Scavenger Grounds

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Scavenger Grounds

Land — Desert

: Gain .

, , Sacrifice a Desert: Exile all cards from all graveyards.

mr5cientific on Musashi's Mosh Pit [Primer]

1 week ago

Totally get that - I'll have to pick up Scavenger Grounds myself!

Crow-Umbra on Musashi's Mosh Pit [Primer]

1 week ago

Thank you for the suggestions mr5cientific. So far I'm feeling pretty happy with where my manabase is at. I recently swapped out Bojuka Bog for Scavenger Grounds so I could hit multiple yards at once, and activate in response to combos/triggers etc.

I've had Slayer's Stronghold on my radar, but opted for Hanweir instead since the Haste activation was slightly cheaper, and has the Meld potential with Hanweir Garrison  Meld.

Of the 3 other lands you suggested, I could see maybe the White and/or Red lands fitting here, but I don't feel I currently need them. I think with this deck I'd rather have proactive board protection effects vs. Reanimation. I used Takenuma, Abandoned Mire in my Araumi deck before I took it apart. If I'm going to be milling, I like for it to be part of graveyard synergies. Similarly, if I am going to reanimate creatures in an aggro deck, I'd rather that they reanimate straight to the battlefield as opposed to my hand. I do have Living Death, Reanimate, Animate Dead, Necromancy, and Dance of the Dead as a reanimation package in binders in case I ever wanted to incorporate them. So far I'd rather just keep slamming creatures already in hand, instead of spending extra mana to get stuff back in non-Aristocrats/Reanimator deck.

goodair on Nonbasic Outcasts

2 weeks ago

i actually run desert in one of my decks. It's not that impressive but it has made a difference in some games where attacking wasn't ideal because of the extra damage added to blockers. It's really there for Scavenger Grounds but has its uses if your deck can afford some colorless lands!

Dromar is bascially a budget land, cloudpost is nuts if you can reliably spam copies, havinga single wastes to fetch for in a multicolored deck that utilizes colorless mana isn't bad either. My friend has a grothama deck with a bunch of eldrazis and runs some wastes just incase of nonbasic hate.

IHATENAMES on Maraxus of Keld Pump & Dump

3 weeks ago

OK I get the meta thing. Tbh up to you. Scavenger Grounds I'd suggest added to manabase to have 1 grave exile effect at least. Have an answer feels better even if you don't draw it.

As for modes on cards in commanderthey are important. I'm against the mage for curve reasons more so then anything else (also list is getting tighter). T3 ramping isn't the best. T3 making 2 bodies isn't the best. It's when they are together that makes it playable.

Fiendish Duo is a great card but there are some enchantments that double or triple with one that is a source you control if you want instead. I realize for instance Gratuitous Violence doesn't work it was in my list mb XD

Fair point on the greaves.

Laela is a great card by itself but if you exile a card you might not want to cast it can feel bad. Red card draw generally is like that. For now I'd suggest gobo Engineer. He can do some great work for you. A tutor for academy manufator or haste/trample/ramp enabler is spicy. Give deck some additional steam late if you lose some of your important artifacts.

Brash Taunter fight your commander. It is a 3 mana Fling effect every turn without sacing that doubles as a good blocker here. @[email protected] you don't need too much more synergies then that I think.

Neheb is a great big red deal damage to face payoff card. I've ended up cutting him out of my decks as I never seem to get him to survive a round. I worry you may run out of cards in hand to play and don't have alot of mana sync type cards. Worth trying maybe.

For the battle axe. It might be a good option to pump your creatures/make tokens but you can't swing a creature with it until like t5 most of the time. That's alot for it to do its thing. Then no double strike or free equipt makes it super expensive quickly. I love the card as for years I mostly ran mono white equipment vultron/tokens. But here the deck would have to refocus somewhat on equipment to make it work well.

Guerric on [Primer] Helming the Host of Heaven: A Giada Guide

1 month ago
New cards an en route in the mail, and I think I know how I am planning to update the deck. In the meantime, I'll continue to play as it is, but I can announce final plans later this week when the cards arrive. As of now, here is what I am planning, please let me know if you agree or disagree with any of my thinking as it could help me avoid errors.

