Creature — Ouphe
Activated abilities of artifacts can't be activated.
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|Modern Horizons (MH1)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Collector Ouphe Discussion
3 weeks ago
Glad to hear that!
It is undeniably true that most hatebears can't compete with the raw piles of stats that are some of this deck's creatures, but as of recent, I really found myself enjoying some stax pieces in various decks. A deck that is oddly similar to this one is my Nath of the Guilt Leaf Elf/Discard deck (I am not going to put a link to it here, since I am not trying to advertise my own deck right now, if you really wanna check it out, feel free to look trough my decks). While it is not entirely fast-paced aggro, it resembles the same overall game plan: Kill your opponents before they have a chance to get their deck to work or before they can interact with your stuff. In case of my Elf-deck, I don't necessarily try to outspeed my opponents, I rather take all their resources and options to destroy my board and then beat them with my army of creatures, one at a time. And stax pieces play a key role in that strategy.
A few examples:
- I assembled a giant Elf-army, but I know that at least 2 of my opponents are likely to have a boardwipe in hand. My last card in hand is Demonic Tutor --> Winter Orb. Everyone is tapped out, so the table scoops.
- Every time I play a Collector Ouphe the table collectively sighs and spends the next few rotation to do everything they can to get rid of it (even wasting entire turns and tutors)
- Turn 2 Oppression --> no opponent has cards in hand by turn 5, let the beating begin.
My point is, that there are many great cards out there that punish more reactive strategies.I think this deck's biggest weakness is that you can only be so fast. I think this deck is perfectly tuned in this regard, but if you can't go faster, the only way is to make everyone else slower. So I think the trade off that must be considered is how much speed you have to sacrifice in order to slow down your opponents to an amount that makes it worth it. Obviously, hate/stax in the form or creatures if way better fitted for this deck's aggressive strategy, because it would be fatal to take a key turn off to play a hate-piece without advancing your offensive power.
Smol Thalia could be really great, but this deck plays quite a lot of non-creature spells itself. Collector Ouphe for example has proven incredibly useful and I think it would very well be worth the trade-off, as it sometimes literally cuts people's mana in half. If you would like me to create a list of hatebears that I would suggest, just let me know ;)
3 weeks ago
You should try running Ponder and Preordain -- they belong in any blue deck, including this one. They may not look like much, but they're banned in Modern for a reason. In that vein, I usually don't recommend Brainstorm for decks not playing fetches, but I think it's fine here since your general can mill off the cards you put back.
Dorks. I notice you're not running any one-drop mana-dorks. You should run some. It's hard to beat the rate of ramp they provide, and late game you can Victimize or Dread Return some or do whatever you want with them. Seriously, they're absurd. Consider at least four of the following: Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Arbor Elf, Deathrite Shaman, Elves of Deep Shadow and/or Birds of Paradise.
Similar to dorks, Utopia Sprawl and Wild Growth are good methods of ramping. It's worth noting that since they're not creatures they won't trigger your general, but if you're running Arbor Elf they may be worth including anyway. Carpet of Flowers is good, but it's rocketed up in price so IDK if it's worth it rn.
There're some pieces of permanent-based disruption you might find helpful. You're not running much in the way of artifacts with activated abilities, and if you choose to run dorks you can cut Golgari Signet. That would let you run things like Collector Ouphe or, if you really wanted, Null Rod. Narset, Parter of Veils is a great card, especially if you run Windfall (which I think you should even if you don't run Narset, Parter of Veils). Depending on your meta, Ashiok, Dream Render can be a powerhouse.
Since I've never played this specific build, IDK how long you spend with a full graveyard. If it's more than one or two turns in the course of an average game, consider Splendid Reclamation. If you can return four or five lands with it, that's a big swing your next turn.
Doom Whisperer seems like a fine creature to run.
Lim-Dul's Vault is a good instant speed tutor.
Right. That's all I got.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Hey hey dawg!
There are just so many ways you could go about this! I have no idea if I'm doing the right thing here but here are a few ideas
Return of the Wildspeaker --> out -- I just dont think this card is very good in general. You dont have a ton of big creatures and +3/+3 isn't that exciting. Would rather play Harmonize which is unconditional.
Austere Command --> maybeboard -- This could be wrong, but I was looking for cards to cut and felt like an expensive wrath wasn't exactly where your deck wanted to be.
Keeper of Fables --> maybeboard -- I mean I get it that you can potentially draw up to 3 cards a turn, but its just so meh.
Greater Auramancy --> Maybeboard -- I was considering this cuz I think there's potential for a strong enchantments theme. Opted for Sterling Grove instead because it also tutors but this is here just as a consideration.
Archon of Absolution --> maybeboard -- Its on theme but I don't think its taxing enough right? maybe I'm crazy and this is exactly what you want cuz you can trigger goad with your commander?? but its 4 mana as well idk I just took it out cuz its floor is very low.
Kinjalli's Sunwing --> out -- Not sure why this card was in here to begin with, I mean you aren't granting mass haste or anything and the whole idea is you're goading people so few people are gonna have blockers, plus plenty of your is evasive. I think Thalia, Heretic Cathar feels this role very well already.
Urabrask the Hidden --> maybeboard -- This card is sweet but its 5 mana.
Elspeth, Sun's Champion --> maybeboard -- Elspeth feels a little out of place.
Beast Whisperer --> maybeboard -- Not into this as a reliable form of card draw.
Soltari Champion --> out -- I get the idea, you're trying to trigger goad, but isn't this card just bad? a 3 mana unblockable with battlecry doesn't seem particularly playable.
