You may have Vesuva enter the battlefield as a copy of any land on the battlefield.
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Vesuva occurrence in decks from the last year
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2 weeks ago
I could be wrong about this, but I don't think you can use the Food Chain mana you generate to activate Golos's ability, as food chain mana can only be used to cast creature spells, not activate abilities. There are still definitely land combos you can get by casting Golos infinitely, like getting out Dark Depths and then getting a Vesuva as a copy of depths, sacrificing the original to the legend rule, and sacrificing the copy to get a 20/20 Marit lage to the field. If you want to include guildgates, you could throw in a Maze's End plus anything that untaps a land, fetch out all your gates, get the maze's end, and untap it to just win on the spot. You could also throw in a worldgorger or dramatic scepter combo in order to get infinite mana and activate Golos infinitely, and then you can find altar of the brood and food chain to win off of that. You could also exile your library and cast thoracle or a lab man to win off of that.
3 weeks ago
Thank you, I appreciate your appreciation. In light of your suggestion, i'm looking at cutting Fleshbag Marauder for Phyrexian Obliterator . I've liked the idea of Mirage Mirror but I don't get what the potential value you see in it could be in? Is this perhaps similar value in mind to Profet93 and I's discussion over Vesuva and Thespian Stage? Likewise are you seeing the same similarities in Homeward Path and Guardian Beast ?
1 month ago
I have been thinking about making an spell based Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait too once I realized that Aesi lets you draw the card you put on top with Mystic Sanctuary . Speaking of Mystic Sanctuary , I feel like there is there is a lot of broken things we can do with it, which is quite nice as there are almost a million way to tutor for islands in the game ( like the expensive fetches , the cheap fetches , the panoramas , Farseek , or even islandcycling ). First off Ghostly Flicker + Mystic Sanctuary is draw a card at instant speed for U whenever the heck you want. Add in Vesuva and you make Snapcaster Mage look like a bad card, or you can just add in High Tide to generate infinite Mana and draw your entire deck. Further Deprive and some of the moonfolk also work quite well with Mystic Sanctuary , or really any repeatable effect that returns lands to our hands.
1 month ago
My name on here is just my initials and birth year, I have another account here on tapped out I lost both the email and password to due to the sands of time, but im sure you can still find the account here: Oltos01
understood, i was more referencing your reference to the Lethal Vapors i think our bullets points when numbered get moved after previewing the comment
Honestly, i also liked Nightmare Shepherd a lot to. I would still consider running him, but the rulings are to a deterrent to me where as with Homeward Path I just straight get my stuff back, not to mention given people their creatures back then casting a Living Death ...idk sounds pretty brutal to me
Speaking of this, dismember will be staying slaughter will be leaving. On a side note I picked up a Volrath's Stronghold from my LGS today (thank goodness for wishlist notifications) as well as a copy Vesuva and Jeweled Lotus . Super excited about these pick ups considering proxying the lotus into this deck, can't quite decide.
I don't quite know yet, but your suggestion is hilarious as I had cut Mind Stone from the deck earlier in our discussions for the Arcane Signet . about your question, I would assume that everyone exiles their original hand and ends up with no hand? Another ruling question to pose
1 month ago
Why: Scrap Trawler loop enabled with Myr Retriever and Junk Diver , also lowers curve overall and better overall synergy, potential win with Zulaport Cutthroat or Syr Konrad, the Grim , good looks Omniscience_is_life
Why: Profet93 you are correct, much better value
Why: you right Profet93
Why: mindslash isn't as efficient as id like to think it is, puts opponents creatures back in their graveyard (theoretically) and that works against Living Death
Why: Profet93, you clearly point out the why, there is no contention with your logic and rational
Why: Cuts curve, synergy with the trawler line, can easily produce more mana then any other rock in the deck. (potentially infinite???)
Profet93 Metalworker is just a really good way to ramp, acts as a rock for explosiveness. there are 21 total artifacts in the deck, so just above 20% of the deck feeds him, which is also why I included Vault of Whispers unless you think Darksteel Citadel would serve better in this slot
1 month ago
I saw the name of your deck and thought wait there are only 11 gate cards. And I'm not sure if you are counting Vesuva as a gate, however it will not help you win the game because Maze's End says that each of the gates need to have different names. So you might want to consider putting in a different land like Plaza of Harmony .
2 months ago
Commander Legends review for Lord Windgrace and Thoughts
Missed out on looking at these cards the first time so another look at cards that can synergise with this deck or with more general Lord Windgrace decks after actually testing them out.
