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Scour from Existence
Exile target permanent.
Scour from Existence Discussion
3 weeks ago
Thanks Geralf117! You actually bring up a very good point, which is my deck specifically lacks non-creature permanent removal. As of right now I only have the 2 counters which you mentioned and Wash Out and Cyclonic Rift . I like the idea of Scour from Existence which I will think about, but it makes me think I should add in either 1-2 more counters or 1-2 removal spells or one of each (at least as a start). As you well know the deck handles creature removal excellently so if I got desperate I could always take one of those spells out to free up a slot. Thanks for the suggestion! And I’m happy to hear this will be an inspiration to you! FYI, i built this deck years ago and it slowly improved over time so i totally get not having the money to buy all the high end stuff at once. It took me up until 10 months ago to finally get my hands on All Hallow's Eve which doesn’t necessarily make or break the deck but is one of my favorite cards of all time and possibly my favorite art in all of MTG. So you will definitely be able to make quirky decisions like that for yours when the time comes!
1 month ago
Funny QuietMyth, I saw your old primer first. Looking at the list I went from how nice a colorless list with just the eldrazi titans ready to stomp face, nothing more, nothing less. But then I saw the decklist was 4-5 years old and not updated.
Scrolling through some decklistst on tappedout I saw a list that looked kinda familiar and I was super happy seeing it was your old decklist, but now updated. thank you for that. I need about 28 more cards. Most of the expensive stuff I have. The only 2 I'm really missing are Karn Liberated and Scroll Rack
Scroll Rack I'm not so sure about yet. Is it really that good and essential for the deck? Asking because it is also a expensive card. Next to this, it is not on the reserved list so a reprint might happen. If you explain how important it is, I might drop the money for it :)
1 month ago
You should try out the almighty flicker card, Ghostly Flicker . It works extremely well with Archaeomancer and Mnemonic Wall , since you can flicker one of those with another ETB trigger and get the ETB trigger off of the second thing, while returning Ghostly Flicker back to your hand with Archaeomancer/Mnemoic Wall.
If you're running Scour from Existence , you should run Meteor Golem instead. Meteor Golem does almost the same thing (can't hit lands and is a creature instead of an instant), but you can abuse the ETB trigger!
1 month ago
I dont know your meta, so might be a non-issue, put play tested your deck a couple of time. The turn you normal start to be able to really impact the board (defend yourself, attack etc) is turn 5 or 6. That is a bit late if your opponents are doing stuff those turns.
Your decks starts going after that but is still not doing anything insane. To really get things started you need to get to +t10
Id try lower your curve a bit. Replace some of these cards (not all) with things that ramp or have some impact early game. Reiver Demon , Lord of the Void , Exsanguinate , Army of the Damned , Dread Cacodemon , Demolition Stomper , Marionette Master , Gray Merchant of Asphodel , Spine of Ish Sah , Scour from Existence , Silverskin Armor , Revel in Riches , Demolition Stomper , Glaring Spotlight .
Some suggestion that gives you some early game plays Mind Stone , Palladium Myr , Voltaic Servant , Foundry Inspector , Vampire Nighthawk (people hate attacking in to that) Plague Myr , Filigree Familiar or really whatever mana stones you have at hand.
1 month ago
I really liked Scour from Existence , and it will probably make it's way back in if no solid removal comes out in MH.
I would only run Final Fortune type effects if you do the Sundial thing. In place of that, I would give Aggravated Assault a try. Your deck and the changes you are talking about would allow you to make more mana than I can, which would mean infinite combats if you start with enough tokens and OG Krenko on the board.
Kazuul tokens for Ashnod's is definitely a huge plus. You're making me want to run it again! Haha.
Harder to remove is exactly why I run Fervor over Hammer, my playgroup has a good amount of artifact hate, which is also why I have leaned out my artifacts over the years.
The deck, and monored period, has the hardest time with card advantage. Unfortunately the best cards red has access to fix that are artifacts or wheels. Mind's Eye or Slate of Ancestry are probably the two best artifacts. Having Rings, Bracers, and Goblin Welder definitely make Burnished Hart more potent, I've just always had great luck with it, and ran Sad Robot for a while and never really felt the impact to the same degree, but I didn't have any artifact recursion. I am also thinking about Feldon again, I don't think I gave him enough time to try to work.
1 month ago
Well I've been agonizing over it and I think I'm going to take out the Lattice anyway. It only exists to enable combos, which seems kind of like a dead card, plus it has negative synergy with Blood Moon and its Magus.
I really like Thran Dynamo , but have you ever considered that Basalt Monolith goes infinite with Rings of Brighthearth ? Not that we really need infinite mana but it's just an extra interaction that can help us cast our spells with limited mountains at our disposal.
Tbh with Lattice going away I will probably get rid of Goblin Welder . And undeniable solid card, I hardly get to use him like I would like to. I do encounter a ton of manarocks at my LGS and in my playgroup so I may keep Treasure Nabber , but all he usually accomplishes is painting a target on my head, so he may get scrapped later. With that being said I think I see the potential for Scour from Existence more than Spine of Ish Sah . Being able to stop things at instant speed is just too important. My LGS is flooded with reanimation, and being able to exile a critical piece at a critical moment is more valuable to me I think.
Final Fortune is definitely something I will consider, since often times all I need is one more turn to end someone before they catch back up and blow be back to where I can no longer compete. But I also can't really find anything else I want in that has synergy with Sundial of the Infinite so that and Sundial is probably out.
I like Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs better I think, I get to sac those creatures with Goblin Bombardment and Vicious Shadows will trigger off of them as well. Also triggers Purphoros, God of the Forge and Impact Tremors .
Why Burnished Hart over Solemn Simulacrum ? I would think because of the two mountains that Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician can immediately utilize but I feel like card advantage is something this deck needs. Also Simulacrum is ridiculous if Feldon of the Third Path finds his way back into the deck, which I think he deserves because he can recur more Haste effects, ETB goblin triggers, and also works awesome with Rings and Illusionist's Bracers . He's just 6 mana for all of that which is a little hefty.
1 month ago
Wow, thanks for the huge reply. Let me work through this-
Treasure Nabber : so, I did in fact get this idea from an older version of your decklist and I've ran with it ever since. Essentially my deck has turned into IB/artifact tomfoolery as an alternate wincon. I have won quite a few games with the Mycosynth Lattice , Nabber, Blood Moon combo, because my playgroup is heavily non-basic dependent and nothing feels better than saccing my new-found artifact mountains I just stole. Goblin Trashmaster has also came in really clutch with the Lattice and so has Goblin Welder . Hellkite Tyrant also fits into this theme but I haven't had a chance to use it yet, it's my most recent addition to the deck. And of course Daretti, Scrap Savant ties it all nicely together, I've had her emblem out a few times, which is pretty much game winning with a Lattice on board. With all of that said, the Artifact theme in this deck is highly up for debate right now in my mind and people I've asked. I'm very much on the fence about keeping the Lattice and Nabber in myself, and if they go then Hellkite most definitely goes. Also Lattice+ Vandalblast has pulled me out of many lost games and turned them into resounding victories (I also used to run Shattering Spree ).
Goblin Goliath : He is not being used. I have been on the fence about putting him in for a while now. I don't really know what to remove, and he is a lot of mana to utilize if I want to use him (he'd be a fat removal target for my meta, so I'd have to use him ASAP). I definitely want him in though, he's a strong contender.
Vicious Shadows : this is also a new addition. Boggart Shenanigans is great but I've never really made it work too well outside of like, two wins that I can recall. Shadows is expensive, but with Gauntlet of Power , Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx (which I can reliably grab with an Expedition Map , that cost is almost negligible, for a lot more disgusting effect. But like I said, new addition, I don't know if it is worth a crap or not yet. With the cost in mind, I do plan on running an Extraplanar Lens when I upgrade to Snow lands, alongside the Gauntlet and a Shrine to Nyx, high mana costs with very few lands aren't usually much of an issue. But if Shadows falls flat a few times I am definitely putting Shenanigans back in I think. The potential is just too high for both cards.
