Not legal in any format
Combos Browse all
Wall of Frost
Creature — Wall
Defender (This creature can't attack.)
Whenever Wall of Frost blocks a creature, that creature doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
Price & Acquistion
Wall of Frost Discussion
1 day ago
Hey, I saw you comment on my deck (Tetsuko & Doran's Assault Formation!), and I'd love to see if I can give you any tips for this deck.
As you already said in your description for this deck, Arcades, the Strategist might be a very good card for this deck, especially if you like control decks. White-Green-Blue is a very nice color combination for a control deck, and the defender creatures you are running just add onto that. Furthermore, this deck as it is now can only make your creatures with defender attack if you happen to draw Assault Formation, which means there are gonna be some games were you won't be able to get it. However, you can play around this with your big creatures.
Arcades, the Strategist also lets you draw more cards, which together with Lead the Stampede and your creatures that make mana allow you to build up a very strong board, However, you do already have Soul of the Harvest, which kinda does the same, but just costs 2 more. For that reason, even if you don't play Arcades, the Strategist, I really like your Lead the Stampedes, If you want to stay mono green you could even play something like Commune with Nature to fetch another creature.
If you're wondering what kind of creatures with defender you get access to when also going into blue and white, here are some nice options: Ludevic's Test Subject Flip can work with your mana ramping, Wall of Frost, Wall of Denial, Stalwart Shield-Bearers, Wall of Omens I really love this card together with your Carven Caryatid and Soul of the Harvest (and Arcades, the Strategist if you want to run it) since it just make you fly through your deck, Dragon's Eye Sentry, Perimeter Captain, and you get access to Rolling Stone, however between Assualt Formation and Arcades, the Strategist, you wont need it. Also you get access to some metagame staples like Path to Exile.
Perhaps a Tower Defense or Shape the Sands (or Aegis of the Heavens (its a new m19 card so tappedout wont let me link it) when playing white) could also make this deck more explosive if you want to go that route, but since you are not reliant on making your creatures with defender attack, Carnage Tyrant is a nice beater, when going into white you also get access to angels which are great late game creatures, you might even think about running card with in their mana costs, like Entreat the Angels, Quarantine Field, Secure the Wastes, Animist's Awakening, Chord of Calling, Enshrined Memories, Genesis Wave, Nissa, Steward of Elements.
Finally, I don't really like Trolls of Tel-Jilad, Terastodon, and Naya Panorama since they don't really do much. I would also up your land count to at least 20, even with all the mana acceleration. Maybe even 22-24. As for your current maybeboard, I like the Axebane Guardian, and all the other card are also good beaters except for Silklash Spider, Prey Upon your defender creatures have no power, even with Assault Formation, not 100% sure on this interaction though, and Elixir of Immortality, If you want lifegain, perhaps a Jaddi Offshoot is better?
I hope this helps you a little! I like the deck and its versatility a lot!
3 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
DankStompy I mean, if I was looking for the most efficient deck ever I wouldn't be using only Wall creatures in the first place. It's not about to go win any tournaments, it's a gimmicky stupid wall deck for casual play. So maybe try not to hold it to that kind of breakneck speed and high efficiency. In my play group a turn 7 win is about what you'd expect. Much longer, actually, since we usually have more than 2 players. This deck isn't gonna be facing off any turn 3 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn anytime soon.
Also, I like Cancel because it actually gets rid of the spell, unlike Remand which pretty much just delays the spell and Mana Leak which doesn't even guarantee a successful counter. Worth spending the one extra mana to me.
Also, also, Twisted Image doesn't work on Wall of Denial due to its Shroud. One of the things thats making me consider replacing it. Just don't know what with. Wall of Frost is probably the hardest hitter.
If you have a better Wall in mind, I'd love to hear it.
1 month ago
1x Hover Barrier - Not a huge fan of defenders in decks as they usually stall out the game rather than add value.
1x Dreadwaters - not the most milling. if you had a higher land curve id say its fine.
1x Fog Bank - same as Hover Barrier
1x Returned Centaur - Not too useful as a creature, essentially paying 4 mana to mill four cards which you can get better value for.
1x Sidisi's Faithful - your deck isnt revolved around sacrificing and I dont think you have enough cards that you'd be okay with sacrificing for this to be viable.
1x Sigiled Starfish - Scrying is cool and useful, but once again more value can be added to this deck.
1x Wall of Frost - same as Hover Barrier
1x Wight of Precinct Six - Better options.
