Dutiful Return

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Limited Legal
Custom Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Highlander Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Frontier Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Battle for Zendikar (BFZ) Common
Khans of Tarkir (KTK) Common

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Dutiful Return

Sorcery

Return up to two target creature cards from your graveyard to your hand.

Dutiful Return Discussion

ExpletoryOrb on what am i doing

1 year ago

alright so here goes, so the cards to the left can be swapped with the ones to the right, it has the same or very similair effect but for a reduced mana cost etc.

Throttle -> Grasp of Darkness

Bloodtallow Candle -> Dismember

Whispers of Emrakul -> Hymn to Tourach

Painful Lesson -> Night's Whisper (there is also: Sign in Blood

Lethal Sting -> Victim of Night (there is also Go for the Throat)

Dutiful Return -> Ghoulcaller's Chant ? (its cheaper and will almost always be for a zombie? a lot cheeper but its your call.)

Abyssal Specter -> Hypnotic Specter

the next ones are cards i think you should strip, i will list them and then explain why:

Ruin Rat : you already have a few of these, and this isnt even a zombie. there are just better cards out there that arent expensive at all, (i'll give some suggestions further down the post)

Shambling Attendants : Just strictly bad, you dont want to play a 3/5 dude for 8 mana ever.

Cruel Feeding : its just pretty bad, the strive cost is very expensive just to +1/0 lifelink. dont use this unless you had something specific in mind that i didnt catch up on reading the list.

Duress and Divest : these never really do much, yes you get to pick away 1 card and see 1 hand but you will almost never hit anything especially good, only run this if you are planning to do a lot of 1v1 EDH.

Here are some suggestions of cards that are very cheap and are pretty good:

Empty the Pits

Zombie Apocalypse

Nightmare

Zombie Master

Nevinyrral's Disk

Exsanguinate

PartyJ on Shaman of the Fireball | Pauper EDH

1 year ago

Hello wraya2 and Podkomorka,

thank you so much for actively helping me improve the deck. I have been closely looking at the large pile of commons which I own more closely. As well as paying good attention to all the suggestions you both made. I came up with the following list of changes to improve the overall strategy and consistancy of the deck.

OUT:

IN:

Thank you both for all the great recommendations. I have put a few still on the maybeboard, as I do not own them yet. But these changes feel like a mayor improvement to the deck already and I can't wait to see this build into action. If anyone still spots possible upgrades or weak links, then I love to hear you about it!

If anyone wishes to chat with me or other fellow magic players about EDH, Pauper EDH or any other format, I can also be found in here most of the time. Feel welcome to join this discord channel at any time.

Best regards,

PJ

Darth_Savage on b/u zombies

1 year ago

Hi animeking1999,

Modern is often described as a turn four format, this means your deck needs to be in a position to win on turn four. Card choices are based on efficiency and consistency, there is a reason decks run 4x of cards, it is to improve the chance of drawing the card you need. Often you don't want to run just a 4x but you want a card with the same or similar effect meaning 8x so for example running 4x Ghoulcaller's Chant and 4x Cemetery Recruitment might make sense in your zombie based deck, but a card like Dutiful Return is just too expensive.

Diregraf Captain is a good lord type creature and if you want flying zombies Scrapskin Drake, Siren of the Silent Song or Stitched Drake would be better choices. I'd also suggest Gravecrawler, even if you are working to a budget, it is worth it.

You need to strip your deck back to a core, decide what it is you want to play and run 4x of those cards and 4x of the cards which support or protect that plan. You also need to balance your mana base better (27 is too much), land cards are worth the investment because they can be used in a variety of decks, so 4x Sunken Hollow probably wouldn't go wrong...

saturn999 on

1 year ago

if you're able to get your lands back what about your creatures? i know you have Dutiful Return. have you thought about Corpseweft or Empty the Pits as 1 ofs? and possibly a Sidisi, Undead Vizier to find your 1 ofs. just a thought. neat deck. +1

-Bean- on Evil Frogger

1 year ago

How about Wander in Death over Dutiful Return?

theindigoeffect on The many children of Edgar Markov

2 years ago

No problem, man. If you use too many basics, you run the risk of not having enough different colors to cast certain cards.

There are other cards like Reflecting Pool, City of Brass and Forbidden Orchard that will give you the colors that you need as well, but if you run too many non-basics, people can abuse the fact that by playing cards like Ruination: it never really happens in my play group, but it's common in others.

Personally, I would replace Opal Palace when you have the opportunity: there are so many lands that let you gain mana instead of simply exchanging one colorless mana for a colored mana.

