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Well of Lost Dreams
Whenever you gain life, you may pay (X), where X is less than or equal to the amount of life you gained. If you do, draw X cards.
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Well of Lost Dreams Discussion
2 weeks ago
gflshade great question!
It kinda depends on the long term goals, so investing $40 in a good Boros mana base may be what you want, that way you can use the cards for other Boros/multicolored decks.
Besides mana base though, if I only had $40 to spend on this deck, I'd start with Recruiter of the Guard, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Enlightened Tutor, Sculpting Steel, and Steelshaper's Gift. All of these cards are great and most importantly can be used in almost any deck with these colors. Don't get something like Sneak Attack though because that's a splurge item :)
The deck is nice because the gimmick theme keeps the price down. Ball Lightning creatures are all 50 cents because they're pretty bad anywhere else haha
Most of the price comes from all the value cards like Sun Titan, Solemn Simulacrum, Well of Lost Dreams, and Feldon of the Third Path. That's nice because they're pretty solid cards and again, fit into many decks.
Hope some of this helps!
2 weeks ago
You're going to want to speed up the deck a little bit by removing 2 or 3 lands, and adding in a few more mana rocks as replacements. With 39 lands, you're probably going to feel mana flooded. Mind Stone, Fellwar Stone, Star Compass, Thought Vessel are good 2 cmc mana rocks, Commander's Sphere, Orzhov Cluestone are color fixing/cantrips later on in the game.
You probably want about 8 sources of card draw, currently you only have 3. Consider Sign in Blood, Night's Whisper, Read the Bones, Ancient Craving, Ambition's Cost, Promise of Power, Dark Tutelage, Necropotence. Cheap card draw will also help smooth out your land drops during the early game, and give you more gas later on in the game. Personally, I found Well of Lost Dreams to be too slow. Grave yard recursion is also card advantage: Phyrexian Reclamation, Chainer, Dementia Master
As for the deck itself:
What do you consider to be the main win condition? It looks like you're trying to go for a pillowfort strategy with life gain/drain, so you probably want some cards like Ghostly Prison, Windborn Muse, Sphere of Safety, Righteous Aura, Thaumatic Compass Flip to protect yourself even more. Lifegain still loses against commander damage, so you might also want some more spot removal: Royal Assassin, Dark Impostor
2 weeks ago
I run a token deck myself, and I use Boon Reflection in conjunction with Cradle of Vitality because it allows you to ramp up creatures to insane levels, especially with the amount of passive life gain. But you can also use it with Angelic Accord to ensure you hit 4 life gained per turn to get a 4/4 angel token.
That and with how insane it is with Elspeth Tirel means that you actually have enough lifegain in the deck to make Boon Reflection work. Especially if you're using something that gives all creatures lifelink, OR you can use it to double the amount of cards you draw with Well of Lost Dreams
3 weeks ago
I like the list man, but I can totally see some sweet upgrades for you (EVEN BUDGET ONES!)
I really like the Extort theme here, but since most extort creatures won't protect you from big scary opponents, I'd recommend playing Crawlspace over Marchesa's Decree since it really stops opponents from getting in hits on you.
While I get that with all the tokens, Altar's Reap is like a Divination, I'd really want to see Well of Lost Dreams in here with all this lifegain you have, as it could make this deck seriously powerful. (If you do play the Well of lost dreams, I sense a Reliquary Tower in your future.
While yes, you can pitch your lands to make a 1/1 every turn, you could just play, I'd say this card should be swapped out for something like Aetherflux Reservoir, which can win you games. (While you are token heavy, Whip of Erebos could also be strong.
I suppose that with enough tokens, Zealous Persecution would be decent, but if you were to play Authority of the Consuls or Blood Artist I think you'd have more success in the life you need to trigger other cards (I could also see Whitesun's Passage getting swapped for another card, but direct lifegain might be goof enough that it works.
Throne of the High City could be fun if you want to continue keeping monarch as a fun theme to have.
If you'd like more suggestions, just let me know buddy ;)
3 weeks ago
Hey there! Nice deck you have here! Addressing your questions in order:
First, I would recommend cutting the following cards:
- Bishop's Soldier
- Drana's Emissary
- Duskborne Skymarcher
- Falkenrath Gorger
- Insolent Neonate
- Pulse Tracker
- Shadow Alley Denizen
- Shared Triumph
- Stromkirk Occultist
- Tithe Drinker
- Vampire Cutthroat
- Vicious Conquistador
You may notice a theme with the above cards: They're mostly low-CMC Vampires with a small effect. While I rarely play super-aggro EDH decks, the fact that you're facing usually 3 opponents with 40 life each means that simply having a lot of creatures doesn't do a lot. Edgar Markov makes a lot of tokens on his own, which can all grow absurdly large, so I really don't think you should be focused on spending your cards on weenies when you can be doing better things.
As for your other concerns:
- I really don't think Well of Lost Dreams has a place here. It's best in heavy-lifegain decks that lack other strong ways (and need strong ways) to draw cards, neither of which is a good descriptor for this deck.
- Purphoros, God of the Forge, and Door of Destinies, on the other hand, absolutely belong in here. Door is one of the strongest cards tribal-aggro decks have in the format, and Purphoros is excellent in any deck looking to swarm the board.
In any case, hope this helps! Good luck!
3 weeks ago
Hello there , how are you doing? I was hoping you could take a look at my Edgar Markov deck, Mad Dash: Vampires, and give me any advice/suggestions you may have. Some specific questions that I have are:
Which cards do you think I should cut?
What do you think of Well of Lost Dreams in this deck? Do I have enough Lifelink creatures to make good use of it?
Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to give. Have a good one!
1 month ago
Honestly, this deck seems to hate me and I always get mana screwed or flooded. I've made a couple more small changes (pulling some tap lands for basics) and some reanimation stuff. I will try to test it tonight and report back.
1 month ago
Toxic Deluge, Beacon of Immortality, Celestial Mantle, Exquisite Blood, Well of Lost Dreams, Cradle of Vitality all seem like good adds if the point is to gain a bunch of life and use life as a resource.