This card looks like it may just slot right in but I would caution against just jamming this in. It is very powerful to be able to just pick out ten lands from the library and slam them on the battlefield, no sacrificing or any real downside but there are a couple of issues to consider:
- The card is 9 mana, and requires triple green. This is not difficult to do with mana fixing but because the lands enter tapped from Reshape the Earth and the spell is sorcery speed, this is pretty much your entire turn. This means that you better be planning to win the game with this spell on the turn you play it because your green mana will be heavily depleted when you do. There are pretty much two options: Field of the Dead or Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle for ETB triggers, but this can also be a trap. If you fetch Vesuva with this ability, you have to have one of the above lands already on the battlefield. This is because when Vesuva enters the battlefield at the same time as another land, due to timing it only checks land already on the battlefield. There is a similar issue with Thespian Stage as when the land enters...it has already had its ETB. This means that you can't just fetch Field of the Dead or Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle along with the two copy lands from the library and try to stack the triggers, it just doesn't work. This card just can't immediately win you the game in most circumstances. You could look at Dread Presence dealing a good 20 damage or getting a sweet Valakut Exploration turn, but you can't just straight up 40 someone unless you already have a very specific boardstate. I just don't think this card is worth including in this archetype.
I was surprisingly up on this card when it was first spoiled because of the Glacial Chasm synergy (never take combat damage, never lose the Monarchy). Now on top of being the eternal Monarch, you get the benefit of all your permanents being hexproof, which includes your land. Now you have protection against opponents removing your key lands! The issue is that it is still a creature body, doesn't really have any land-synergistic abilities and is 7 mana. I dropped Avenger of Zendikar for being expensive to play, and this just draws you a card at end step, not terrible, but not the most exciting thing to ever happen. Maybe this card is just too 'win more' to be an inclusion, but it has a sweet interaction with this deck.
Honestly not terrible but not exciting either. The key thing is that it doesn't untap your lands, and there's no real benefit for them being creatures, if you have a Glacial Chasm out they can't even attack...and they're 1/1s so you need something to buff them up before they attack. That's several steps more complicated than dumping a Torment of Hailfire or Exsanguinate on the board.
Now I'm usually very up on enchantments in commander. They're usually (in my experience) more difficult to interact with compared to artifacts. This is a way to just ramp or cheat out creatures. If you're planning of dumping big creatures on the board: this is a great card if you're running Glacial Chasm because you will never stop being the monarch, but it's an upkeep trigger. In this particular deck I don't think it has enough value to justify cutting another card to fit it in, it's just too slow.
Interesting value engine: play a land, you get to cheat in another land. Would/should you pay 6 mana for this? Well only if you have a bunch of lands in hand, which is generally not where this deck wants to be (usually they should be being discarded so you pull them back onto the battlefield). Any ramp potential is stymied by the mana cost. Powerful effect, just doesn't seem to quite work in this deck.
Not bad: find forest, put on battlefield, solid cheap ramp, consider adding it in if you have the space. There aren't that many great forests, so this isn't as much of a utility spell tutor, just plain ramp.
2 months ago
Great to hear, OJSTheJuice.
So looking over how Field of the Dead generally plays from experience:
This deck as it stands is more like a land toolbox deck that ramps to just try and cast a big Torment of Hailfire, honestly that's the gameplan 99% of the time. So you won't usually be fetching out Field of the Dead until it's necessary as it enters tapped and taps for colourless mana, so its not a good ramping card and fixes nothing colour-wise. You also can't attack while Glacial Chasm is out, which is your main way to just pretty much phase out of until you ramp into big mana with Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, so its offensive capacity is somewhat hindered if you're turtling. Honestly by the mid game you should have seven different land names because with the fetch/land tutor mix unless you get rather unlucky and end up with a whole bunch of basics with no fetches, snow lands wouldn't really make that much of a difference. If you have have access to fetches, you can fetch shocks or cycle lands (still waiting for triomes in jund, one day...). So the only case where this would really affect anything is where you have maybe 7-9 lands and some duplicate basics. Given that maybe half the deck is lands, there are multiple search and graveyard recursion strategies, I think that this is the only scenario you could lose out.
Looking at Field of the Dead, the best setup you could have would be something like Vesuva + Thespian Stage copying Field of the Dead with a Ramunap Excavator and Azusa, Lost but Seeking plus Lord Windgrace. Now best case scenario this might be something like 5 land drops over 3 to that's 15 zombies: 30 power isn't bad at all (even assuming you get fetches, you might squeeze an extra 2 or 3 drops before you start running low on fetchable sources), but it shouldn't really be the focus of what you're doing. Field of the Dead is a good way to throw up blockers, not really be offensive unless you have no other options (either because of counterspells or because you milled both Torment and Exsanguinate with no Bala Ged Recovery Flip to get them back). The vulnerability in this deck is that it has surprisingly few ways to get back things that aren't land.
How I've used Field of the Dead in the past is for instant-speed blockers, because it's not something a lot of players can really interact with. It's a good way to defend Lord Windgrace from an attack (as he's not protected by Glacial Chasm). It's value should be largely incidental to what you are already doing (ramping), not the focus unless it is one of your last remaining strategies (only just above Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle).