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It That Betrays
Creature — Eldrazi
Annihilator 2 (Whenever this creature attacks, defending player sacrifices two permanents.)
Whenever an opponent sacrifices a nontoken permanent, put that card onto the battlefield under your control.
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It That Betrays Discussion
3 days ago
So mine is definitely It That Betrays + Phyrexian Obliterator. I got it together turn 7 once and wiped my opponent's entire board. He actually conceded to stop me from destroying everyone else with his stuff. However, I want to hear from y'all. What's your favorite combination with Grusilda, Monster Masher?
5 days ago
I'm going to say stick to Rakdos, Lord of Riots. The other commanders are good, but why not run Rakdos and play It That Betrays on turn 5? Throw in a couple cards like Butcher of Malakir and Malakir Cullblade to compliment the "Annihilator" ability and you're set to go.
2 weeks ago
True, I was thinking more for the cost reduction then the fetch. Also, It That Betrays could be good, considering you have Ulamog and Kozilek
2 weeks ago
Ok, I would first off ditch Myojin of Seeing Winds and add in Maelstrom Wanderer , I also swapped out rakdos signet for brain freeze - and I am considering swapping It That Betrays for Rise of the Dark Realms / Necromantic Selection / Grave Betrayal
1 month ago
Okay, played 1v1 versus Sheoldred, the Whispering One commander deck.
Game 1): Landed a Necrogenesis early on in the game and took out vast swaths of his recursion and wincons. Very competitive player, and was able to sneak a handful of threats in from the graveyard when I didn't quite have enough mana to exile all that had been put in. He had a mirage mirror that copied one of my token beasts (which had 3x +1/+1 counters and a +1/+1 effect on my creatures. I'm thinking my two graveyard hate cards are not enough Pharika, God of Affliction and Necrogenesis. Leyline of the Void and similar cards might be essential to disrupt graveyard insanity. I lost two non-games because of him putting creatures into his graveyard and then putting It That Betrays onto the field.
Game 2): He got a turn 2 win by putting It That Betrays on the field from his graveyard on turn 2, swinging his turn 3, while I had 2 lands only in play.
Game 3): He landed an enchantment that made all lands only produce black mana, before I had any board presence.
Game 4): He was slower, I was producing requisite tokens to stay almost ahead of his commander sacrifice engine, I landed a Grave Pact, but still his graveyard recursion and creature sack proved deadly.
Having seen several other players, in multiplayer commander, use graveyards to utterly ruin opponents, I think I need to add more protection from those.
1 month ago
While I do like a lot of the combos & the cards you've packed into this deck, I think this deck still has quite a few weaknesses:
1) How do you deal with commander hate? i.e repeated destruction (aside from re-casting it and Sylvan). If you don't have Mazirek, I don't think this deck will go anywhere.
2) Still needs more tutors; your combos are great but I don't know how reliably you'll get them with Sidisi/Razaketh/Diabolic (did I miss something?). How about Protean Hulk, Defense of the Heart or Tooth and Nail? You could always tutor up a combo like Mycoloth + Sylvan Safekeeper or It That Betrays and Sheoldred. Though I know this deck likes it slow and steady, you could also go off on a chain such as Defense of the Heart / Tooth & Nail -> Protean Hulk + Sidisi/Razaketh, sacrifice Hulk -> tutor for Animate Dead (to recur Protean later), protean trigger to tutor any combo 6cmc, Animate Dead the protean, Sacrifice it, grab an Eternal Witness to get your Animate Dead back, rinse and repeat-> Razaketh/Tutor/Sac for Deathrender or Ashnod's Altar -> Razaketh/Tutor/Sac for any creature you want onto the battlefield, starting with token generators (Abhorrent Overlord or Hornet Queen, and sacrificing tokens for mana/tutor and cast all of your colorless artifacts. Akroma's Memorial and Craterhoof Behemoth = GG! It might cost you 20 life or so but it sure will be fun (for you)!
3) Weak to board wipes, takes awhile (unless you have good luck) to reach full potential. Things like bitterblossom just aren't as fun as cheating something like Abhorrent Overlord or Hornet Queen. Also try Living Death just in case someone wipes you.
I would also advise removing some of the weaker mana accelerators: Birds/Elvish Mystic/Deep Shadow and replace it with more....sac-related fodder because they feel pretty useless drawing it late-game.
Fun cards to consider: (Apologizes if already included)
It That Betrays, Pernicious Deed, Savra, Queen of the Golgari, Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder, Akroma's Memorial, Spore Frog, Carrion Feeder, Volrath's Stronghold, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, Hardened Scales, Walking Ballista, (control: Contamination, Bojuka Bog)
1 month ago
If the main idea is to reanimate creatures from your graveyard, I'm kind of confused why you're running Ulamog and Emrakul... not to mention multiples of them. The only card here that can successfully bring them back is Goryo's Vengeance. You might be better served by Eldrazi that are nearly as large but don't shuffle themselves away, such as It That Betrays and/or Void Winnower.
I also recommend you focus more on reanimating things quickly and aggressively - Entomb, Putrid Imp, Exhume and Dark Ritual will all help you ensure you get a giant eldrazi animated on turn one or two. Lastly, I can't recommend this enough - cut your deck down to 60 cards if you can!
1 month ago
What the what!
I misread Wave of Vitriol in a horrific way. It Hoses every single deck that gives me grief except Elves and interacts with nearly every majorly important card in my deck in some way. Looks like it might be time to put It That Betrays back in too.