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Fyndhorn Elves Discussion
5 days ago
Hey, one drop green mana Elves are really good, a big reason to play Elves. They aren't just ramp with Lathril they're also fuel for her activated ability when you don't need them for ramp and lets you get more Elves onto the battlefield quicker.
- Elves of Deep Shadow: can tap for black mana which is helpful with a lot of Forests.
- Fyndhorn Elves
- Elvish Mystic
- Llanowar Elves
- Arbor Elf: combos with Elvish Guidance when it's enchanted to a Forest.
- Birchlore Rangers: lets you tap Elf tokens the turn they're created to make mana, even black mana.
Staff of Domination does everything as a mana sink for Elves and can be an enabler for Lathril to be a win condition. With Staff you first make infinite green mana by tapping and untapping one of Archdruid, Marwyn(with 5 or more power), Priest of Titania, Circle or Wirewood Channeler. When you have infinite green mana then Staff is the mana sink to draw and cast enough Elves to control 10 or more. When you have 10 or more Elves then Staff can be the mana sink to repeatedly untap Lathril and each one the 10 Elves as the win condition.
Quest for Renewal is another enabler for Lathril and 10 Elves to be win condition. When Quest has four counters which is not difficult especially with more mana Elves, you can untap all creatures you control during each opponents turn. With Lathril each opponent loses 10 life on each player's turn, resulting in all opponents losing 40 life in one cycle of all player's turns if you have three opponents.
Chord of Calling is a helpful instant creature tutor since can tap Elves to help to pay for it's convoke, with enough Elves it's a free spell to cast and it puts the creature you search for onto the battlefield. It has nice interaction with Elf tokens since can tap them to convoke the turn they're created. With Chord get Ezuri or Miara, Thorn of the Glade in response to removal, get Archdruid so you can tap him on your turn, get Magistrate so you can tap her on your next turn, get Varragoth so you can attack with him on your next turn, etc.
Patriarch's Bidding is among the most powerful tribal spells for quick recovery. For five mana it reanimates all Elves in your graveyard. Play a Regrowth just to have another potential Chord or Bidding or recur any other card.
An area to consider improving to help with competitiveness is the manabase by upgrading to Golgari dual lands that ETB untapped.
- Undergrowth Stadium --> Foul Orchard
- Llanowar Wastes --> Golgari Guildgate
- Overgrown Tomb --> Jungle Hollow
- Unclaimed Territory --> Darkmoss Bridge
- Twilight Mire --> Cabal Stronghold
- Woodland Cemetery --> Skemfar Elderhall
Cabal Stronghold only works with basic Swamps and there's only 9 here which is not enough to really get much if any ramp making it consistently only a colorless source of mana.
Some cards to consider cutting: Blightbeetle, Mana Bloom, Terramorph, Serpent's Soul-Jar, Return Upon the Tide, Masked Admirers, Wild Pair, Golgari Guildmage, Korozda Guildmage, Rhys the Exiled, Blanchwood Armor, Dowsing Dagger Flip, Harvest Season
If Blightbeetle is tech in your playgroup than nice, but if it's not then it looks out of place. Most if not all mana ramp sources can come from actual Elves instead of other sources like Mana Bloom or land ramp like Terramorph. I would even play one drop mana Elf or Farhaven Elf over Cultivate or Harvest Season.
Serpent's Soul-Jar is not a good card, exiling an Elf when it dies is not a may you have to do it and hoping to be able to cast many Elves later, one at a time with Jar is not going to consistently happen. Instead most if not all your exiled Elves will be stuck in exile for the rest of the game because Jar will be destroyed or removed another way.
Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
Hey, well done on a budget, nice foil Goldspan and SL Dreadbore :)
Consider more ramp with Korvold? More one and two drop ramp sources:
Korvold is powerful as Commander when playing lots of ramp since it helps to cast him faster and then that ramp can fuel his sacrifice. This makes playing lots of redundant ramp actually a strength.
Animation Module + Ashnod's Altar + Korvold is a combo to draw as many cards as you want, make Korvold huge, make as much colorless mana as you want. Without the combo Module is a nice repeatable source of tokens for sac fodder because of Korvold.
Add Pitiless Plunderer to create tons of treasures. Plunderer and a different sac outlet such as Viscera Seer or Goblin Bombardment could replace Ashnod's Altar since it only costs 1 mana (1 treasure) to make a Servo with Module. Bombardment is an excellent low CMC budget sac outlet.
Ramunap Excavator lets you abuse lands as the permanent to sac with Korvold. Caustic Caterpillar and Seal of Primordium are upgrades for artifact/enchantment removal spells because they can sac themselves as well as be saced at instant speed. Plaguecrafter is a nice creature removal effect in multiplayer Commander who sacs himself.
Prossh, Skyraider of Kher as the high end has synergy with Korvold. It's a sac outlet and it makes Kobold tokens to sac. Farseek is an upgrade for Rampant Growth because you have Overgrown Tomb and Stomping Ground. Harrow is an upgrade for Cultivate because you sac a land to cast it.
If interested I offer more advice including suggestions of cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
3 months ago
Hey, well done with your casual version of Lathril.
