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Cavern of Souls
Land
As Cavern of Souls enters the battlefield, choose a creature type.
: Add .
: Add one mana of any colour. Spend this mana only to cast a creature spell of the chosen type, and that spell can't be countered.
BirdieGirlie on Spiteful Avatar
1 day ago
Intrigued by the new turn into blue/black/green! I think this is shaping up really well!!!
A few thoughts:
I think you might speed up the deck a lot by getting rid of the two Avatar of Might and just running 4 copies of Hunted Phantasm. That's the best card in the deck! Avatar is the only card on the list that can't just be played when drawn. There's a condition that needs to be met. The rest have no condition and should come out on the field ASAP.
Swan Song and Strix Serenade are both fantastic for the deck and strictly better than Into the Flood Maw which you have in right now. Amulet of Safekeeping is also kind of a dead/do nothing card, because it sits on the field and provides passive support. I think you should swap those pairs of cards.
Blood Seeker is a worse Blood Artist in exchange for 1 power and I don't think that's worth it to you. I think you should replace that with one of the blue 1 mana instant draw spells -- Brainstorm, Opt, something like that. It will get more cards into your hand and make your play faster! The more card draw you have, the more likely you are to hit Blood Artist at all to get her onto the field!
Also those two legendary lands are awesome, but not worthwhile in this deck. You're running 3 Prismatic Vista with exactly 3 basic lands in the deck. You draw those lands and all three vistas become a dead draw. You need basic lands. You need fetchable lands at least. There are basic dual lands out there! Put in some Swamp/Islands, Swamp/Forests, and Forest/Islands instead. I still think you should take out the Cavern of Souls in favor of colored mana-generating lands as well. So many of your cards require 2 colored mana, after all!
Excited to see where you take the deck from here!!!
Foxigami on Spiteful Avatar
2 weeks ago
wow these are awesome suggestions!
first. i totally misread Spiteful Banditry, thought it could make a treasure token for each token killed. BirdieGirlie while some of the suggestions for cards are not modern legal (Grismold, the Dreadsower, Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor, and Sylvan Offering); thank you for the suggestions! legendofa your deck looks very fun, gave me some fun ideas as well as got me into a rabbit hole of finding even more cards to consider.
first the land base was copied from another deck that is another variation of this idea. I already have some ideas on how to change it.
i would have to agree that we have too many pieces doing the same thing. while it does help with make the deck more consistent with damaging the opponents for having creatures, this deck needs more token generation. i am leaning at Slaughter Specialist and Tribute to Horobi Flip. Slaughter Specialist in this deck can be a wincon on its own with how much mass creature removal this deck has; Tribute to Horobi Flip for generating tokens and the flipside is also neat if the opponent still has the rat tokens.
i think removal wise, i would be keen on removing one of the creatures as Blood Artist is can be a wincon on its own with the mass creature removal we have. Suture Priest is also way too good to not include as mentioned before, so i think removing Blood Seeker is the call, though there is a world were you could keep it. that world is if we want to cut out out white from this deck and add Slaughter Specialist and Cavern of Souls for the vampire tribal action. something i will have to consider.
Mercy Killing looks soo good on paper, but in practice it is a dead card against non-creature decks. it could work if we consider Hunted Horror, but it is a sideboard piece for sure though.
Hunted Troll is very fun, but also very slow. but the regeneration ability does give it potential. probably replace 2 copies of Avatar of Might with it.
Hunted Phantasm is too good for this deck to be considered for removal. the amount of damage it could dish when we have our game plan online is a wincon on its own and its stats and unblockable ability can close out games too. however it will depend on what color direction i go with this deck. more about that later on.
i would agree that ramp and card draw is very important and this deck needs some. Sylvan Scrying would be such a great card in this deck. it being able to find Forbidden Orchard is too valuable as well as fixing mana problems.
now there is one thing i have found that no one suggested, that would be The Phasing of Zhalfir. at first this card seems to be a slow token generator as it is a saga, however the read ahead ability gives makes it even better. we can board wipe and generate tons of tokens on both sides of the field for 4 mana. the possibilities are very high for this card: first if we have a lot of tokens on the board with Blood Artist out, that will be a lot of damage and life gained. second if we have Trespasser's Curse out, that is even more damage. finally you have the option to phase out an important piece that would be wiped by this card at the cost of tempo. good for if the opponent has a big creature to answer Avatar of Might or if you need to protect something at sorcery speed. def going to replace Spiteful Banditry with it. another
now for color directions this deck can go. boy there is a lot. first lets talk about the colors we cant remove. black should never be removed, too many synergy pieces are in black. green also is paramount with Avatar of Might, Sylvan Scrying, and Golgari Charm. every other color could be removed in favor of making this deck 3 or 4 colors. if we include white, we would be considering Suture Priest, Ghostly Prison, Authority of the Consuls, and Parting Gust. this makes the deck more controlling. adding blue gives us Hunted Phantasm, Swan Song, Strix Serenade, The Phasing of Zhalfir, and Into the Flood Maw. adding red gives us Spiteful Banditry (even if it isnt good), Rakdos Charm and Sazacap's Brew. we have a lot of flexibility to even splash colors. overall we have some pretty good options. i apreciate all the help so far and cant wait to see how this deck will end up looking like!
BirdieGirlie on Spiteful Avatar
2 weeks ago
This is such an interesting deck omfg I love it!!!! I have many thoughts!!!
