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Saprazzan Cove
Land
Saprazzan Cove enters the battlefield tapped.
Tap: Put a storage counter on Saprazzan Cove.
Tap, Remove any number of storage counters from Saprazzan Cove: Add (Blue) to your mana pool for each storage counter removed this way.
DreadKhan on Sauron, The Dark Lord Commander Deck
9 months ago
I feel like this deck should look pretty hard at Relic of Sauron, it's one of the best mana rocks for a Grixis deck, it also offers card draw and a discard outlet when you don't need the mana. I also feel like you might want more ramp, but I'm not sure I'd shave the land count too much further. I do have much higher average MV decks with similar land counts, they tend to run a lot of ramp though!
I've always liked the idea of evasive Changelings in this deck, the best being Changeling Outcast, but Mistwalker is also good, Mothdust Changeling less so but still interesting, evasion is really good on an Army in here. Taurean Mauler might be worth throwing in too, any of these is infinitely better than trying to use a token as the base for your army. Amoeboid Changeling can make any creature an army (to trigger Sauron). You might even try Maskwood Nexus, you can always choose not to wheel your hand away if you're happy with it (could be an issue if you're getting in with several armies in a turn).
Since Sauron discards your hand before he draws a new one you might want to look into some recursion effects, Black is very good at that kind of thing. Sheoldred, Whispering One is a nice easy-button recursion card that also hassles your opponents, but she is slow and a ton of mana, but you can reanimate her with something like Animate Dead or Reanimate. Since Sauron can make you a new token whenever someone casts a spell (if you don't already have one) you could use sacrifice based recursion effectively, Hell's Caretaker could do some work. These are just a few low hanging fruit, if you need a bunch more (or cheaper ones) I could probably rattle off more.
With this much built in discard you might look at the better Delve cards, Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time come to mind immediately, both are pretty good card draw if you don't have to pay any generic mana in.
Mask of Griselbrand can work well as a draw source, it also gives two useful abilities for an Army. Not sure if this is too out there, but you could try Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep and Shizo, Death's Storehouse, if you make an Army your Ringbearer it becomes Legendary, meaning these lands don't just help Sauron (but making Sauron unblockable is inherently good in a deck like this because he has 7 power and he's a 3 hit kill). Fear from Shizo is probably better than First Strike in most metas, but First Strike is a very useful effect. Rogue's Passage is a nice budget card that can let Sauron or an Army get in each turn. I really have enjoyed using Scavenged Brawler, it would be very good with your Commander (if he can get in twice he can kill someone, regardless of their life total), but it'll also be useful with a good sized Army token, those key word abilities are pretty sweet in my experience. Dauthi Embrace is a nifty old card that can be very sneaky, you can use it to help opponents get in, not just to protect your creature from blockers. If you plan to attack and are in Red you might benefit from Berserkers' Onslaught, double strike on your entire board can be a very powerful effect.
If you want a way to protect Sauron from most board wipes, I really love Gift of Doom, this gem of a card can be cast as a Morph for 3 mana, after which you can sacrifice a creature to attach the aura to a creature (note that this method doesn't target the creature it attaches to, so you can get around Shroud on your creature) at literally any time you have priority iirc. It's also not a spell or ability, so you can use it in response to something with Split Second. Indestructible is very good, but if you can get Deathtouch on a creature with trample it only takes 1 point of damage to 'destroy' any creature (regardless of whether or not it dies), the rest goes over, so it has great synergy with Scavenged Brawler (and other Trample sources). You can always cast it for 5 mana, and it's not a terrible card in that form, but the Morph effect is one of the best ways to protect an individual creature (or to turn your opponent's block attempt into a blood bath).
Finally, Mercadian Bazaar, Subterranean Hangar, and Saprazzan Cove are my spiciest ideas for a deck like this, I will take no offense if you laugh at them, but you might be surprised by what they can do in a deck with a 6 mana Commander. I use the first two as well as two Fallen Empires storage lands (which I wouldn't encourage you to use unless you want gray hair) in my Rakdos deck, I play them as ramp cards, and it's openly hilarious how useful they can be if you really want to cheese out a big Commander (or recast them repeatedly).
Hope some of this brainstorming is helpful, Sauron is a pretty strong Commander that attracts a fair bit of attention afaik.
Max_Hammer on Instant Lottery
2 years ago
I have some land suggestions for you! Not all of them are great, but some of them could be pretty snazzy.
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Vivid Grove, Vivid Meadow, Vivid Marsh and Vivid Creek are all any color lands that just need you to proliferate every once in a while.
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Peat Bog, Hickory Woodlot, Saprazzan Skerry, Remote Farm, and Throne of Makindi are all two-for-one mana sources, so long as you proliferate.
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Saltcrusted Steppe, Dreadship Reef, and Calciform Pools are all dual color storage lands and could all be big pay offs late game.
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Novijen, Heart of Progress, Hall of Oracles, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, Animal Sanctuary, Tyrite Sanctum, Nesting Grounds, Llanowar Reborn, Gavony Township, and Karn's Bastion are all just cards that relate to tokens on your creatures.
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Hostile Hostel Flip lets you get a big, mean creature in exchange for sacrifices one small dude.
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Crawling Barrens can get activated once, forgotten until someone doesn't have blockers, then swing with an absolute tank.
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Fountain of Cho, Icatian Store, Subterranean Hangar, Bottomless Vault, Rushwood Grove, Hollow Trees, Saprazzan Cove, and Sand Silos are the same as the above, but inarguably worse. Idunno, could be even snazzy late-game, but like, ehhh, nah, probably not.
tiffanyann on Unique Commanders
3 years ago
Oh God here we go.
Brine Hag WTF IS THIS
Dire Fleet Ravager YES.
Elaborate Firecannon MUST INCLUDE
Fathom Fleet ANYTHING
Forerunner of the Coalition COP DFR
Gyruda, Doom of Depths SHOULD WE DO ALL EVEN HAHA NO
draaien on Tatyova Moon Landing
5 years ago
I agree with pretty much all you are saying, was looking to cut some ramp in general to be honest cutting the signet seems like the best cut. In my testing i have noticed that 'small' ramp is ok but the deck really gets rolling once i have my 'big' ramp like Scapeshift or Splendid Reclamation so Boundless Realms seems to be perfect.
The Beastmaster Ascension combo sounds nice but i am probably gonna cut Sylvan Awakening in commander it seems pretty meh as it requires some additional set-up.
I very much agree with that tatyova needs protection but i would like that protection to be on theme so Sylvan Safekeeper is the card i am looking at for the moment, that being said even more protection sounds nice to be honest. The Soratami Rainshaper is pretty nice as well but just not enough.
I feel like you might be underestimating Retreat to Coralhelm it is amazing int this deck if i have some tap to put land in play card out as it allows infinite landfall. For that reason i am looking to add a Sakura-Tribe Scout aswell. With Ghost Town i can get infinite landfall triggers on my opponents end step. If i have any bounce effect i can get it whenever. With the Saprazzan Cove or the Rushwood Grove and the Stone-Seeder Hierophant it gives me infinite mana. At worst it allows me to have some psuedo card draw if i can't protect my commander. It is probably the best card in my deck at the moment. This might sound like magical Christmas land but I would say i go infinite with the card in about half of the games i play when playing new people as it is a bit of lesser known combo i think. When playing people who know the deck it gets targetted more than tatyova.
Stardragon on Boat Tribal
5 years ago
High Tide , Whelming Wave , Lingering Mirage , Eye of Nowhere ?, Coral Atoll , Treasure Cruise , Iceberg , Stinging Barrier , Thaumatic Compass Flip , Treasure Map Flip , Expedition Map , Chart a Course , Braidwood Sextant , Barbed Sextant (your ship need to navigate!) , North Star (Always a guide when lost.) , Beacon of Tomorrows , Water Elemental , Sea God's Revenge Drowned Catacomb (Ixalan pic), Tidal Bore , Sea Kings' Blessing , Drownyard Temple , Nephalia Drownyard , Rishadan Port , Dark Depths , Jwar Isle Refuge , Lonely Sandbar , Saprazzan Cove and River of Tears , Tidal Wave , High Seas , Capsize , AEther Tradewinds , Wind Sail , Thassa, God of the Sea i post this on your forum page do i figured it would be nice to have the on your deck page so you can look at this list and your deck without having to go back and forth
Stardragon on Need Help with a Boat …
5 years ago
Deadeye Navigator , Coastal Piracy , High Tide , Whelming Wave , Merchant Ship , Lingering Mirage , Steam Frigate , Eye of Nowhere ?, Borrowing 100,000 Arrows , Coral Atoll , Treasure Cruise , Iceberg , Stinging Barrier , Navigator's Compass , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Treasure Map Flip , Expedition Map , Chart a Course , Braidwood Sextant , Barbed Sextant (your ship need to navigate!) , North Star (Always a guide when lost.) , Beacon of Tomorrows , Water Elemental , Sea God's Revenge Drowned Catacomb (Ixalan pic), Tidal Bore , Sea Kings' Blessing , Drownyard Temple , Nephalia Drownyard , Rishadan Port , Dark Depths , Jwar Isle Refuge , Lonely Sandbar , Saprazzan Cove and River of Tears , Tidal Wave , High Seas these are not so much boat as nautical but most of boats in pic
Caerwyn on Amazing Card Art
6 years ago
Wesley Burt's Anguished Unmaking is one of the most powerful card arts I have ever seen. Sorin's pose is perfect--the way he cannot look at his creation, how he hangs his head in despair. How his mouth is slightly ajar with revulsion at what he had to do. The burning soul in Sorin's hand and on his blade. The blood on Avacyn's wings. The subtle hints of flame. The smoke as she becomes incorporeal. The cast down symbol of Avacyn in the lower left corner. Every detail on this card is perfectly designed to tell a tragic story, and make you truly feel the planeswalker's anguish.
Beyond that, I really enjoy the more classically medieval art found in some of the older sets--frankly, I think MTG's artists have been trying a bit too hard on the realism side of things, and would love to see a return to some of the more stylistic art of ancient days. In this older style, some notables are:
Quinton Hoover - Archangel, Feedback, Hymn to Tourach, Whispers of the Muse, etc.
Rebecca Guay - Bitterblossom, Embolden, Saprazzan Cove, etc.
NeNe Thomas - Drought, Aysen Highway, Underground River, etc. (Interestingly, Ms. Thomas has had quite a post-Magic career. Currently, she makes a number of lovely fairy figurines, prints, and puzzles. Contrary to her Magic art, they tend to be the more modern, realistic style. They are very well done, and well worth checking out).
DaringApprentice on MTG list of EDH Ramp Cards | last update: 30-05-22
6 years ago
Some that I didn't see in the list but I run include Bear Umbra, Chief Engineer, City of Shadows, Dowsing Dagger Flip, Etherium Sculptor, Foundry Inspector, Gemhide Sliver, Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip, Gyre Sage, Herald's Horn, Hickory Woodlot, Hollow Trees, Kiora, Master of the Depths, Krark-Clan Ironworks, Legion's Landing Flip, Mage-Ring Network, Manaweft Sliver, Myriad Landscape, Nature's Will, Nissa, Vital Force, Nissa, Worldwaker, Patron of the Orochi, Rushwood Grove, Sand Silos, Saprazzan Cove, Saprazzan Skerry, Sword of Feast and Famine, Teferi, Temporal Archmage, Training Grounds, and Urza's Incubator.