Consider one drop mana Elves especially Elves of Deep Shadow ? Shadow can make black mana to cast Lathril. These Elves give a big advantage for the tribe with ramp and when they aren't being used for ramp use them to get counters faster on Quest, with Lathril's tap ability or just have more Elves for Priest/Archduid, etc.
Llanowar Wastes , Unclaimed Territory , Necroblossom Snarl , Temple of Malady , Tainted Wood are some budget land upgrades. These could replace Swamps, Shimmerdrift Vale , Jungle Hollow and The World Tree . Undergrowth Stadium , Overgrown Tomb , Twilight Mire , Gilt-Leaf Palace , Woodland Cemetery and Wirewood Lodge are some expensive price land upgrades.
Good luck with your deck.
4 months ago
I've been playing elves for some time in both commander and modern, so I was excited to see Lathril spoiled. If I didn't already have a tricked out Ezuri, Renegade Leader deck I'd definitely be building this, because the only thing better than playing mono-green elves is playing green-black elves! I am a bit surprised that you are missing some elf staples such as Llanowar Elves , Fyndhorn Elves , Wood Elves , Elves of Deep Shadow , Farhaven Elf , and Springbloom Druid . These cards may seem boring, but they give you incredible acceleration, and you can also definitely justify dropping your land count a bit because they'll ramp you early and grab your lands for you from your deck. You also really don't need any of the mana rocks other than Sol Ring , they don't synergize with elves' game plan. I'd also heartily recommend Elvish Guidance , and an often-overlooked card that turns one of your existing lands into a Gaea's Cradle but which costs less than a dollar in real-world money. Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip does this as well, but it is more well-known and more expensive. For board wipes I'd recommend Kindred Dominance , which blows everyone else's stuff away while leaving yours intact, and Ezuri's Predation , which was recently re-printed and is now pretty cheap to pick up, as it will likewise leave your elves intact while giving you a bunch of tokens and destroying most of your opponent's stuff. I'd also commend your inclusion of the fabulous new card Haunting Voyage . This card is sheer gold for tribal decks in black!
4 months ago
If you want to make it more competitive, it might not be sexy, but the first and most important thing imo ist to lower the mana curve: For every card, ask yourself if a cheaper card exists that does about the same.
1-Mana Mana Dorks over more expensive stuff. they also fuel Meren really early, which really gets her going
Golgari Findbroker - too expensive. Meren does, that already
Zulaport Cutthroat - the deck doesn't look like it wins via this, so you don't need it
Blood Artist - same
Syr Konrad, the Grim - same - maybe I underestimate the chip damage from these but I really dislike these Cards, because the don't do anything unless they stay araound for a long time. If you only deal 20 damage to the table with blood artist style cards, which seems generous, you still don't win.
I would rather have a more reliable win condition, a combo to end the game asap or a really powerful value engine, that gives you the staying power, paired with a bit of stax, Mindslicer comes to mind, while you get some kind of beatdown (I like Creakwood Liege , Craterhoof Behemoth with a bit of a board also kill one to two people quite quick) or stuff like a few Kokusho, the Evening Star or Gray Merchant of Asphodel triggers.
Nature's Claim - my pet card
4 months ago
I'm not sure why Fyndhorn wasn't initially in here, but its as a good as a land in this deck.
While we already have most of the best tutoring green has to offer here, we added the last missing piece. One often overlooked aspect of Elves is that they have incredible toolbox properties, so being able to grab what we need cheaply is great. By cutting two forests we are down to 30 % land, which is what we would run in modern and is a great benchmark for lands. We've got lots of ways to grab our lands in the deck, so we shouldn't miss them too much.
One thing that is really hard to come by in mono-green is board wipes, so I'm really pleased that they reprinted this recently. In theory Praetor's Counsel is good because board wipes are the bane of our existence and this gives us a way to recover, but in reality if we get wiped we'll never be able to pay the mana cost. Its better to just play conservative and use Ezuri's 2nd ability to protect out pieces, and cards like Eladamri to protect him.
Yet another Elf Lord that pumps our whole team and gives us more ramp to boot? Give me more. As for Drove, we have other ways to make one thing big, and while this card has never been bad its never been exciting either. Jagged-Scar Archers gives us crucial anti-flying tech when we need it for one less mana, and while it lacks hexproof, we'll be happy of our opponents waste removal on archers and not one of our more important cards. Timberwatch Elf and Immaculate Magistrate give us flexibility in combat that is far better than the obvious threat drove represents.
While giving non-green decks a forest to enable a forest-walk kill is cute, this is somewhat situational, and we have lots of other ways to get through with the damage we need. Warmaster just such incredible value for the same mana that this change seems to be a no-brainer.
While offering is a good card, giving our opponents blockers just doesn't suit us in this deck. Ambush helps only us at instant speed with the creature type we want. Its an improvement on Elvish Promenade that absolutely deserves a spot.
4 months ago
I think Kodama of the East Tree ist a powerful card from Commander Legends.
Suggestions for ramp are Three Visits and more 1-Mana mana dorks like Birds of Paradise and Fyndhorn Elves , just so get out faster. you then might have enough 1-toughness creatures to justify Skullclamp , which is an awesome draw engine and uses your creatures in the late game. My Nissa Deck is a bit more focused on lots of mana real early, without any beatdown plan, but maybe you get some ideas.