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Creature — Wall
Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt to and dealt by Fog Bank.
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Fog Bank Discussion
3 days ago
kiagam Thank you for the all the advice i'll most likely pick up a Bant Panorama for the ability to tutor for basics. However I have a problem with Rolling Stones, and Wakestone Gargoyle and that is I may be able to attack with my walls but it doesn't mean anything if my walls cant use their toughtness as power. As for the Colossus of Akros i'm on the fence but i'll probably add it back into the deck and Fog Bank is good but I dislike that it cant actually deal any damage unlike Guard Gomazoa which is similar but I feel is better in almost every way in this deck. Lastly as far as the Dormant Sliver and Hivestone interaction is concerned I think that both cards are at least decent in this deck especially since my playgroup has a few sliver decks so it helps control them and give me card draw or just buffs my things to the level of the other slivers.
3 days ago
Land - Bant Panorama is cheap and effective
And i think dormant sliver for that 1 interaction with hivestone is unnecessary. You will never pull it off without tutors.
Felidar sovereign only really works with angelic chorus, all other healing is too residual, I would think he never activates (can be removed easily, you don't have anything to return it and little life gain)
5 days ago
Throw in a couple walls that have "indestructible" or "prevent all damage" Like Fog Bank or Wall of Glarewith something giving it indestructible/protection and then add Fortified Area. Believe me, you'll like that.
5 days ago
Hey arvish! Thanks for taking the time to suggest some things, I really appreciate it! With the Blessed Alliances in the mainboard I had been thinking of removing them, for 2 Sphinx's Revelations, and your reaction to them finally pushed me into doing so.
As for Lingering Souls and Secure the Wastes the flashback for Lingering Souls needs black mana so it is only a 3 cost for 2 1/1 flyers and Secure the Wastes would just be another win condition that I don't really need since I already have about 4.
I had Myth Realized in the deck for a little, but unless I had 4 copies I never drew it early enough. It was fun when I did draw it or had it in my opening hand, but it was pretty much a dead card otherwise.
Finally, I didn't know about the general feeling that 8 counterspells was the magic number, so I have changed that by removing the Spell Snares and replacing them with 1 Fog Bank and 1 Jace, Unraveler of Secrets.
Again, thank you heaps for taking a look and suggesting so many things! It really helped me out, and any further help would be welcomed!
5 days ago
Have you considered Soothsaying, Nissa, Steward of Elements, Spellbook, Edric, Spymaster of Trest or even Statecraft. Statecraft is best if you can move, flicker, or bounce it; or if you have a win condition outside of combat damage because it basically makes all of your creatures Fog Bank. If you're more agro then I'd recommend Edric, Spymaster of Trest.
Glacial Chasm is another good way to keep people from agroing onto you.
6 days ago
consuming aberation is good, but I think there are better cards that would synergize more. The goal is to deal people damage from drawing, not mill and swing with a huge creature. Probably take out Fog Bank because you already have Guard Gomazoa. Master of the Feast could backfire if someone removes Nekusar, then you'll just be giving opponents free cards. Same deal with Howling Mine, Dictate of Kruphix, and Forced Fruition. Better to stick to reliable spells that you can control in my opinion, BUT!! It's good to keep a couple in if you're able to protect Nekusar, especially if you keep in other creatures and enchantments that do the same thing as Nekusar. Just something to think about. Grafted Exoskeleton is more reliable than Phyresis. Megrim is just a worse version of Liliana's Caress and Raiders' Wake. I doubt anyone is going to fall for Minds Aglow unless you can manage to flash in something that screws them, but if you have enough mana you can just do it yourself and screw everyone anyway. Wheel of Fortune would be great, but it is a bit expensive.
1 week ago
Balzeron: First of all I would like to say that I am honored that my deck has helped inspire your deck building. Secondly, I have some responses to you comments below:
Amaranthine Wall and Hornet Nest are ones that I am still considering. The indestructibility is definitely a nice ability and being able to make a bunch of 1/1 flying death touchers when someone blocks the nest is pretty awesome.
Fog Bank, Guard Gomazoa, and Mindbender Spores are all great cards if you are going a more defensive route. I chose to exclude them because I am a more aggressive list and I wanted big (4 toughness or greater), cheap walls.
My deck personally doesn't want cards like Manor Gargoyle, Ezuri, Claw of Progress, Woolly Razorback, Plumeveil, Soulbound Guardians, or Fortified Area as all of these cards either have power greater than 2 or pump my creatures power. I rely heavily on staying at 2 power or less so I can abuse Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive or Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa.
The same goes for Doorkeeper. Mill is already hard enough to pull off with a dedicated mill deck in EDH because decks are large and there are 3 opponents. I'd rather play either larger walls or defenders with more relevant abilities.
The banding suggestions are interesting. I had to re-read the rules on banding and I did not realize it also affects attacking creatures. Those could be interesting, I'll have to think about that.
Spidersilk Armor and Tower Defense are awesome with Arcades and may very well end up in my final list. Right now I want to try out Hold the Gates over Spidersilk Armor as it has a higher upside and I already have a number of answers for fliers (Wonder, Angelic Wall, Wall of Tanglecord, Wall of Denial and Arcades himself). Since this list is aggressive, I think vigilance is actually a more impactful keyword in my deck. I already have a pseudo Tower Defense in Defender of the Order. I don't think Defender is particularly better than the Defense, but I have an old foil of it from Legions which I just really want to play.
Thanks for the comments and if you ever want another pair of eyes on your deck, let me know.
1 week ago
This is actually a deck I really want to build, and know nothing about making a commander deck, so I'm keeping a very close eye on this deck! Some card suggestions/ideas I personally have would be:
Amaranthine Wall, I played this wall in a draft game a few weeks ago and the indestructible ability pretty much won the game for me by itself, and is what inspired me to think about this kind of deck. Manor Gargoyle is another good choice for this.
Champion's Helm, Good equipment to keep our commander safe
Doorkeeper, the mill potential is pretty high here
Ezuri, Claw of Progress, since so many walls have 0 power,
Wave of Reckoning, as another board wipe
Woolly Razorback, doesn't have defender, but is cheap, becomes a 7/7, and can block literally any amount of damage 3 times
Shield Bearer, Wall of Caltrops, Wall of Shields, Fortified Area, Baton of Morale, Helm of Chatzuk, Formation, Remember banding? I used to love banding! I think banding would compliment a wall deck very well. Being able to dictate where your opponents damage goes is a big plus I think
What do you think of these suggestions? I really want to buy the cards for a deck like this soon, and your deck is a huge inspiration to me.