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Saprazzan Skerry
Land
Saprazzan Skerry enters the battlefield tapped with two depletion counters on it.
, Remove a depletion counter from Saprazzan Skerry: Add to your mana pool. If there are no depletion counters on Saprazzan Skerry, sacrifice it.
nuperokaso on Help me Man the Lux Cannons!
11 months ago
The big question is - what format is this deck trying to be and what is your budget? Obviously this will never be competitive, but if cards from any edition are allowed, you have hundreds of choices:
- Braided Net Flip - This is a Tumble Magnet with multiple advantages. It can stop Planeswalkers what the original magnet could not. It stops other activated abilities. It can draw a lot of cards. Note that once again, the other side can be untapped in reaction to the activation, so you'll have the effect twice.
- Manifold Key - Strictly better than Voltaic Key
- The Enigma Jewel Flip - another mana source for activated abilities. However, it legendary, so play at most one.
- Pithing Needle - stops problematic Planeswalker and can be found by a Trinket Mage
- Relic of Progenitus - stops graveyard strategies without hurting your deck. Even when the opponent doesn't have anything with graveyard, this can draw a card to replace itself. Can be found by a Trinket Mage
- Experimental Augury - reasonably cheap card selection that proliferates.
- Vesuva, Tolaria West - If you ever want more Locus Lands.
- Urza's Tower, Urza's Power Plant, Urza's Tower, Expedition Map - alternative mana base instead of Cloudpost.
- Moonsnare Prototype - One mana accelerator.
- Inventors' Fair is artifact tutor and a life gain on a land.
If you REALLY want to go all in on counters and play older cards:
- Hickory Woodlot, Saprazzan Skerry, Peat Bog, Sandstone Needle, Remote Farm are lands that produce two mana as long as you are able to proliferate each turn. Pentad Prism is an artifact that effectively produces mana when you proliferate.
Max_Hammer on Instant Lottery
2 years ago
I have some land suggestions for you! Not all of them are great, but some of them could be pretty snazzy.
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Vivid Grove, Vivid Meadow, Vivid Marsh and Vivid Creek are all any color lands that just need you to proliferate every once in a while.
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Peat Bog, Hickory Woodlot, Saprazzan Skerry, Remote Farm, and Throne of Makindi are all two-for-one mana sources, so long as you proliferate.
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Saltcrusted Steppe, Dreadship Reef, and Calciform Pools are all dual color storage lands and could all be big pay offs late game.
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Novijen, Heart of Progress, Hall of Oracles, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, Animal Sanctuary, Tyrite Sanctum, Nesting Grounds, Llanowar Reborn, Gavony Township, and Karn's Bastion are all just cards that relate to tokens on your creatures.
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Hostile Hostel Flip lets you get a big, mean creature in exchange for sacrifices one small dude.
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Crawling Barrens can get activated once, forgotten until someone doesn't have blockers, then swing with an absolute tank.
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Fountain of Cho, Icatian Store, Subterranean Hangar, Bottomless Vault, Rushwood Grove, Hollow Trees, Saprazzan Cove, and Sand Silos are the same as the above, but inarguably worse. Idunno, could be even snazzy late-game, but like, ehhh, nah, probably not.
carpecanum on Chicken of the Sea
3 years ago
Aquitect's Will to replace Convincing Mirage probably. I have also had good luck with Launch and Octopus Umbra .
In order to get your boss out before blockers exist it helps to get her out on turn 2. Saprazzan Skerry and Svyelunite Temple are some of the only cards that can do that.
Other people often go voltron so Grip of Phyresis hurts them and helps you.
This is one of my favorite commanders. The amount of ramp from Thada is amazing and exiling combo pieces is just as useful. Try to steal Double Strike equipment early and exile two artifacts at a time, or artifacts that double triggered effects.
TriusMalarky on Dime-store Derevi (Competitive, Budget $100!!)
3 years ago
0rc ah yeah, I did miss the rogue-jank angle being incredibly effective. I've actually won several games with such a strategy myself.
I personally like playing high power with a budget, but I give my self a little larger budget as I dislike having to deal with tapped lands.
Might I suggest Compost , Verity Circle , and Insight as well? I've seen Circle just act as Rhystic Study against one or two green players, but I haven't tested the other two yet(they look amazing tho). Also, if you can find the budget, Root Maze is god tier when you're trying to use high budgets against people.
Also Yavimaya Coast , Sungrass Prairie and Skycloud Expanse might still be cheap enough. I also really like Hickory Woodlot , Saprazzan Skerry or Remote Farm if you can reliably flicker/proliferate, although that might not be on the menu here.
Quick edit: Compost and Insight look a little bit pricey for the $100.
king-saproling on Doom Proliferate. REALLY NEED HELP!!
3 years ago
You might like these: Gilder Bairn, Gyre Sage, Astral Cornucopia, Coalition Relic, Empowered Autogenerator, Gemstone Array, Pentad Prism, Crystalline Crawler, Druids' Repository, Iceberg, Kyren Toy, Dreadship Reef, Mage-Ring Network, Saprazzan Skerry, Hickory Woodlot, Peat Bog
VampDemigod on Land Interaction
3 years ago
The only things I can think of are Karn's Bastion combined with either Blast Zone or Hickory Woodlot/Saprazzan Skerry. These aren’t super combos, but this is what you get when you try to find land-only combos. The Vivid cycle would also work with the bastion but isn’t better than dual lands in a 2 color deck.
A quick note: These combos are not super useful. The first pays 5 to avoid paying 3 (counting the land tap as 1 mana), and the second...I just realized it doesn’t really work well in your deck. So both of them are really only useful if you need proliferate anyway.
Other than the above, the only combo I can think of is the Tron lands.
Caerwyn Should this be in the deck help forum? (Not trying to be rude OP, I’m just @ ing Caerwyn so he can move this if it’s needed). :)
Savage1988 on Nicky B and his Pro-Life Posse
4 years ago
TriusMalarky Awesome, thanks for thinking along! I like these nitty-gritty disussions.
Re: tapped lands suck
First off: My current tapped-count is at 6 (wilds, terramorphic, necro, path, vivid x 2) - I guess you could count 2 tango and 2 checklands for 0.5 tapland each, bringing our total to 8. With 37 lands I actually think the odds are pretty decent that I can run T1 tapland, T2 untapped land, enabling my 2cmc ramp spells and going from there. I'm therefore not sure this is all too bad, but a bit more in depth:
Crumbling Necropolis and Path of Ancestry provide all my 3 colors all the time, this is good enough to justify entering tapped.
The idea behind Vivid Creek and Vivid Marsh is that they're lands that function as 3c lands most of the time (especially during set-up), and with proliferation going all of the time. It's also possible to use them without removing counters if you're using them on ramp for example, so it's not like they always deplete. I agree the tapped clause is a real cost for something that's not guaranteed, and I could be convinced they're not as great as I think they are, but I think they'd do OK.
I agree Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse aren't the best. I have thought about replacing these with tapped duals, but those don't help out my tango / check lands. It's very possible regular basics are better here though.
Re: Saprazzan Skerry, Peat Bog and Sandstone Needle
Awesome suggestion. They're more powerful than the vivid cycle for sure and, don't get me wrong, providing 2 mana as a land is amazing but:
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they're not basics
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they come into play tapped
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they don't fix my mana
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they end up literal dead really quickly if i don't find a proliferation piece (not having played the deck, this concerns me the most)
I'm tempted to try them because when it works it's amazing, but I don't think they're a slam dunk except for when you're in magical christmas land. I need to think about the times when the deck's not firing on all cilinders more than when everything's already going great (i.e. i have time to proliferate). If it turns out that i easily proliferate all the time i'll add them asap.
Re: Ramp and artifacts
OK:
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Chromatic Lantern is out for Rakdos Signet
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Commander's Sphere is out for Talisman of Indulgence or Fellwar Stone - which would you prefer?
This gets me to 4 signets, 3 talismans, chalice, prism, sol ring, that's 10 ramp < 3cmc. Adding cornucopia and relic gives me 12 which should get me one in hand roughly 60% of the time (almost 90% if you count the free mulligan as 7 extra looks) - which is great. Looking at my curve most of my business happens at 4cmc, so getting there asap is key.
Hard disagree on Throne of Geth. Have you played with this card? (I haven't.) It seems I'll have some (maybe even a lot of) spare artifacts lying around, which makes this repeated, instant speed proliferation. Absolute worst-case you can sac it to itself. I'd even argue this is very efficient (and cheap), even though the resource cost for using it is different. It seems like a great thing to copy with something like Saheeli, Sublime Artificer too.
Lithoform Engine may be inefficient, but doubling proliferate triggers or god-forbid planeswalker ultimates is simply too spicy not to run. You could be right but if this isn't the home for this card I'd like to find out.
I have to agree on Solemn Simulacrum - it's too expensive for the deck and doesn't really do much other than provide generic value. I think I'll cut this for another walker, maybe I'll try Jace, Cunning Castaway for the memes.
Thanks again for you time, I look forward to your reply
TriusMalarky on Nicky B and his Pro-Life Posse
4 years ago
Also, Vivid lands suck. Use Saprazzan Skerry, Peat Bog, and Sandstone Needle instead. With proliferation they are basically 2-mana lands, easily making up for the etb tapped clause.