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Stalking Vengeance Discussion
1 week ago
Ashnod's Altar is an obvious upgrade for its great potential in synergies and also infinite combos like with Nim Deathmantle. I am waiting for a reprint for it to go back to 3$ as it was a year ago. I discarded the summoner cause it was too mana hunru, but with the altar it could certainly be VERY funny.
On the recurssion departmente I was certainly thinking about those 2 creatures. Whisper, Blood Liturgist has never proven its worth to me before but Hell's Caretaker was an option I was considering. The main reason I am not runnin the caretaker or Stalking Vengeance is because they didn't seem to go well with my board when I proxied them. Stalking vengeance was a 7cc 5/5 sitting on the board doing 1 o 2 damage at times.
Dictate of Erebos and Grave Pact are upgrades for the future for sure. They are amazing cards which I would love to run. So is the Whip of Erebos. Finally, Grenzo. That sure is a Chaotic Card and I like it. It doesnt have much synergies unless Shadows of the Past and Viscera Seer do there job, in which case it could be amazing. It ain't expensive either so certainly a fun adition to run.
All in all, thanks a lot for the suggestions. I will try adding the caretaker and when I eventually manage to get my hand on the altar, I will also add the Summoner since that combo had gone completely under y nose and it is fo damn funny.
1 week ago
Ashnod's Altar (it is about $5 for on in good shape) and Tilonalli's Summoner would be a fun combo. I think Hell's Caretaker and Whisper, Blood Liturgist could do some good work in this deck. Grenzo, Dungeon Warden could work. It has a high cmcsa but Stalking Vengeance is great. My Neheb, Dragon Shaman deck got a 5k deck down to one life.
I will say if you do end up with the money Dictate of Erebos (about $10) would be amazing in this deck.
2 weeks ago
Big smashy Naya decks can be a ton of fun! It kinda depends on what direction you want to take the deck, but if you're looking at the classic 'power 5 or greater matters' theme, here are some suggestions:
Remove: Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh Flip: This deck focuses more on casting big creatures, so the likelihood of flipping Chandra is very low. Firemane Angel: Very expensive for her effects. Better creatures and lifegain can be found. Gigantosaurus: Hilarious card, but the 5 green will be super hard to get in a three color deck. Legion Loyalist, Legion Warboss, and Ajani's Welcome: These cards are all geared towards a 'go-wide' playstyle that encourages lots of small creatures. That's not how Naya usually plays, and most of the rest of your deck isn't set up to support them. Light of the Legion, Swiftblade Vindicator, Dawn of Hope, Path of Discovery, Prodigious Growth, Urban Utopia, Bounty of Might, Flower / Flourish, Boros Keyrune, and Selesnya Cluestone: These are all cards that either don't mesh great with the rest of the deck, or are decent, but have cards that can usually do the same thing better.
Big Boyz: Meglonoth: Great power for 6 mana, and can really pump out damage both attacking and blocking each time around the table! Mycoid Shepherd: Pretty decent source of lifegain. Paleoloth: Graveyard recursion. Spearbreaker Behemoth: Gives your important stuff indestructibility! Spellbreaker Behemoth: Can absolutely wreck blue control. Woolly Thoctar: 5/4 for 3. Nuff said. Bull Cerodon: Really solid creature to keep bashing your opponent's with. Godsire: Can be hard to play, but will generate an insane amount of value if it stays in play. Stalking Vengeance: When your stuff dies, so do your opponents! Victory's Herald: massive boost to your field, especially with lifegain.
Mana Ramp: Gruul Signet and Selesnya Signet: Some of the best ramp for three color decks. Drumhunter, Exuberant Firestoker, Sacellum Godspeaker, and Sunseed Nurturer: Can be okay as ramp, while also synergizing with your theme. Mul Daya Channelers: can be either a 5/5, or help you ramp into one. Somberwald Sage, Beastcaller Savant, Birds of Paradise, Channeler Initiate, Chromatic Lantern, Commander's Sphere, Draconic Disciple, Llanowar Elves, Atzocan Seer, and Drover of the Mighty: All permanents with useful ramp abilities, some of which even have a few other potential synergies. Traverse the Ulvenwald, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Yavimaya Elder, Harrow, Journey of Discovery, Gift of Estates, Cultivate, Caravan Vigil, and Collective Voyage: Cards with varying effects that let you search up lands from your library.
Utility: Asceticism: Lots of protection for your board. Anger and Fires of Yavimaya: gives all of your creatures haste. Signal the Clans: Great tutor card for creature based decks. Loxodon Warhammer and Behemoth Sledge: Trample and lifegain on a stick. Domri Rade: Card draw, repeatable fighting, and a crazy ult. Deafening Clarion, Austere Command, Earthquake, Mizzium Mortars, Comet Storm, and Savage Twister: All have the potential to be near one-sided boardwipes.
