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|Commander 2017 (C17)||Common|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Common|
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, Sacrifice Nihil Spellbomb: Exile all cards from target player's graveyard.
When Nihil Spellbomb is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you may pay . If you do, draw a card.
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Nihil Spellbomb Discussion
3 days ago
4 days ago
Nihil Spellbomb for graveyard decks isn't really oppressive, most graveyard decks should expect some form of hate.
Scourglass works well with your artifact commander. I agree it might be too much for creature heavy decks, but it is a slow trigger. However 5 mana repeatable wrath is a bit much. Leave it as a maybe for now.
Dispeller's Capsule , for those pesky artifacts and enchantments your opponents play.
Glaring Spotlight to help you get in and also to deal with hexproof.
Orazca Relic for life gain and card draw
1 week ago
Leyline comes out straight away to deal with Dredge before it even gets going. Looking more into Relic of Progenitus and Nihil Spellbomb anyways as they can replace themselves so aren't dead cards in matchups where grave hate isn't needed. Probably some mainboard Collective Brutality to discard them would help too.
1 week ago
This is going to be a long comment, bear with me, but I still see too much of your old mimeo deck remnants in here that just don't belong. First and foremost, Muldrotha works primarily well with permanents - so you want to ideally be playing low cost planeswalekrs, creatures, enchantments and artifacts that you can replay from your graveyard. Having a little bit of mill is nice but you have a bit of unneeded stuff here - for example, you don't need extraneous spells such as traumatize, stitch together, dread summons, life/death, etc. With that you certainly don't need some of the higher end creatures such as Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger , Platinum Angel , Artisan of Kozilek , Deadeye Navigator and even Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon . Additionally you have some artifacts which make no sense, for example you don't need 3 haste enablers so cut Fleetfeather Sandals , Chromatic Lantern is kinda unnecessary and there are better 3 drop options, I think Mesmeric Orb just makes you more of a target than anything and you don't need to mill opponents, and Trailblazer's Boots adds nothing to the deck because you don't need evasion to win. Also, cut Windfall because all it does is fill your opponents graveyards and hand which is very counter to what you want. Windfall is really bad in this deck imo.
Cards to consider for addition -
Hope this helps
1 week ago
@killroy726, FormerBalloon, The problem with cards like Tormod's Crypt , Relic of Progenitus , and Nihil Spellbomb is both deck strategies can easily bypass these. Flash-Hulk can easily tutor out a Grand Abolisher which shuts down their abilities entirely, and Gitrog can always discard another land, or put a draw trigger on the stack to save their Dakmor Salvage just to resume the combo all over again.
@xaarvaxus, The Walking Ballista combo has been removed in order to run these hate cards, but I still note it in case if there are better cards that won't interfere with it. I did run Darksteel Mutation , but the Gitrog player would just start playing their full combo in one turn which bypasses the sorcery speed of Darksteel Mutation . To better effect I simply ran Nevermore naming The Gitrog Monster , but Nevermore would become awkward in games where The Gitrog Monster wasn't present, as Nevermore 's hate effect can really get a particular player to start hating you fast.
@xeratheenigma, I've considered cards such as Go for the Throat and Terminate , but holding up 2 mana every turn can feel like a serious drag and slows my board progression over time, so I would prefer to keep it to 1-mana instant speed spells if applicable. (Plus a lot of popular commanders utilize black anyway, but I agree that I'd like a card that had better range as it feels like a worse Pyroblast .)
Instead of Darkblast I run Molten Vortex as it's repeatable effect can bypass counterspells which is very helpful against counter-heavy decks that want to win through Laboratory Maniac , Azami, Lady of Scrolls , Arcum Dagsson and Edric, Spymaster of Trest . I've ran Barbarian Ring , Cabal Pit , and Scavenger Grounds , but the flux of graveyard hate easily kills threshold and holding up 2 mana and the Scavenger Grounds is a real pain. I'm on the fence about Faerie Macabre as the graveyard-hate effect feels too narrow against other decks. I might be more inclined to run Ghost-Lit Raider , but holding up 4-mana doesn't make it any better either. Leyline of the Void also feels gimmicky as a 1-of in a 100-card deck, as both combos can easily out-race me in playing it if it's not in my opening hand. I would prefer running Planar Void instead, but that card would ruin my Wayward Servant + Gravecrawler combo.
The Gitrog player in my play group doesn't own a Chains of Mephistopheles , but I'm fairly certain it's discard effect would trigger before the dredge trigger unless they have two Dakmor Salvage 's. Either way, it's discard effect by itself isn't an activated ability, so I question if using one to cycle through the deck this way would share the same un-deterministic qualities as using the discard phase. (And thus be frowned upon in tournament settings.)
1 week ago
Surgical is a great card against many decks in modern including Izzet Phoenix, Dredge, Goryo's Vengeance decks and even Tron - although it's probably better to try to beat them down and counter their stuff (thoughtseize the ulamogs though!). Leyline of the Void is pretty good too.
That being said it's an absurdly expensive card for what it does (should be a ~$10 card) and could see a price drop in the (distant) future if graveyard decks become less of a thing or it gets reprinted (at rare, I'd assume). There are decent alternatives if you're on a budget like Extirpate (better, in some circumstances), Nihil Spellbomb (more mainboardable if that's what you want) or even Tormod's Crypt . Additionally, due to its higher price (and also since it's a sideboard card) if you were thinking about acquiring them I'd almost look at getting other expensive cards you want instead (if any). Another JtMS, for example.
If you don't care about cost though then I'd get them (or leylines); it's good way to improve the board against some tougher match-ups.
1 week ago
In grixis colors id say discard shenanigans are a good idea... Surgical Extraction / Extirpate can get rid of all copies of Through the Breach and whatever creature they are cheating in. when Emrakrul goes into the GY.... Nihil Spellbomb / Leyline of the Void are other options.
1 week ago
2018-02-08 Deck Update
Added a Dredge and Mill Sub-theme to the deck after considering the . Im going to try this out and see how i like the changes
- Altar of Dementia
- Consuming Aberration
- Diluvian Primordial
- Gray Merchant of Asphodel
- Nihil Spellbomb
- Perpetual Timepiece
- Stinkweed Imp
- Golgari Thug
- Yavimaya Granger
Nihil Spellbomb occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0,03%
All decks: 0,03%
All decks: 0,01%