1x Mind Sculpt - In edh a one-use 7 mill card isn't worth. Every card should add good value.
1x Paranoid Delusions - If this deck revolved around unblockable attacking this would be good, but since it doesn't it's just a 3 mill card.
1x Reave Soul - This could also stay in, but most threats in edh are generally above three and this being a sorcery hurts its value.
1x Tormented Thoughts - Again, you don't have creatures to sacrifice, so I wouldn't use sacrificing as a function in this deck.
1x Chronic Flooding - This can be a good card if someone is mana starved, but more often than not it's gonna just make that one land go unused.
1x Macabre Waltz - Not the strongest way to get back creatures, getting them onto the battlefield is a more efficient use of your mana.
1x Duskmantle Guildmage - can generate mill when you need and can combo with the first effect to do a LOT of damage.
1x Jace's Archivist - Drawing aspect, gets cards in graveyard, can give you a new hand. Great card.
1x Notion Thief - I'm almost mad I'm including this but this is busted. unfortunately, it'll probably get killed all the time.
1x Psychic Spiral - A lot of Mill potential.
1x Talent of the Telepath - seven mill and you get to steal one or two spells.
1x Diabolic Tutor - can never have enough tutors.
1x Mindcrank - This can honestly win the game.
1x Life's Finale - Board wipes are always nice.
1x Stolen Identity - Copying shit is nice, but the cipher is what makes this so good.
1x Manic Scribe - Not the strongest but can be nice. assuming its later in the game, four card types should be in the graveyard so thats 3 mill every upkeep.
1x Traumatize - Fuck this card.
1x Soul Manipulation - counter that also mills.
1x Body Double - could probably get a better card to replace this. but late game when graveyards are fat this can come in handy.
1x Dimir Doppelganger - since you'll play other people who use graveyards, you can exile creatures from graveyards to make them unusable, while still getting your use.
Cards you can keep but I personally dont like in the deck:
Omniscience - omniscience is op and I get why you'd want it but your mana curve is pretty low and it costs so much that I doubt youd get it out and make use of it.
Altar of the Brood - I dont know how this plays in games, but you're not getting out a lot of permanents so i dont see how this works too well.
Gravepurge - this lets you get back any creature into your hand, which is good, but you could just get a card that puts it back onto the battlefield.
Thoughtscour - this is realistically just a draw card.
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver - I dont know how to feel about this, the exile feature kinda messes with your use from the graveyard style but you can use the second effect to get some of the creatures. It puts all of those exiled cards into a world only he can interact with which makes him good and useful, but limits your decks synergy.
Animate Dead - theres a lot of revive from graveyard cards in this deck is all im gonna say. maybe too many.
Curse of the Bloody Tome - this is helpful and makes sure someones getting milled which is good, but two an upkeep isnt very strong.
Sands of Delirium - not bad and gives you ability to mill every turn, but this is only usable when you can't do anything since you need to have disposable mana.
Cards that should be abused more:
Sphinx's Tutelage - if you make your deck able to draw more this card can be ridiculously op.
Broken Cards you can add (may be Expensive):
Lich Lord of Unx and Undead Alchemist - are both great but you'd have to turn your deck into a zombie deck and it would make you rely less on other graveyards. I dont think relying on other graveyards is good. this could also add a sacrifice element and you could use cards like Altar of Dementia. - overhauling to a zombie deck would be expensive but i think it'd be really effective.
Tunnel Vision - this could be dumb busted, i saw a combo of if you have a card that lets you put on the bottom of someones library then use this you immediately mill them out. That's gay tho dont do that.
Trepanation Blade - this is some nice mill and adds damage and attack to a possibility of your deck.
Extractor Demon - you'd need to run zombies.
Dralnu, Lich Lord - i hate to say it but zombies is looking like the way to go. get more effectiveness out of your spells.
Phenax, God of Deception - if you want your deck to be less based around mill and more just blue black interactions this dude's good. can make a defender deck worthwhile. probably the best consistent mill card I've seen.
Havengul Lich - cast creatures from ALL graveyards. shit i might buy this guy.