First of all, you need more lands. You need colored mana, you shouldn't be running Field of Ruin. And, Cavern of Souls is so so powerful, but what creature type are you naming? The only type you have more than one of is Vampire, and that's not the type you really want to be defending with the uncounterable ability. So do you play the land and name, like, Avatar or Spirit, the two cards you really want to defend when they come in, even if you don't have one in hand, telegraphing to your opponent what you want to do? It's not worth it. I would take all those out and replace them with dual Islands and Plains. Or Islands and Swamps, since you have disproportionate amounts of black. I think you should add in more white, as you will see.
Three creatures all do the same things and in this case I think that's detrimental to the deck. I think Suture Priest is the best of the bunch and we can work on replacing the other two. Some options: Hunted Troll, Grismold, the Dreadsower, Slaughter Specialist, and Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor. They all give you more tokens. Speaking of which, a fourth Hunted Phantasm will probably also help you a lot. I'd also reduce your number of Avatar of Might by one or two, I think. It's a wincon, but doesn't give you tokens.
I also think you might want to find a place for Authority of the Consuls. Maybe instead of two Amulet of Safekeeping? Idk. A card more like Ghostly Prison forces the opponent to pay a steeper price. And it's an enchantment, I feel like enchantment removal is much more rare than artifact.
Mercy Killing and Sylvan Offering both get you more tokens without being a creature. To me Spiteful Banditry feels really bad in this deck. You have so many things that rely on having all of those tokens on your opponent's field, and you wipe them all out for...a single Treasure token? Feels bad, man. The Meathook Massacre is a wincon, and Golgari Charm can be your token removal and it's cheaper. If I had all three of those cards in hand, I would never choose Banditry. Rakdos Charm is also a wincon imo so maybe add more of those.
Finally, I'd be remiss if I didn't suggest you add some ramp and card draw. Sylvan Scrying, Opt, something similar. There are many.
I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Optimization. If you really want to optimize colors and stuff, it would be possible to take out blue altogether. Hunted Phantasm is an amazing card, but Hunted Troll is almost as good, and your mana situation will be a lot less complicated. You can switch that one island to something else. Take out Banditry and you have only a little bit of red left in the deck, so you can really focus on black, white, and green. But that's not as fun! Just figured I'd mention it.
...I've been having so much fun writing all this out and I just looked at your format again and I'd totally forgotten it! I think most of these cards should be ok for Modern! This deck concept is just so much fun I think I went a little overboard here. Sorry!
angelx on Runo Stromkirk Clerics
2 weeks ago
18/09
We actually are playing lower end for now, just going to tighten up the SeaBeasts and the staples a little. Also Davey Jones' Locker.
OUT - Saheeli's Artistry - Snow-Covered Swamp - Deceiver Exarch - Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip - Shield Broker - Stormsurge Kraken - Cavern of Souls - Reflections of Littjara - Talisman of Dominance
IN - Brinelin, the Moon Kraken - Quest for Ula's Temple - Marit Lage's Slumber - Lightning Greaves - Sapphire Medallion - Swiftfoot Boots - The Grim Captain's Locker - Agadeem's Awakening Flip - Blood on the Snow
capwner on Who's Counting?
3 weeks ago
Mono-green isn't known for protection spells but it does have Heroic Intervention which is solid, and, if you're really creature-reliant, perhaps Wrap in Vigor, Asceticism, Archetype of Endurance, and Yavimaya Hollow. You do have access to a lot of anti-counterspell cards with Allosaurus Shepherd, Veil of Summer, Dosan the Falling Leaf, as well as land tutors to find Cavern of Souls and Boseiju, Who Shelters All, though obviously these cards are better in decks that build around a single creature type or have powerful instants/sorceries.
beeSquared on Heliod, Stax-Crowned
1 month ago
@capwner I 100% agree with the Cavern of Souls pick. I didn't realize while I was going through my revisions that I still had a lot of humans in the deck. Will make that switch right away!
I should probably start a Maybeboard with cards including Boromir, Warden of the Tower as he was originally part of the list while I was cutting cards, and he was one of the few I was struggling to keep or not in the 99.
I'm a dirty blue player at heart so finding a balance between having enough stax pieces while also having some form of interaction/recursion was a fun challenge for me with this deck. I will definitely be checking out your list when I have time later today! Always love seeing other people's ideas when approaching a similar theme/playstyle
capwner on Heliod, Stax-Crowned
1 month ago
I almost just built this same deck lol. I wanted to build mono W wrath prison with Myojin of Cleansing Fire and Heliod as a wincon, and then I remembered that card is stone garbage as a commander. So I thought about building Heliod just for the ease of comboing off, but I ultimately decided to build Boromir, Warden of the Tower because he also has 2-piece combos/locks that I thought better fit the 'prison' style I was going for. It's interesting to see a fully fleshed Heliod list right after building my white list... Your list seems a bit light on stax pieces actually, with a lot more instant speed interaction to protect the combo win. Seems pretty good! Boromir might actually be good in here as a decent stax piece himself and also being able to protect your team, since you are almost entirely on hatebears. Also Cavern of Souls is a must IMO because of all your humans, and your win combo is also creature based. Just some thoughts, if you wanted to check out an alternate take on mono W stax/prison, check out my deck it should be near the top of my profiles! +1 for that mono white steez
FadingReality on Dragons, Dragons, Dragons
3 months ago
I like every single creature in the deck at this point. I have 5 suggestions: 4 for your land base and 1 for removal. Somewhat expensive suggestions but nothing too crazy.
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