1) Cosmos Elixir OUT Vanquisher's Banner IN

Elixir works in this deck but is my worst draw piece in that it only gives life if I don't draw, I have to have over 40 life to draw, it costs 4 colorless mana to cast, and it at most can net me one card per turn. The all star draw pieces so far are those that allow burst draw such as Well of Lost Dreams and Thorough Investigation. Banner allows for this burst draw as every angel replaces itself with a new card, and tokens net us free cards. Its one mana higher but the upside makes it a far superior card. The anthem is just gravy really.

2) Disenchant OUT Tome of Legends IN

I think there is sufficient removal in this deck, so I can afford to cut my worst piece. This deck needs more draw and better draw, so adding a card that can consistently net me an extra card most turns is great.

3) Welcoming Vampire OUT Eye of Vecna IN

Even though many of my angels are weenies they don't ETB that way. As such, vampire is subpar card draw here, whereas normally it is premium for white. Eye may only get me one extra card per turn but it is cheap, fairly unconditional, and I'll have plenty of life to power it. The only downside is that Angel of Jubilation shuts it down, but I think that in most cases I'll be glad to have the option to draw.

4) Mirror Entity OUT Sanctuary Warden IN

I can't believe I missed Warden on the first round. It is unlimited draw in this deck stapled to an angel which has quite a bit of built in protection due to the shield counters (which we won't have to use to power it thanks to Giada). I'll confess I've never liked Entity, though in this deck it has some additional upsides and additional downsides. As for upsides, the counters help it a lot. One reason I feel like Entity is weak normally is that it often dies to ping effects if you don't reserve mana to pump it. I've seen this over and over again over the years, but the counters Giada gives it here mean we can rest easy. Another advantage is that it is an angel here, so the deck supports it well. A disadvantage, however, is that it is less useful and necessary. It is most powerful when it turns 1/1 tokens into 4/4 threats and provides a massive swing. It does little in this deck unless we pump at least 5 mana into it, and even then the improvement is marginal. A second disadvantage is it doesn't fly. Even an Angelic Page is a huge threat in this deck that can go over a defensive line, whereas Entity can be chump blocked easily. Thirdly, it can't enabled combos in this deck because of Giada. We are playing Karmic Guide, so a thought might be to add Reveillark and enable the combo so we can gain infinite life and do other recurison shenanigans. The problem is that this approach relies on paying zero into Entity to kill the board, but the board won't die to counters, so Giada shuts the combo off. Overall I think this isn't worth it, I sentiment I feel about pretty much all of the non-flying changeling cards that we might think would be good to put in.

5) Plains OUT Together Forever IN

I think with enhanced card draw of the update and Giada's ramp ability I can afford to go down to 35 lands, something I have done successfully in other low-to-the-ground aggro decks. Together Forever is premium protection here that also allows Giada to give herself some protection. What I especially like about this card is that it can serve as protection from both targeted removal and board wipes. The deck has done well so far, but well-played protection is key, and this is one of the most flexible pieces there is.

6) Archaeomancer's Map OUT Mask of Memory IN

This is likely to be my most controversial change as Map is a good card that fetches some lands and can ramp over the course of the game, provided we have the lands in hand. It may be bad! That being said, ramp is less of a problem here because of Giada and because of our curve. Map is bad turn three play where we sometimes want to ramp, because it leaves us often having to discard on our end step. I think with our curve and Giada what is important is simply to draw into our land drops, and extra ramp is gravy. That means more draw is better than more ramp, and between Map and the swords/dagger I think the latter are better land fetching/ramp pieces in a deck with evasive creatures. Mask is great because we can see two cards every turn and discard whatever is least relevant in our hand. It can also go down on turn three and be immediately attached to Giada and used right away to get things going.

7) Angel of Finality OUT Angelic Curator IN

Finality isn't great here, as the body doesn't matter too much and cmc is less conducive to a go-wide and high theme than a 2-drop. I think more turn 2 angels has some advantage here, and this is the best of the bunch (other options would be changelings that don't fly). 2-drop angels allow us to play an angel and a support piece like Tome of Legends on turn three, or even play two angels. Four drops can also be good turn three if they are high impact, which Finality is not. It was only in to be an anti-graveyard piece, but is just bad when there are no serious graveyard threats. As such, I'll address that by putting Scavenger Grounds into the mana base and drop the curve to a better place.