Sewer Nemesis - good
Decree of Pain - boardwipes are op
1 month ago
When planning a mana base, you need to find the most demanding cards to cast in each of your colours, then make sure you have enough sources of each colour to match those requirements. Frank Karsten wrote an article showcasing these requirements, if you don't want to bother with hypergeometric probabilities. It's often acceptable to be a few sources short, depending on the situation. For example, in your previous list, you had Wall of Frost, which normally requires 19 blue sources to reliably cast on turn three, but my previous suggested mana base had 17 sources, since this card wasn't integral to your game plan, and the rest of the colour wasn't as demanding. (Looking back, I could even have shaved off a few more, since it was a singleton.) Lands count as one source of every colour they produce, and you can count fetchlands as five-colour lands, if you have the right shocklands to go with them. For basic lands, the guideline I generally follow is: if I had all the basic lands in my deck in play, and no other lands, would I be able to cast every single spell in my deck?
Looking at your revised decklist, the mana base I would suggest is the following (cutting two Wall of Vines for two lands):
As you can see, this list has 17 sources of green (higher than the minimum 14, but helpful in case you need to cast Chord of Calling with few creatures), 13 sources of white (this is one short for a turn one Perimeter Captain, but it's only a two-of and other one-drops take priority), 13 sources of blue (one higher than the minimum 12 to help transmute Drift of Phantasms without creatures, but a reliable transmute would require blue sources), and 10 sources of black (one higher than the minimum 9 because of Doran, the Siege Tower in the boardI would go up to 12 black sources had it been in the main). I assume the two copies of By Force are a meta call. You didn't need sources other than your creatures for this when it was in the board, but if it's main, then I suggest putting in one Stomping Ground (or Cinder Glade; again, all dual lands can be substituted to fit your budget).
It's pretty old, but you can check this video for an example of the application of the principles listed above. (Keep in mind that, since he goes by experience rather than mathematics, his numbers are a bit off; e.g. you should have around 16 sources of red to cast Stormbreath Dragon on turn five.)
In any case, by taking Doran, the Siege Tower out of the main and upping the number of copies of Freed from the Real, I assume you're transitioning from a beatdown plan primary with a backup combo to full-on combo with a beatdown secondary in Assault Formation, in which case I recommend you swap out Wall of Vines for Wall of Shards.
1 month ago
If you keep saying "thumbs up", you should actually up-vote the deck ;)
Wall of Frost is an iceberg. Also, perhaps you didn't notice but this, but it provides good devotion for turning on my commander and provides early-game cover (which you may not have noticed, but most of my creatures come out late).
As for card-draw, perhaps. It seems good in most of my games. My commander smooths out my draws well. I have several card-draw cards in the sideboard--it's definitely something I'm seriously considering. This is one of my somewhat-intentionally underpowered decks to whip out with beginners, so polishing it to the Nth degree isn't too much of a priority.
Thanks for your comments! Be sure to up-vote the deck if you like it!
As for Spreading Seas: this deck is budget at heart, and a lot of the current price is inflation. Spreading Seas is significantly more money than Sea's Claim and just wasn't close to worth it at the time I built the deck. Very few sea monsters actually have Islandwalk--the card was more of a devotion-gaining flavor card. If anything I would run both. If I were to upgrade the deck down the line, it would be a worthy upgrade.
2 months ago
I was watching one of The Professor's videos going over card advantage, and in it he expresses that (I forget which card exactly so I'll have a stand-in) cards like Mind Sculpt essentially pay to discard a card from your hand.
His point is that there are generally better ways to use that . You don't affect the boardstate in a meaningful way, you don't disrupt their hand or counter their spells, and you don't advance your boardstate or your hand.
You tap two of your lands to discard a card. Period.
But I don't see it that way. You just removed seven cards from their library. You potentially got rid of very useful cards. In the case of things like Destroy the Evidence, they mill until four lands are in their graveyard. Whether they topdeck all four lands in a row, or they are running just an 18-land deck and they throw just as many cards away simply depends. Regardless, four lands is a huge blow to anybody's game.
So my question is very straightforward: Why don't we see more mill?
With combos like Duskmantle Guildmage + Mindcrank, or Fraying Sanity + Glimpse the Unthinkable, or playsets of Destroy the Evidence + Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker (Both milling until four lands), I don't understand why we don't see more of Mill out there?
And before you state the "obvious" that there's no good protection, there's plenty. Nemesis of Reason, Gifted Aetherborn, Vampire Nighthawk, Wall of Frost, Monastery Flock, and they all do really well with Phenax, God of Deception.
So what are your guy's thoughts? Why isn't Mill more commonly played, or at the very least used as a sub-strategy when decks can allow for it?
2 months ago
I like the deck, and there's enough room in your sideboard for Wall of Frost :)