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- Exile target creature with power or toughness 1 or less.
- Counter target sorcery spell.
- Put a 1/1 colourless Eldrazi Scion creature token onto the battlefield. It has "Sacrifice this creature: Add to your mana pool.
Warping Wail Discussion
4 days ago
Cutting Warping Wail . This card was just me trying to be cute but it isn’t good. You have to hold up two mana per turn and it costs a card, which slows you down by a decent amount. If you fall behind your opponents, warping wail won’t help you catch up like Boros Charm or Scapegoat which both use the opponents’ wraths against them. This is why you always see Teferi's Protection in EDH but never Envelop .
Bringing in Oathsworn Vampire . He is a lot like Bloodghast . Even when I can’t recast him he isn’t that much worse than some other 2 drops I run. I don’t run many lifegain enablers for him but I do run a lot of draw so I assume that every other game I will find an enabler and recast him. This means he will be pretty good on average.
5 days ago
You can consider adding in Warping Wail as some insta tech :P
1 week ago
Kitesail Freebooter , Sin Collector or Brain Maggot if you want more Tidehollow Sculler , Anguished Unmaking as a catch all removal witch exiles and the life loss shouldnt hurt as much with kaya, Liliana of the Veil if you end up playing bridge and Castigate , Settle the Wreckage , Warping Wail could be something to consider
1 week ago
i know it's fairly narrow, but Warping Wail which can be in any decks that aren't strong in counterspells is pretty great. low cost, and can do other things too.
3 weeks ago
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor: Thank you very much good sir, I appreciate the kind words!! Hopefully one day you join the dark side and embrace combos. :)
Winding Canyons : The deck is actually not starved of this ability. In fact, if you think about it, Command Beacon being on the chopping block is a really good indicator of it. The reason why is because getting rid of Yeva is never a factor because I always unload my hand in response to that removal and she is never out unless I have stuff worthy of being played. That land might be going out for Sunscorched Desert as a Plan D wincon since I don't need Shaman of Forgotten Ways to have haste for me to win at instant speed.
Polukranos, World Eater : My heart breaks. He was in the earlier iterations of the deck as a finisher with Kamahl, Fist of Krosa , unfortunatedly Somberwald Stag eliminated the need for both and it still kills Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir and Linvala, Keeper of Silence (which Polukranos, can't). Meanwhile, I already have Lignify , Song of the Dryads , and Beast Within to deal with them. Torpor Orb has no longer posed as much of a threat with the current state of the deck tbh.
Gaea's Herald : I truly wish I could replace the cat for herald, but as it stands, I play against 3 blue players and it sucks to see a secondary counter which happens quite often actually. Prowling Serpopard is definite security against that.
Once again, thank you very much and for the upvote!
DiverDown: Honestly, I was completely out of my element regarding an approachable budget list, cause I didn't know what that was exactly. Abzkaban was kind enough to point me in a good direction and I personally didn't know whether $200 was too much or not. I'm glad of the amount of people that came out of the woodworks to defend the $200 price tag. Made me feel like I hit the right number at $2 a card. I would love to see the lists you're referring to, btw! To return the favor and I am always down to see a new list. :D
I'm glad you enjoyed both variants of the deck, I worked obsessively long on it, that it is just a delight to read all the positive comments.
Thank you all!! :D
3 weeks ago
Oh I just saw you have Llanowar Elves in this list. I do not like the elves here because it is hard to cast them consistently enough with only 9 green sources, and they die very easily. Switch them for the Expedition Map instead of the Warping Wail .
3 weeks ago
The way mana ramp works with Urza's lands is not necessarily to play multiple lands in a turn, like Rampant Growth would do (only getting basic lands), but instead to makes your land draws so consistent that you can get all 3 Urza lands by turn 3 or 4 naturally (thus assembling "Urzatron"), unlocking 7 mana much earlier than usual. To that end, the best land-search cards for Urzatron are typically Sylvan Scrying and Expedition Map .
Unfortunately making room in your deck is now getting a little tight. I don't want to drop your land count because you have so precious few green mana sources to cast the land-finding cards in the first place. I would cut the Warping Wail entirely to make room for the Expedition Map if you choose to include it.
3 weeks ago
Hand disruption continues to be useful. One game i used it on turn one, removed a counter, allowing me to play Necropotence on turn 3 and dominate a game against two players. Next game necropotence was countered and I was the first one eliminated. Hand disruption would’ve saved me there.
Had a game where I held up mana for Warping Wail . Despite holding up the mana for three turns it did not slow me down drastically and I still won the game. Going to continue running it and Boros Charm .
I noticed that in a lot of games, lifeloss matters, especially when I get a late start and can’t kill opponents while they’re still durdling. I wonder if lifelink vampires like Gifted Aetherborn would be worth running.
Warping Wail occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%
All decks: 0.1%
All decks: 0.04%