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|Magic 2014 (M14)||Common|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Common|
|2010 Core Set (M10)||Common|
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Target player puts the top five cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
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Tome Scour Discussion
5 days ago
Well for a deck based on Cruel Ultimatum, I'd suggest a discard theme. Use cards like Megrim or Waste Not to punish discard, along with cards like Gnat Miser and Barbed Shocker as well as _Windfall _ to maximise it. Lastly, because ultimatum isn't a cheap spell maybe Wildfire Eternal or Chandra, Pyromaster to help cheat it out. Note though that the deck should probably have 4x of the cards mentioned, budget alloying...
For Villainous Wealth I'd go for mana acceleration and mill. Green is great at mana acceleration and blue and black do a good job of milling. Use cards like Fertile Ground and Arbor Elf or Voyaging Satyr to give you extra mana along with Breaking / Entering, Tome Scour and Manic Scribe to keep eating away at your opponents deck...
I hope this helps and gives you some ideas.
1 week ago
1 week ago
shirouu- First, thank you for the uovote and thanks for considering my deck for a comeback!
Yeah, the "No" factor of this deck makes it pretty aggravating to play.
The real wallet sluggers here are:
Mesmeric Orb- These are nearly 40% of the deck's cost. Unfortunately, also nearly indespensible to the deck's mechanics. Doing so much of the heavy lifting, I'm afraid there isn't any comparable replacement for their long-game potency.
Oboro, Palace in the Clouds- this isn't necessary to the deck. In fact, it's in this list, but I don't actually have one for it in paper. My one copy is in my Esper Salt Mill. This list does quite well without it. You could use Halimar Depths for some deck fixing, and it would work with Deprive and Hedron Crab in a defensive position but still add fuel to your wincon.
Thing in the Ice Flip- This is still in testing. With only 2 in the deck, it's not a crucial card. More of a backup wincon should I face a go-wide token or weenie deck. You could do AEtherize, or fill in with one more of each Unsummon and Vapor Snag. I've even been considering Boomerang, so I can return their lands as well.
On the low end of pricing, these cards are over 50% of the deck's cost. I'm not sure how competitive your meta is, but this will still be annoying in any capacity. If you're playing more casually, you can always do a casual mill like Bigger Bluer Eraserer, this deck features 2 cards, not legal in Modern: Whirlpool Rider and Accumulated Knowledge.
The other option to making this more effective with a budget, would be to add some more tempo. Mana Leaks, or other cheap disruption spells would simply buy you time to finish the job without the Orbs.
Hope this helps!! And I sincerely hope you get to use this and win with it. It's a lot of fun if you really like being the troll at the table!
Any more questions, or I can help, let me know!!
3 weeks ago
Dream Salvage out, your deck doesn't revolve around discard. Jace, Memory Adept out. He's too slow. 3x Mindcrank in. Mindcrank + Duskmantle Guildmage's first ability are an infinite combo. See Open Skull Lobotomy for how this works. Also, your Mindcrank will turn damage dealt into mill, which is something you're going for here.
1 month ago
Hey man, nice deck. Perhaps Mindcrank can help you out with that Duskmantle Guildmage for a combo. Tome Scour and Thought Scour to speed things up. Kudos for using Psychic Drain I never seen that, cool card.
1 month ago
Skaab Ruinator is great but I don't like the idea of him sharing a graveyard with both Splinterfright andBoneyard Wurm - these cards require creatures be in the grave, where as the Ruinator is busy ditching them all. Remove one group or the other (personally i'd keep the Ruininators)
In terms of value for self-mill, there are better cards than Tome Scour and Autumnal Gloom Flip (which in the current setup looks unlikely to flip soon). You want cards that provide benefits while also milling. Stuff like Stitcher's Supplier, and Grisly Salvage (or even just Crow of Dark Tidings).
Finally, you probably don't actually need 4 copies of Ruininator, 2-3 seems to work fine (i have a sultai dredge deck also) - reason being you just need one to show it's face and the rest kindof become redundant and dead-cards.
2 months ago
TheSurgeon Hi, thank for the comment: 1) Search for azcanta is a very good card, bc allows you to select your draws late game. It is not a card for early game:this is why I play it 1x. 2) Drowned Secrets In my opinion is a very bad card, bc if you draw it late game is a "dead draw", azcanta is superior on it bc if u think at it: both two do nothing when enters in batter field, but azcanta gain value every turn (both early and late game) butDrowned Secrets in useless late game. 3) Putting Ensnaring Bridge in main or sb depends from the local meta, so maybe your are right, if there are not aggro decks in your local meta :) 4 I tested Thought Scour in my deck a lot, but you simply don't need it, is a cc1 cycle 1 mill 2. So I prefer invest one mana in something else, like Visions of Beyond, you don't need too mutch draws in mill, expecially bc you have Ensnaring Bridge. So I am considering the idea of put in the deck 2x of Collective Brutality. 4) Tome Scour is a bad card too, is good only if u want a budget list. I don't recommend to think to build a strategy with Drowned Secrets. If you like enchants I recommend you to build a Fraying Sanity budget deck :) Hope this answer to your questions. Anyways, thanks for the advices :) P.S. Sorry for my English :)
2 months ago
Search for Azcanta Flip doesn't belong here. For 2 you should be milling, not waiting. You say mill is aggressive.. but you're going to waste time and resources on an enchantment that does nothing for your archetype and makes your deck $20 more? Consider Drowned Secrets for replacement.
Hope this helps a bit.