Lands: Ancient Ziggurat: With a focus on creatures, this card is usually really useful. Command Tower: Should be in every commander deck. Naya Panorama and Jungle Shrine Kessig Wolf Run: Extra damage and trample. Contested Cliffs: Repeatable fighting for your beasts.
There are probably more suggestions I could make, and certainly not all of these cards need to go in. Just some different ideas for you to consider!
2 weeks ago
Thanks for all the responses so far. The suggestions are super helpful.
@WhichKing, no Purphoros, at least, not right now. I'm going pretty budget with this one, and its not a card I have.
@ZendikariWol, I do like Prowler's Helm, and have added it to my maybeboard along with Strata Scythe, Kitesail, and a few of the others. I'm teetering on Sundial of the Infinite. I like it, but I'm just not sure I want to go that rout...yet. I did have Tooth and Claw initially, but cut it for more equipment. It may go back in yet. Also, thanks for the note on Stalking Vengeance; I missed that entirely, so that's an easy cut. Warstorm Surge is coming to take its place. I'm on the fence about keeping Barrage of Expendables around. Skeleton Key is mainly in for the card draw, not the skulking ability. Good info on Browbeat and Sparring Collar. I'll cut the Collar for sure. I wasn't sure on Browbeat, but man, red needs card draw. But, I'll look into something else. Thanks for taking the time to look through all the equipment in Magic for this! There are a lot of really good budget options in there. When throwing equipment into this deck, I tried to make sure I was getting equipment with more than just a power/toughness bonus, and to get some other ability along the way, i.e., hexproof, trample, double strike, unblockable, etc.
@Heliogabale, I do like Basilisk Collar, and I may add it down the road. Deathouch is nice. I'm not running the spell cheapeners, mainly so I can run more equipment, and most of that isn't terribly high CMC anyways. Sure, it'd be nice to get it for free, and I'd do that in a build with someone like Sram, Senior Edificer, but for Valduk, I'm not as worried about it.
Thanks again, everyone. This was super helpful.
3 weeks ago
Vicious Shadows actually doesn't work (nor does Stalking Vengeance, and for the same reason), because when a creature (or in this instance a token) doesn't die when it's exiled. I would suggest Warstorm Surge instead. Which I just noticed was in the maybeboard. Speaking of cards in the maybeboard, Swiftfoot Boots is probably better than Lightning Greaves here because shroud makes Valduk untargetable for equip costs. This would normally not be a problem; just equip it to a different creature for 0 mana. However with a semi-creatureless brew like this you'd have to do all your equipping on the postcombat main phase.
I might suggest some of the human-based equipment from OG Innistrad; Avacyn's Collar, Bladed Bracers, Butcher's Cleaver, Heirloom Blade could be really cool (and you could run a human or two for good measure), Sharpened Pitchfork is nice, though first strike is kinda useless, Silver-Inlaid Dagger is AWESOME, and Slayer's Plate may get some work done.
Some generally good equipments include Champion's Helm for hexproof, Chitinous Cloak to force opponents to make tough blocker choices, honestly General's Kabuto may be worth is as the ultimate protection card, you could consider Kitesail for evasion, Konda's Banner would be great and pump your tokens (and yes it would give Valduk +2/+2), Kusari-Gama would be a serious 'don't block me or I fuck you' effect, Ogre's Cleaver is honestly insane, Pariah's Shield, though costly, more or less makes you untouchable, Pennon Blade is worth the cost, the classic Short Sword, Sigiled Sword of Valeron is dece, Skullclamp is OH MY GOD, Strata Scythe is equally insane, the swords are famously insanely powerful, Trusty Machete is okay, Vorrac Battlehorns is an easy way to win fast, and Vulshok Battlegear and Vulshok Morningstar are decent.
And yes, I did slog through every equipment in Magic history to find those.
Props to Heliogabale for some good ideas on cuts. I might add No-Dachi, seems a little overcosted (also it's worth noting Mask of Avacyn has the same mana specs for an arguably better effect), Skeleton Key is not going to do anything for very long, Valduk is probably going to be too big too fast to make use of first strike (@ Sparring Collar), Browbeat is 5 damage to an opponent for 3 mana. Realistically no one is going to let you draw 3 cards.
Sorry, this comment was a looong one.
1 month ago
2 months ago
Stalking Vengeance would be good with ashnod's altar, pump and fling. Have you considered extra combat rounds. I run Nemesis Mask and Breath of Fury, Combat Celebrant and Helm of the Host and Aggravated Assault in my Neheb, Dragon Shaman deck.
2 months ago
I would try to use Scapeshift its a nice spell to generate a lot of elementals and if you combo with Sylvan Awakening you can make a lot of damage out of nowhere and Purphoros, God of the Forge it's not a bad addition either. I would remove Nissa, Worldwaker,Rubblehulkand Stalking Vengeance.