Gruul War Chant --> out -- This card is just way too low impact for 4 mana.
Sunblast Angel --> Maybeboard -- I get the idea cuz everyone is attacking and tapped but meh.
Dryad Sophisticate --> out -- I don't think unblockable 2/1 are good enough even if they do trigger marisi. I like the idea of playing evasive hatebears or something. Maybe I'm just way off base with this deck haha
The Great Henge --> maybeboard -- this card is sweet and super pwoerful but you got a bunch of dorky 2/2s and stuff this thing is gonna routinely cost you like 7 mana and at that point wouldn't you just play Zendikar Resurgent? (I didn't put zendikar resurgent in though but if you want an effect like henge, I think I'd go with resurgent)
Druids' Repository --> main -- Idk! this seems cool and fun!! All your creatures become mana dorks cuz they'll be attacking anyway! Seems p good! Also if you make a bunch of 1/1 tokens with Tempt with Vengeance and Sylvan Offering you make a bunch of mana when they attack!
Skullclamp --> main -- I think because stuff like Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor plus having a bunch of stuff that might end up dying this'll draw you a lot of cards. Plus if you play Tempt with Vengeance and Sylvan Offering its bonkers!!
Insurrection --> main -- Its a sweet win condition!!
Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor --> main -- in my view this exactly what you want to be doing!
ok wow this comment is getting long so I'm just gonna list the rest of the cards that I think should go in/out:
War's Toll -- in
Sterling Grove -- in
Sphere of Safety - in
Sylvan Offering - in
Enlightened Tutor - in
Harmonize - in
Goblin Spymaster - in
Tahngarth, First Mate - in (this one just seems fun :D totally get it if you decide not to)
Tempt with Vengeance - in
Teferi's Protection - in
Rishkar's Expertise - out
Grand Melee - maybe, for now I decided to just play war's toll but maybe neither are good enough
Whew!! Can't wait to play against this in any shape or form! Hope at least some of these suggestions help!
1 month ago
OtherWorldlyShadowthanks for the comment.
We already have a copy of Collector Ouphe in the Mainboard. I agree that it's a perfect fit here. Stony Silence would be amazing, and I do own a spare copy. Didn't realize that none of my current Artifacts have activated abilities.
That card will fit so well. Just need to decide what to replace. If you have any suggestions, feel free. Likely a lesser 1-3 mana cat. Although the deck really wants a 1-drop kitty in every starting hand, there are some less potent ones.. or maybe replace Dust to Dust since in essence, a Stony Silence will stop most of the opponent's useful artifacts from being used, and is lower cmc as a bonus. Thoughts?
Kataki, War's Wage is the tougher sell. I wanna keep dropping cats, and don't really want to pay that added cost myself if I happen to land a nice equipment. If it's not going to lock the game win for me, I'll be in a bad spot paying added upkeep costs for it while still trying to find a win. I know a lot of people really love that card, and I've had it in my Isamaru, Hound of Konda deck previously, but it just seemed very underwhelming and too situational for my play style. I can see it being very useful, but I'd pilot it terribly, which is likely just a fault of my own. But at least a fault I'm aware of.
These were great tips, and I really appreciate them. If you have any ideas to improve on my lands, I'm all ears. Thanks!
1 month ago
With running no mana rocks and minimal artifacts, have you considered running cards like Stony Silence, Collector Ouphe, or even Kataki, War's Wage? Artifact hate could provide a rather painful effect for your opponents that you do not really feel. And on top of that, they do not hurt your curve for the most part, as all three are 2 cmc.
1 month ago
Viscera Seer because it is such amazing utility. I would play it even if it didn't say scry 1 because it allows infinite sacs and counterplay to some of my opponents spells for the low low price of .
Collector Ouphe because when this bad boy is on my side of the field I can just sac him and go off when I need, while still dunking on the storm player with a single 2/2 green boi.
I look to be highly interactive despite my distaste for blue in general, and plan to force my opponents into positions where they need to interact or lose and even then I recur what I lost and just go for it again. I play things that are my own brew so my fast wins fly under the radar while there are fish hulk, opus theif, and najeela decks that people are rightfully more worried about. Cheap and efficient is my mantra.
1 month ago
Hey all! I've recently decided to let go of my Druid combo stuff, since I prefer a more Pod-like approach as opposed to all-in combo, so I have the following available:
Devoted Druid (Ultimate Masters)
Vizier of Remedies
Giver of Runes
Finale of Devastation
3 Duskwatch Recruiter Flip
Knight of Autumn
Birds of Paradise (2 M12, M11, Battlebond)
1 Silent Clearing
2 Walking Ballista
1 Ranger-Captain of Eos
3 Postmortem Lunge
1 Chord of Calling (M15, Russian)
1 Collector Ouphe
3 Veil of Summer
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben (Dark Ascension)
4 Restoration Angel (Avacyn Restored)
3 Wall of Omens
So yeah, I'm keeping the lands, Hierarchs, Eldritch Evolutions, and Pod stuff (you can't pry Voice of Resurgence or Kitchen Finks from my cold dead hands), but most everything else I have is fair game. If there's anything else I may not have listed, feel free to ask about it. I probably have it. :)
I'm looking for:
Sword of Feast and Famine
4 Ice-Fang Coatl
1 Spell Queller
2 Monastery Mentor (I have 1 Korean if anyone wants to swap their English one)
1x Cavern of Souls (preferable Innistrad, either printing is fine tho)
2x Selesnya Sanctuary
1x Hornet Queen
I will also binder dive, but my binder seems to show only the foil/promos?