As far as card draw goes, black is arguably the best color in Magic, but with black there's always a drawback. That being said, cards like Skeletal Scrying, Underworld Connections and Necrologia may seem bad on the surface, but they allow you to draw more than Ambition's Cost. There's even colorless options like Mind's Eye and Memory Jar. Skullclamp and Phyrexian Arena are definitely worth keeping in your deck!

It varies from deck to deck, but a good rule of thumb is to have at least 10 cards that serve as mana ramp, such as Sol Ring, Dark Ritual, Mana Geyser, Caged Sun and Myriad Landscape. There are rare exceptions, where you really don't need it, like in a weenie deck where most of your creatures cost 1 or 2 mana.

Mana ramp helps you play everything earlier. I know you're not really trying to get your commander out on the battlefield, but in most decks you have a huge advantage by playing your spells 1-2 turns earlier, and cards like Jet Medallion and Burnished Hart will help ensure that the Butcher of Malakir you drew in your opening hand can be played on turn 5, instead of 7.

You typically want to have at least 10 card draw cards, too. Ultimately, you may have to adjust how much ramp/card draw you include or remove, based on how the deck performs, but that's a good starting point.

Coat of Arms is a great card, unless you're playing your friend's The Ur-Dragon deck, since it also gives your friend's dragons +1/+1 counters. A better alternative for your colors would be Shared Animosity: it's confusing to read at first, but once you understand how it works, it's actually better for a tribal deck. Anyhow, Coat of Arms is still awesome, unless you're playing against another strong, tribal deck.

Consuming Vapors doesn't allow you to pick what creature you want to destroy, so if you use it against an Edgar Markov deck, that person will just sacrifice one of their vampire tokens, instead of that annoying Captivating Vampire. Hero's Downfall lets you pick a creature or planeswalker.

Also, if you look on the right side of the page, you'll see a stat that shows your Avg. CMC (average converted mana cost) is 3.79. You can reduce that average and make your deck faster and more efficient by replacing cards with high cmc costs with lower cmc costs. For example, by replacing Dutiful Return with Death's Duet, you can make your deck run faster and reduce the overall cost. If you try to do this with every card, your deck will become more competitive as a result.

That being said, it's not worth it to to replace a good card with a worse version of the same card, even if it costs less. For example, Furnace of Rath may be cheaper, but Gratuitous Violence is definitely better and worth the higher cost.

Sometimes the worse card is actually better for your deck. For example, Grave Pact has a much lower cmc than Butcher of Malakir, and it's harder to remove an enchantment than it is to remove a creature, but since you're playing a vampire deck, Butcher of Malakir is a more synergistic choice, and that makes Butcher of Malakir a superior option.

Sicohippy on GhoulCaller Gisa (First EDH Deck)

2 years ago

Welcome to EDH, my personal favourite format, and my personal favourite commander, Ghoulcaller Gisa!

I absolutely love this general because you can make whatever you want from her, I see all kinds of different takes on the deck.

If you need sacrificial fodder, definitely add Phyrexian Dreadnought, Phyrexian Soulgorger, and Waning Wurm

Kokusho, the Evening Star is great to sacrifice, just go ahead and heal yourself based on other's life totals

to buff your zombies, I see you have added Coat of Arms, don't ever remove this, its probably your strongest synergy.Zombie Master, Corpse Harvester, Unbreathing Horde are all good to continue this growth effect.

Stoneforge Masterwork, Fallen Ideal to double your zombies

Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Intent, Increasing Ambition, Beseech the Queen, Demonic Collusion are all good options for tutors, I think you ought to include atleast 2 more, maybe 3 depending on how combo-y/ synergistic you want to make this deck.

Attrition, Grave Pact, Smokestack, Magus of the Abyss, Pox and other stax cards of the like to tax your opponents for creatures while you can easily upkeep the cost.

Rise of the Dark Realms is sometimes a win con, other reanimation effects include Sheoldred, Whispering One, Dutiful Return, Dread Return, Death Denied and ESPECIALLY Hell's Caretaker, love this guy...

I could go all day with suggestions, shes really a canvas in terms of generals, you can do just about anything you want to do that is under the spectrum of black, by all means, completely ignore every suggestion I have made, this is a good deck as it stands for multiplayer already.

I hope this helps as a resource though in case you want to take it one direction or the other.

ALSO...

remember that Ghoulcaller Gisa's ability doesn't have to be used on your turn, so its important to only use it when you absolutely have to, unless your zombies have haste, that is... but remember that the zombies usually don't have haste and they need to wait a turn to be used, so you can wait until the end of an opponents turn, or the beginning of another's or even respond to effects on the stack with her ability.

I hope this helps! Cheers!

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