Palace in the Clouds?
4 months ago
Why the maindeck leyline? If your meta isn't 80% burn and belcher I'd cut it.
Similarly, you're trying to do too much with the vampire stuff. It just doesn't fit, so I'd cut both vampires, and the Elixir which doesn't really do anything here and also is a nonbo with Snapcaster Mage.
Another major problem is 16 lands. Even burn runs more than 16, thats just insane. You will be manascrewed every game. I assume budget isn't a problem if you're running Snappy, so I'd go look at some esper mill manabases online and draw inspiration from those. Notably, you should be running a lot more fetches and shocks and no Arcane Sanctum, Sejiri Refuge, Orzhov Guildgate etc.
The 8 crabs Hedron Crab + Ruin Crab are some of the best mill cards in the game, since they only cost 1 mana, can block creatures, and usually mill 12 or more cards each with fetchlands. Add in 1 Oboro, Palace in the Clouds and you'll be triggering landfall every turn ez.
Drown in the Loch should be 4 of maindeck, no questions asked. Basically counterspell but it can also remove creatures.
Prismatic Ending is one of the main reasons to splash white in mill, I'd run 4 over Path to Exile which isn't as good right now.
Mill typically doesn't run targeted discard, which you may think is odd because its "controlly" but it really wants to mill the opponent out as fast as possible while removing and countering potential threats. I'd cut the Thoughtseizes and Serum Visions. To replace Visions I suggest 4x Visions of Beyond, which is basically Ancestral Recall (the best card in magic).
The last mill spell I suggest is Tasha's Hideous Laughter which mills around 25 cards versus hammer and other low cmc decks.
Crypt Incursion is a good one of against aggressive decks. I've lost to this card multiple times.
4 months ago
If landfall is your thing, I would recommend you yo add more legendary lands that you can fectch with your commander, these are my recomendations (not so budget friendly): Yavimaya Hollow, Oboro, Palace in the Clouds, Minamo, School at Water's Edge, Eiganjo Castle, and Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers. There are a lot more.
See you :)
5 months ago
First things first. Add 22 Island to get up to the card minimum, and round out your lands. You want to cut at least 300$ based on what you've said, so getting rid of Kindred Discovery, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Oboro, Palace in the Clouds, Cavern of Souls, Sapphire Medallion, Rhystic Study, Cyclonic Rift, and Aether Vial would cut about 335$ off your deck cost. I'd replace 4 or 5 of those cards with islands again to keep your land count where it should be. Don't get me wrong, they're all fantastic, and with a few exceptions would greatly power up the deck from their inclusion. The only ones that I don't think justify their costs in this deck are sapphire medallion, oboro, and aether vial.
Your deck is also a little light on finishers. I personally really like Rite of Replication to suddenly build a huge board, some other great alternatives (at varying price points) are Blatant Thievery or my personal favorite Expropriate.
This is a bit more up to personal choice, but I'm really not a fan of cantrips in a deck like this. If it were me, I'd cut Ponder, Preordain, and Brainstorm for things that are a bit more impactful. You're drawing a lot of cards anyway, so card selection isn't as important as raw draw power. I'd consider something like Overflowing Insight or even something simpler like Weave Fate.
I have no doubt more refinements will become apparent as you playtest, but I hope that helps!
5 months ago
1) fetchlands dont have to grab basics they can grab shock lands like Breeding Pool 2) you have a way to get artifacts from the graveyard to the battlefield so I would recommend crucible of worlds. 3) have you considered Ghost Quarter + Archive Trap as part of your deck? Its pretty good. or Field of Ruin 4) generally good cards in this deck to think about Visions of Beyond Fractured Sanity Tasha's Hideous Laughter Into the Story Oboro, Palace in the Clouds Shelldock Isle
7 months ago
1-2 Oboro, Palace in the Clouds would work well here
7 months ago
4x Drown in the Loch looks like a must here, if you cut the Dauthi.
I don't understand the 1x Into the Story with only 2x Visions of Beyond when the latter is just so much better. I'd cut it and replace it with a third Visions (honestly a fourth Visions is probably worth it, Ancestral Recall is broken even if its conditional.
The Dauthis are a total nonbo with a lot of your cards. Honestly, I don't think its worth keeping them since they prevent you from running Drown, shut down Crypt Incursion, Extirpate/Surgical, Into the Story, Visions of Beyond, etc. It feels more like a sideboard card for grave hate.
Tasha's Hideous Laughter is the main reason mill is even remotely viable nowadays. Not running a single copy seems very dubious.
Oboro, Palace in the Clouds is a nice one of land to help you reliably trigger the crabs.
Field of Ruin is nice to force opponents to search, and with tron making a comeback 3 copies might be worth it over the more common 2 copies. But with all the restrictive manacosts like Counterspell, Archmage's Charm, Fractured Sanity etc. running a playset feels like too much.