8) Mana Base Changes- I'm going to cut two of three cycling lands as this deck really doesn't want lands coming into play tapped, especially early in the game, and the cycling option just isn't worth it. I'll keep Secluded Steppe for now on account if its efficiency, but the others are gone. They'll be replaced with War Room and Bonders' Enclave, which tap for colorless but come into play untapped and give us additional card draw options that we need. Since we are only in one color we can afford more colorless lands than other decks, but we want as many to come untapped as possible due to the fact that we always have stuff to do early. I'll also add Seraph Sanctuary for more life gain and Scavenger Grounds to deal with problematic graveyards.

Those are the proposed changes. Let me know what you think!

Guerric on [Primer] Helming the Host of Heaven: A Giada Guide

1 month ago

I have also pondered maybe cutting Angel of Finality. Once again this would be cutting a four drop and also a graveyard removal piece, but I could pop Scavenger Grounds into the mana base to make up for that. Just a thought. I'm definitely curious about people's opinions on cuts.

Ouroboros_47 on Budget sliver deck

2 months ago

Secluded Courtyard and Ancient Ziggurat would let you go into 5 colors which is what slivers really wants to do. That would let you use more utility lands like Scavenger Grounds if you want. It would also open up slivers you currently can't use like Leeching Sliver and Diffusion Sliver. Unsettled Mariner and Realmwalker are pretty decent as well.

awatts30 on Varina

2 months ago

Thanks, Guerric! There’s a lot to parse here, so I may take it in parts.

Firstly, the extra lands are temporary. My target is 36, but I had 13 extra spells, so I added 7 basics (35% rate) to be able to goldfish effectively. Sometimes I can learn a bit more about the deck and make changes that way. As I pare down spells, I’ll take out lands too. I thought about Crucible of Worlds, but opted against it because it would change my play style, but without tutors or duplicate effects it’s too high-variance.

The Stifle is mostly there to stop graveyard hate, which tends to be one-off abilities (Bojuka Bog, Scavenger Grounds, Tormod's Crypt, Relic of Progenitus) and which could really mess up my plans. That’s a good point on Dovin's Veto; maybe I’ll swap it for a Negate.

I really like Reconnaissance because it not only allows me to attack into unfavorable board states but also gives pseudo-vigilance, allowing me to commit all my zombies without worrying about the crack back. Anything to maximize those Varina triggers! Flawless Maneuver might need to come out, though.

I’ve used Plumb the Forbidden to great effect in my Mazirek deck. Since it’s instant speed, it’s really good at turning creatures that would die to unfavorable combat or a board wipe into card advantage, and since it’s 2 CMC I can always just put the mana into Varina if I don’t wind up needing it. I had Kindred Discovery in there originally, but in a deck that’s both ETBing and swinging this much it seemed like overkill (plus it’s crazy expensive). A lot of my perspective on card draw may need to change, too. Like I said, I’m not used to using my graveyard, and while Varina let’s me look at a lot, I’m still uncomfortable throwing cards away. After all, they’re all in there because I want to cast them! I need to get better at choosing what to pitch (which is kind of the whole point of making this deck), but corollary to that is figuring out how much draw-to-hand I need and how much I can lean on my ‘yard.

A lot of the deck techs I’ve looked at leaned into Varina’s activated ability. I didn’t much like that because (1) it makes her into a glorified token factory, (2) I want to push myself to use the cards in my graveyard, and (3) why would I want to spend 2 mana and two cards for a vanilla zombie when I can spend 2 mana and one card for a Corpse Knight, a Wayward Servant, or 3 mana for a Diregraf Captain. In the little bit of goldfishing I’ve done, though, she’s dumping cards so fast that exiling two of them isn’t even a problem. I had originally taken Tormod, the Desecrator out, but wound up putting him back in because of the number of cards I was exiling. I’d like to bring it back toward a reanimator strategy, and I think Syr Konrad, the Grim would be a good payoff for that.

You have a ton of good suggestions, including Crashing Drawbridge, Dusk / Dawn, Necromancy et al. (I knew there were others, I just couldn’t remember them!), Living Death/Rise of the Dark Realms, Haunting Voyage/Patriarch's Bidding, and the talismans, but I still need to cut 13 spells to even get down to 100 cards, and then more to make room for any of them. This is my problem!

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