Planeswalker — Karn
+4: Target player exiles a card from his or her hand.
-3: Exile target permanent.
-14: Restart the game, leaving in exile all non-Aura permanent cards exiled with Karn Liberated. Then put those cards onto the battlefield under your control.
|Have (3)||gildan_bladeborn , , idobuttstuff|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Karn Liberated Discussion
3 weeks ago
For some reason, I thought of Karn Liberated for Colin Robinson... Love the idea (and the movie and show its based on). Good luck! ~BoS
1 month ago
Suncleanser is a card, that already can remove poison counters. From your enemies though, you can't save yourself. Solemnity and Melira, Sylvok Outcast will stop you from acquiring more, and Karn Liberated's ultimate should reset your poison count too.
I think things like this, that completely cancel out entire specific strategies, should be handled with care. Like cards that prevent gaining life. Like The Immortal Sun for planeswalkers. These things are powerful, and should be treated as such.
The only reason I see to print new ones, would be to solve a problem that infect poses, that can't be solved by cards we have (removal for the infect creatures, fog effects, etc.)
What I kinda would like to see though, is anti-proliferate. Removing 1 counter from any number of permanents and players, instead of adding 1. Which would work in fighting Infect, and be a very slow answer to planeswalkers, but just incidentally, not on purpose.
2 months ago
@lalalalala: it is definitely getting there. I am going to make some suggestions:
I know this is going to be like "wow now I am running the same Tron as everyone else" but Karn has always been one of my favorite planeswalkers and he is ideal in a list like this
I might run
1-2 All Is Dust
1x Blast Zone
(for the lands maybe drop a crossroad or two? test the deck and if you feel you are not getting lands consistently enough run 22 or 21, a lot of the TRON lists similar to yours run only 17)
Cards to Drop:
Conduit of Ruin: You can maybe be fine with 2 but 4 isn't necessary, I am honestly not a fan but it does at least fetch your big boys, but you may have enough dig with the Ancient Stirrings to drop it altogether. Wurmcoil Engine may be a better 6 drop
Titan's Presence: you may have enough creature removal with Kozilek's Return and Warping Wail. It also gives your opponents information about what you may have in hand. You could drop them to run other cards.
Set up your sideboard like this (for use with Karn)
3x Chalice of the Void: Seriously a good card, I was onto this long before it started getting put in Tron, maybe consider a 1 of in the main to, but basically it allows you to halt a lot of annoying decks in their tracks: affinity, infect, storm, they die to this card. I sided it in one game against an affinity player: played 1 for 0 then the next turn dropped another at 1 and he scooped.
1x Torpor Orb
1x Ratchet Bomb
1x Blightsteel Colossus: Martyr of sands is making a comeback
Maybeboard for the side
Hope this helps!
3 months ago
3 months ago
yeaGO: its a lot more arbitrary than you think. the computer can't possibly know all the interactions. it's not gonna know what the meta is, which matchups are favorable, or why a sideboard is a certain way, or that a player can use Cleansing Wildfire on Darksteel Citadel to ramp, or that i'm dropping Karn Liberated turn 3 with urza lands. in short, it's plenty arbitrary enough that new players shouldn't be relying on it.
3 months ago
Vow of Lightning, Titan's Presence, Scour from Existence, Oblivion Stone, Karn Liberated, Engineered Explosives, Walking Ballista, Universal Solvent, Crushing Pain, Firecannon Blast, Rough / Tumble, Unholy Heat
3 months ago
4 months ago
I've been playing monoblack in EDH for a while! So, I have some advice I can offer that I hope will help you out!
Land base: 35 should be enough, consider some utility lands: Maze of Ith Cabal Coffers (get it while it is cheap!) maybe some land destruction like Field of Ruin, Wasteland, Ghost Quarter, Strip Mine, etc. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx Temple of the False God Cabal Stronghold Castle Locthwain Rogue's Passage
Equipment to boost your general:
Sword of War and Peace, life gain and protection Sword of Light and Shadow, recursion and protection Sword of Hearth and Home, protection, blink your ETB kill a guy creatures, ramp Sword of Feast and Famine, expensive, but super good Lashwrithe: ouch Vorpal Sword: haha double ouch Blackblade Reforged Sword of Truth and Justice Sword of the Animist
I might try to add a few more win cons in your creature base
Ramp and utility suggestions
Bolas's Citadel: super good but can be rough if you aren't gaining a lot of life Caged Sun: super good ramp and works when your opponents tap Skyclave Relic: better than darksteel ingot Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools: good for draw and blockers Grief: hand control Thought-Knot Seer: hand control Ob Nixilis Reignited: stayed in my chainer deck for a while until Tevesh came along
Grim Tutor and Mastermind's Acquisition over diabolic tutor (depends on you play group if they allow a "wish board," some don't, I run acquisition but may pick up a grim tutor for groups not okay with it)
I might lose some of the instant speed removal for:
Some general removal as monoblack suffers from inability to handle certain types like enchant and artifact:
Tattered Mummy: Not that good, more consistent ways of grinding out damage Skyclave Shade: Bloodghast is better 1x Skeletal Grimace: I get the point, but there are better cards 1x Underworld Dreams: I am iffy on this one, Painful Quandary and Polluted Bonds may be better or good additions to complement it. The entire instant pool save hero's downfall and malicious affliction, there are better killspells Expedition Map: really only useful for setting up tron or land combos Liliana, Waker of the Dead: Liliana Vess works better
The True Meaning of Death and Taxes: this is my chainer death and taxes reanimator list, check it out for suggestions, I have a lot of cards in the maybeboard I have considered and even used at one point that may spark some ideas.