Raid Bombardment : So I used to run this one. I like it in theory a lot, and I want to find a spot to put it back in, I just haven't seen it with great results usually. Granted, that was with different playgroup then now, where typically me swinging with goblins means they die in vain, whereas I was much more likely to win with a Goblin Bombardment , which is my baby, and I have used with Shenanigans as well to win games.
Glacial Crevasses : it's been on my radar for a long time. It is 100% the next upgrade for my deck, I was just hesitant to spend so much on snow lands for a long time, since I am still not sold on how many I need exactly. Frankly I think I made a mistake holding off on this particular upgrade for so long (like I mentioned, I've been following this decklist for over a year now after I built my first iteration of IB).
Reverberate / Fork / Wild Ricochet : I love the idea, I really do, but I ran them in my deck for a long time and have hardly used them to any meaningful effect. Ricochet is never going back in, but Reverberate and Fork I want to keep/put in, I just noticed they were usually dead in hand. They're near the top of the list of card I'll put back in, it's just finding space for them. I've never drawn into a game winning combo with them unfortunately, but the theory behind keeping them is solid.
Reforge the Soul : I used to run it, then took it out because I just didn't utilize it enough. Memory Jar is one of my more recent upgrades and I am a big fan. I just put Reforge back in because of Vicious Shadows . Time will tell if I keep either, since Slate of Ancestry also usually ended up falling flat for me.
Ancient Tomb : is also scheduled for the next round of upgrades, thanks for the suggestion! Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle does work, and I think I will also be ordering a Bloodstained Mire with it as well.
Chandra, Fire Artisan : Love her, would highly recommend. Cards effects like Commune with Lava are awesome, and have usually always performed well in this deck. Added to that is the fact that I don't have to spend mana for that option past the first turn to cast her, and she is also another target that distracts from myself, and if I can ult her (I haven't been able to yet) then it's just icing on the cake.
Expedition Map : Yeah frankly I think this is kind of a bad pick too, thinking about it now. It's mainly just in there for Nykthos, since Nykthos is a little more critical now that my average curve has gone up a tad bit. Another mana rock would probably suit me better and more consistently. I know you mentioned a Mana Vault , but what else do you think? I am thinking Basalt Monolith , Gilded Lotus , or a Thran Dynamo . Leaning heavily towards the Monolith and Gilded Lotus. Granted, they're more expensive to get out than Vault, but the 4 cost associated with Vault kind of puts me off of it, idk.
Ghirapur Orrery : I think you have this mixed up with Vedalken Orrery . Ghirapur is super value for me, letting me sac two lands, then play those two lands with Crucible of Worlds , and I'm also frequently out of cards in hand. I'd be willing to remove it for a similar effect though, if I knew one that existed.
Curse of Opulence : I like it, great suggestion.
Rings of Brighthearth : I've wanted this card for ages and kept putting it off because of price, and now it's even more expensive. RIP. I do want to add it asap. Not sure what I would do with Sculpting Steel
Spine of Ish Sah : I want to change this but I can't justify it. It just combos with Welder too well. But Scour from Existence has been on my mind for a long time now solely for the exiling. Haphazard Bombardment seems awesome tbh, that might get picked up by me eventually.
Sundial of the Infinite : My meta runs a lot of board wipes, but tbh thinking about it, they don't often cast them on my turn, so this is probably largely useless for me.
Meekstone has always hindered me more than helped me, and not super useful in my meta, but I think it's high time Crawlspace made a return. Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs is actually insane, that may beat out Crawlspace for me. Wow.
Bottom line is I am heavily thinking about scrapping the heavy artifact theme and going with a more focused deck. I'm just hesitant because the cards in question have won me many games.
1 month ago
Scour from Existence for pesky enchantments
Risk Factor low CMC for high damage or cards
Pyrohemia is excellent with Stuffy Doll which fits Neheb
Scour from Existence occurrence in decks from the last year
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