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- Exile target creature with power or toughness 1 or less.
- Counter target sorcery spell.
- Put a 1/1 colourless Eldrazi Scion creature token onto the battlefield. It has "Sacrifice this creature: Add to your mana pool.
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Warping Wail Discussion
4 days ago
I dunno where you are getting 2500-3500 from. Eldrazi costs around 800-1000 tops.
Also Spirit Guides help the more powerful plays, as does Warping Wail.
5 days ago
You asked to be ruthless, so let's be then. You was warried about your BUG and Show and Tell MUs. Crucible of Worlds, Wasteland is nice combo in some decks, but not really fitting on mana hungry deck like Eldrazi Stompy. Crucible of Worlds is often do nothing, when opponent has basics or you don't have wasteland. Even when it does something it might be too slow and you might be better off by just beating with spaghetti. Sometimes it might win the game, if none of these problems occur and opponent doesn't have answer. Still I would rather go with something more synergistic with spaghetti stompy plan.
We can go down to 24 lands. Wasteland seems to provide least amount of utility, so let's go down to 3, now that we don't have Crucible of Worlds and with 24 lands we are less likely to trade Wasteland anyway.
2 slots now open in maindeck, add 2nd Umezawa's Jitte it's really good at killing small utility creatures and is the best way to beat Tarmogoyfs. Also move 1 Endbringer from side to main. I was first skeptical about Endbringer and thougt 6 mana is not worth it, but I've learnt 6 mana is well worth it. It can win against Ensnaring Bridge or Moat, can be put into play from Show and Tell to stop Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, pings annoying creatures away and when everything else fails, it can DRAW CARDS. We don't have too much card drawing luxury going.
For sideboard I would go something like this:
1 All Is Dust
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Pithing Needle
2 Ratchet Bomb
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
2 Warping Wail
2 Thorn of Amethyst
Leylines as gravehate, because they come down turn 0, are more difficult to answer and can shut down dredge.Damping Matrix hits our own stuf too, cots more and only does more than Pithing Needle against elves.
2 weeks ago
Coat of Arms is an interesting choice, but Aether Vial, Collected Company, and all of the Sliver Lords I am running have more synergy than Coat of Arms. It is a good card, and I run it in a Sliver EDH deck for sure, but I skip running Coat of Arms because opponent tribal decks can benefit from it. I get that some of my slivers can benefit my opponent in the mirror match up, but I can swap some of those in lieu of the slivers that only benefit my board state. Thanks for the suggestion.
I agree, Crystalline Sliver would be phenomenal in a sliver deck, however, it is not modern legal, so it doesn't quite make the cut for that reason, lol. Ultimately, i chose Spellskite, the pseudo-sliver in place for a little added protection.
Sliver Legion is a great card, hands down, however, it is incredibly slow to get out, in my current build, I can typically be dealing lethal damage on turn 4, a whole turn early. Sliver Legion, while a powerful lord, is a "win more" sort of card, it is in essence, the overkill for winning a match. Sliver Hivelord is another great card, but it's true functionality is less of a board wipe solution, and more of a longevity effect for the long drawn out matches. My solution for board wipes is Warping Wail. Now most people don't realize this, but most modern legal board wipes run at sorcery speed, and Warping Wail shuts them down. Now there are some instant ones, but they are usually very cost intensive, and by the time it becomes an issue, I am usually winning the game.
As for a budget Aether Vial, well, there really isn't a "budget option" for it. However, there are options. If you are running the Collected Companys, then you can sub the 4 Aether Vial for 4 Gemhide Slivers, which will give you a ton of ramp and fixing (you should already be running 4 Manaweft Slivers), which in an off hand way, fills the function of Aether Vial. Now, clearly, this method isn't nearly as effect as the vials are, but having the mana available to cast additional slivers, is ideal. It drops the cost of your land base a bit (you can spend less money on mana fixing lands), allowing you to go wider with more slivers, so you can have more board presence. Ultimately, if you are playing with friends, just proxy them until you can get them, because in all tribal decks, you always be able to use Aether Vials. If you are looking to compete with this deck, there is no real budget replacement for them.
I know that building competitive decks of this caliber is costly, I have built a few of them, but I do it at pace. This particular build, with a toolbox (a deck box of additional sliver related cards to help modify for a shifting meta) took me over a year to build. Now, I don't know what kind of resources or income you have, but scrimp and save, and you can get there. Check eBay for deals, check people's trade binders, let people know that this is a big want for a birthday/Christmas present, and don't waste money on cards that aren't for this deck. Talk to the owner of your local LGS, maybe you can work out a deal where you can do some work or earn some store credit if they have some in a case or binder for sale. I know from this end, it feels daunting, but if you stick with it, you can have a deck like this. In the meantime, proxy it out and practice. This deck does have a high learning curve, but it is a ton of fun to play.
I wish you the best of luck, and if you have a deck list that you want me to look at and offer you some feedback on (ie: budget alternatives and ideas), I'd be more than happy to take look and help you out. Thanks for the comments and the feedback.
3 weeks ago
It's a little counter-intuitive, but Gideon is actually one of the worst Planeswalkers for a Walker deck. He's phenomenal for midrange and top-end aggro, but in a controlling, grinding match like these make he's the easiest way to lose through over-extension. He doesn't draw you cards in any of his forms which is also a big no-no... I'd seriously consider moving the focus away from him if you want a competitive walker deck. Also, you have 5 non-Gideon Walkers, two planeswalkers is not overwhelming the enemy.
For this deck Authority of the Consuls is better than Thalia, Heretic Cathar because of how low your creature count is. The opponent is practically guaranteed to have dead removal in their hand for your creatures and so she'll die far more than she lives. Not everyone will think to bring in enchantment hate so you'll get more use out of it in my experience.
3 weeks ago
to be fair, the /X slivers are easily the most powerful slivers you have access too, so it feels like a waste to avoid them, by extension Sedge Sliver and means losing out lifegain, removal, mana, and +1/+1 counters, and makes it harder to cast the 5c lords, but thats your call.
Anyway, as mentioned above bant is your only real option, red has some useful slivers left, but they are ability slivers and the splash for Blur Sliver or Two-Headed Sliver probably isn't worth it. so you may need to fill the gap with the any-lords Adaptive Automaton and Metallic Mimic
1 month ago
Baral, Chief of Compliance + Warping Wail. good 3 ways. 1 mana kill spell. 1 mana counter sorcery and trigger baral. or 1 mana make a scion to replace the casting cost, basically adding 1 to your storm count.
1 month ago
Look at the mana symbol produced by Llanowar Wastes, its just a , now look at the mana produced by, say, Westvale Abbey Flip, its a different symbol. Its almost like saying it produces [g] mana, which is called green mana. [c] mana is called colorless mana, where 'colorless' is just a word, like green or blue. If there was no difference, then what would the point be of creating a Wastes card, or adding the [c] symbol to cards such as Warping Wail or Reality Smasher or Kozilek, the Great Distortion, when you could just leave it as  mana cost for example, rather than complicating things by saying [5cc]. (i think the wiki says it best when it says ' "Generic" is a type of cost. "Colorless" is a type of mana' http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Colorless) All im saying is add some Wastes to your deck.
1 month ago
Apologies for another enchantment suggestion, but Doubling Season just came to my mind, and From Beyond is just a more stable source of 1/1 eldrazi, even if you only put in 1 or 2 of them. I also might say add a few Wastes, even if it is just 1 or 2, simply for Warping Wail, the eldrazi you use only add  generic mana, whilst warping wail uses [c] colorless mana, which are different things all together, and currently you have Westvale Abbey Flip outputting [c].