|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
Combos Browse all
Target player puts the top five cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
Price & Acquistion Set Price Alerts
Compelling Argument Discussion
1 day ago
Compelling Argument would be a good fuel for getting god pharaoh's gift out by possibly turn four if your lucky and not to mention it could get u a gearhulk or another beastly creature in the graveyard
2 days ago
Hey guys - just entered a draft league. They let us pick up 4 packs to start (2 ANK, 2 HOU) and build 30 card decks from there. I think I got the short end of the pulls. Especially when I look at the awesome (frustratingly so) pulls that my GF got, who is even more of a newbie to the game. Anyway, this is what I put together:
Creatures Frilled Sandwalla , Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons, Naga Vitalist, Dune Beetle , Wretched Camel, Ruin Rat, Bitterblade Warrior , Sidewinder Naga , Ornery Kudu , Giant Spider , Bitterbow Sharpshooters
The idea that I had was to go BG for tossing -1/-1 with Vizier, and having some creatures and pumps. Splashed U for milling.
What else did I pull? Garbage, I think. White was especially thin, which is sad because it's one of my favorite colors.
Blue Strategic Planning, Spellweaver Eternal, Labyrinth Guardian , Ancient Crab , Eternal of Harsh Truths, Tragic Lesson, Illusory Wrappings , Shimmerscale Drake , Striped Riverwinder, Open Into Wonder
Aftermath Onward / Victory
Now, my list of cards is recorded at the store, so I can change the deck but obviously cannot add any cards from elsewhere. I'm wondering if I shouldn't have featured Red in the deck, maybe just cut my losses and went RG to keep it simple. Can anyone help me out? It's fairly casual, but I don't really want to get my head caved in for the next two months of MtG.Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!
2 days ago
My zombie deck started with UB, now it's just Mono Black, and not budget. I would suggest Compelling Deterrence, Dark Salvation, and Haunted Dead. The Compelling Argument is way out of place, I'm under the impression that you will use it on yourself. But I would rather draw cards with Hieroglyphic Illumination in case you don't mill and creatures. Since you are already over $100 you might as well try not making it budget and go with more Relentless Dead and Grasp of Darkness.
3 days ago
My zombie deck started with UB, now it's just Mono Black, and not budget. I would suggest Compelling Deterrence , Dark Salvation, and Haunted Dead. The Compelling Argument is way out of place, I'm under the impression that you will use it on yourself. But I would rather draw cards with Hieroglyphic Illumination in case you don't mill and creatures. Since you are already over $100 you might as well try not making it budget and go with more Relentless Dead and Grasp of Darkness.
4 days ago
I find that I'm waiting to draw land after turn 2, so I can use most of my spells.
Mill is tricky, you can't use creatures and turbo mill. It just doesn't work fast enough.Mill (in any capacity) needs time. You need to make that time.
Your cmc is rather high for a modern mill, but I see what you are trying to do with the creatures and the sword. Not an original idea, but I find this build intriguing. You should take out the instant mill spells:
Compelling Argument for Thought Scour cause it does both for less.
2x Traumatize for 2x more Shriekhorn
2x Mind Funeral for 2x Turn Aside to keep your artifacts and creatures safe.
You'll ever get to play a Grisly Spectacle or Dreadwaters effectively. How about Mindcrank to turn that combat damage you're dealing into more mill power?
Scrapskin Drake and Viral Drake for Invisible Stalker.
It's a start. Playtest and see if the suggestions don't improve the deck's speed a little.
Luck to ya!
6 days ago
Have you played any Standard with this deck, because it looks very weak.
As UW Monument is maybe best deck in standard, it just runs over decks like this.
Against control this decks does literally nothing, you are not going to resolve any Fraying Sanitys.
Galestrike, Impeccable Timing, Fan Bearer, God-Pharaoh's Faithful, Scribe of the Mindful are all just overall too weak cards to Standard.
Sad to be depressive but just saying.
6 days ago
Ipnu Rivulet has the potential to generate a lot of mill. Desert of the Mindful and Dunes of the Dead in place of Island is probably a good idea. With these lands in your deck - Mirrorpool to copy your Startled Awake. With this land base, you will want to lose Abandoned Sarcophagus.
Hieroglyphic Illumination may just be a bit expensive in terms of mana and becomes more of a mid to late game card, while you want your deck to win before turn 7. I tend to play Anticipate in a deck like this, but that is largely personal preference.
Startled Awake + Mirrorpool with 2 Fraying Sanity = 104 cards milled. Compelling Argument + Mirrorpool + Ipnu Rivulet with 2 Fraying Sanity = 56 cards milled, etc. There are a number of combinations that can win the game in a single turn - why not have the cards that can be used in these combinations?
1 week ago
Going to look at Perpetual Timepiece as a big get lost to local players who are looking to go big with mill strategies. Keep it in SB so if they get to Fraying Sanity + Startled Awake + Ipnu Rivulet + Compelling Argument, which becomes a quickly unsustainable x 2 at least (13+4+5) 44 in a turn or two, let alone if there are 2x Fraying Sanitys on the board.
Mill might be a deck that only comes in briefly until the answers hit the meta and overwhelm it.