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Leyline of the Void
If Leyline of the Void is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it in play.
If a card would be put into an opponent's graveyard, remove it from the game instead.
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Leyline of the Void Discussion
12 hours ago
Heya! I've been looking to make my own Nekusar deck a bit more consistent and less splashy, and it's evidently similar to your own experience.
My only question was why no Leyline of the Void anymore? I saw in the comment history that you had removed it but couldn't find the explanation. I know we've got similar answers in Rakdos Charm or Bojuka Bog, but did you just find it too slow?
Thanks for the inspiration, though! Always nice to learn from someone who's been fighting the evil fight.
1 day ago
Still that's like 3 card slots for a very costly board wipe. Personally I'm surprised I don't see things like Kederekt Parasite, Tainted Strike, Barbed Shocker, Paradox Engine, Capsize, on your list, as they all synergize quite well. I would also recommend, tossing some of the Talismans & Signets despite being cheap for other more reliable mana ramping such as Darksteel Ingot Dimir Cluestone, Rakdos Cluestone, Izzet Cluestone (as they can all be sacrificed for a draw, and their Keyrune counterparts, as they can be turned into a chump blocker in a pinch if needed.
Isochron Scepter imprinting either Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, Desperate Ritual, Pyretic Ritual with a Paradox Engine on deck = Infinite Mana, for redundancy even with mana rocks out, Paradox Engine + Mana rocks, makes buyback spells VERY useful, as once you've got enough ramp Capsize = Infinite bounce, and there a few others that become arguably equally useful, such as Fanning the Flames, Lab Rats, Mind Games, Mind Peel, Reiterate, Whispers of the Muse, just to give you a few ideas. Evincar's Justice can be viable here too, although with Evincar's Justice you need to be mindful that it damages you and your creatures too.
Brush with Death essentially works like Tendrils of Agony if you take the Infinite Black mana route, naturally if it's countered you can't buy it back, BUT if you're wanting some redundancies for a storm / life steal win condition, it's there.
Leyline of the Void is a must add for any competitive Nekusar, the Mindrazer deck. With the wheel package you're essentially exiling everything your opponents are forced to discard. Toss in a Helm of Obedience = Player targeted, Instant kill activation.
Also, I would definitely recommend keeping Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, specifically to prevent the self-mill, AND Leyline of Anticipation, and adding Vedalken Orrery for redundancy. You can easily create a soft lock & turn it into a complete hard lock with Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir and Knowledge Pool, and why more people aren't running Day's Undoing is a bit surprising, given the redundancy to prevent mill, especially if you've acquired the means to drop it at instant speed, even on your own turn, to kill a stack & end the turn.
Also, with proper ramping, Barbed Shocker is pretty amazing, especially since it doesn't need to deal combat damage to force the wheel, (any damage it deals will trigger it), just saying. Rogue's Passage is a pretty standard commander staple too.
Liliana's Caress, Megrim, Raiders' Wake are also all must haves. Especially since, Raiders' Wake, Barbed Shocker, Shocker, (unblocked) or a Robber Fly (if you can force them to block it), & a Rogue's Passage can win the game by themselves, if your Commander or an Underworld Dreams, Kederekt Parasite is out.
3 days ago
I love how you've refined the deck. It plays a lot more streamlined and consistent, so excellent job ncjhou.
1) I definitely agree with your choice of cantrips. Opt really helps smooth out your draw, and the scry is a definite bonus. Before Ixalan I used Censor (for cycling) but Opt is even better.
2) Alright, I'll be curious to see this deck transition from standard to modern.
3) I think I would switch out 4 Ammit Eternal to transition in 2 Death Barons and 2 Lord of the Accursed.
4) From my experience, Trespasser's Curse is actually worse than it seems. Against token spam decks, if you can get it out early enough, it does massive damage. But if you're drawing it in the later game, it's kind of useless. In the sideboard, I personally try to avoid cards that are only good at a specific point (that's why I hate Leyline of the Void and Leyline of Sanctity). But, at the end it's your decision whether to keep it or not.
5) I would probably agree, but I use Blink of an Eye rather than Consign most of the time.
6) I'll look into replacements for Vraska's Contempt, but my other two suggestions don't work in the colors. I normally use Dreadbore and Terminate, but those aren't in the colors so let me look into something else...but to be truthful, just bouncing a creature/planeswalker to their hand and countering it when it enters the battlefield normally work for me.
About the sideboard: Leyline of the Void and Leyline of Sanctity are good against certain types of decks. Fulminator Mage is very useful in the sideboard.
Otherwise, I have no other suggestions. Keep building and tweaking!
This deck could become very standard/modern competitive, so nice edits, ncjhou. -magicsheep
3 days ago
First of all when do you ever get 7 lands against mill? Second this is no worse than say Leyline of Sanctity against burn or Leyline of the Void verse dredge. WotC prints answers to decks all the time. Third Mill isn't a very competitive deck so it's not going to shake the meta up. Fourth the only viable decks for this are Infinite Turns which could use it as a 1 of or U/W Control which probably wouldn't use it at all. Lastly SEVEN Mana.
1 week ago
So, the deck has been performing quite well. After taking out into the meta I've made a few changes. Opts are out, more removal is in, and man do I love playing 4x Anger of the Gods.
But I still have 1 sideboard spot left. Once upon a time I was toying with including 3-4x Leyline of the Void, but it's too narrow and expensive. Not going down that route. I'll take my chances that Hollow One is the breakout degenerate deck of the summer and won't be around next summer. Humans is neutral to good, Affinity would probably be insane if I had experience in the matchup (seriously, I never see it). RG Tron is okay to bad, Eldrazi of any kind is awful, Burn is good, Storm is fantastic. Mardu Pyromancer I don't have a good feel for, but I think it would be okay to good if I could figure out the matchup. Jund and Control are both decent, but draw-dependent.
With all of that, Liliana, the Last Hope and Search for Azcanta Flip are my top considerations, with Stormbreath Dragon or possibly Goblin Rabblemaster as secondary options. I think I want another card to bring in against Jund and Control. But I really don't know. Any thoughts?
1 week ago
Sjorpha, thanks for the detailed response!! I definitely see your point about the 2/2 Leyline of the Void/Surgical Extraction split. I like Leyline because it only targets the opponent and it helps with devotion, so I'm going all in with 4 copies to increase my chances of starting with it.
1 week ago
Hi Megalomania, I've commented the the BG one, not the Grixis as I dont realy like the archetipe
I see you have 99 cards and Caustic Caterpillar may be usefull to resolve Rest in Peace and Leyline of the Void and it can be recasted by muldrotha. Otherwise I can think of Auriok Salvagers for infinite mana with LED. For now I can't think of any other good cards, the list is very well made, so I have to ask what aspect you want to improve. +1 for me!
2 weeks ago
Consider Cauldron of Souls and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed for creature recursion. You might also take a look at Lifeline (it benefits everyone, but it benefits you more). Leyline of the Void can remove your opponents benefits from Lifeline.