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|Commander Anthology (CM1)||Common|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Common|
|Urza's Saga (USG)||Common|
|Promo set for Gatherer (PSG)||Common|
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Priest of Titania
Creature — Elf Druid
: Add to your mana pool for each Elf in play.
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Priest of Titania Discussion
2 days ago
Shimmer/ Paradox Engine allows for mass, instant speed storm, at an insane ease. Yisan, while being better with Engine (untapping Yisan allows for fetching Llanowar Elves into Priest of Titania into Shimmer Myr into Temur Sabertooth or whatever, then keep untapping Yisan to go off until Great Oak Guardian then Sabertooth into infinite mana) still isn't an instant-speed spell, that is the issue. If the gamplan can be Swords to Plowshares ed at sorcery speed, the deck is doing something wrong.
If, just by playing lands, maybe a dork or some rocks, and passing, drawing cards, biding your time until the winning combo or impossibly difficult to win through lock hits the table, respond by casting everything you need to until you win.
This playstyle is Legacy Resetide ( Reset / High Tide with untap effects and a deck made up of Islands and instants, ready to storm until it casts a lethal Stroke of Genius on the opponent). I simply wanted to see if it was possible to accomplish a similar playstyle in Yeva.
You can't build Resetide in EDH because there isn't the consistency of running 7 Resets and 7 Tides (Legacy uses Cunning Wish as a playset for the 7 copies of every card in the deck it needs), nor can it even run enough instant speed draw and untap and ramp to pull it off without them, so mono-blue is out.
Zur can storm off at instant speed using Necropotence and Shimmer Myr , however doesn't have the luxury of doing it at anytime but on their own endstep, making it not a true-instant speed storm, as it can't do it in repsonse to an opponent winning on the opponent's turn.
Yeva, this list, can do it, only given a good hand and a lot of mana, but it can, with GoG and Cat. That was my interest in the deck. The issue was getting Cat, dorks that tapped for enough, and GoG, the mana to go off, and the interaction/protection to pull it all off.
Yeva was a long-shot, but if any deck could do it, Yeva seems like the one. The issue I found immediatly was wincon-lightness and tutor-lightness. The Cloudstone Curio , Paradox Engine wincons of the deck only go off at sorcery speed, so have big issues, however Shimmer Myr solves that, and allows for Walking Ballista , Candelabra of Tawnos (for Gaea's Cradle ), and more rocks to go off. The issue again is tutoring for that, then for the new combos. If this list had the tutor-density that a 3 color list like Zur would, it would work amazingly. As is, it just doesn't get there.
I am going to work further on this and try to get it to work, but Soren841 may be right that this is too difficult to accomplish.
Resetide may have friends in Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir . I may put some time into testing him out. That 5 mana cost is my biggest issue.
dingusdingo on Flex
1 week ago
Nice deck! A lot of neat combos tucked in here. I have some suggested edits for you though!
Mouth of Ronom is a card you could very easily run. Green doesn't have a lot of targeted removal, and the opportunity cost for playing it is extremely low. If you swap your forests for snow covered forests, you're golden
I'm confused why you're running a fetchland at all. You don't need color fixing, and the deck thinning is extremely marginal when you consider how much it can slow you down against cards like Root Maze Back to Basics Thalia, Heretic Cathar Blood Moon Magus of the Moon Frozen AEther Kismet
Some of the card draw you run is pretty inefficient or extremely expensive. I'm specifically looking at Seer's Sundial and Sandstone Oracle . Sundial costs you 6 mana for the first card, while Sandstone is always dependent on opponents hand sizes for card draw, making it unreliable (and also costing 7 mana). I'm also not a huge fan of Sea Gate Wreckage but the opportunity cost for running it is extremely low. Have you considered Memory Jar or Howling Mine ? With your massive mana production Memory Jar could allow you to draw 7 and dump your entire hand. Howling Mine will accelerate your draws much earlier, although it is symmetrical. Beast Whisperer could be a good replacement if you don't want to give advantage to opponents, you certainly run enough creatures to justify. Life's Legacy is also a solid choice, especially since you're already running Greater Good
You run quite a few basic land tutors, some of them pretty low card quality. When you have access to Gaea's Cradle and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx , why are you spending mana and card resources looking for basic lands? Specifically looking at Cultivate Kodama's Reach Nissa's Pilgrimage Seek the Horizon Journey of Discovery and Yavimaya Elder . If you ran fewer than 40 lands in this deck, you probably wouldn't have to run so many cards to deck thin to help your top deck, you could pretty easily cut to 34-36 lands. I'm also not wild about the very high CMC Hour of Promise , but it does search for non-basics. I'm also not very hyped about Tempt with Discovery , if you are playing against even mediocre or up skill level opponents you will be paying 4 CMC to search for one non-basic land. You're only getting more than one land off Tempt against bad players, or against players who can drop a Gaea's Cradle or other super value land against you.
Speaking of ramp, you should consider running Priest of Titania as well as Karametra's Acolyte . Currently you are very vulnerable to Armageddon and Ravages of War , two cards that see play in stax decks (as well as others). Having Ramunap and Crucible is a good choice, but you won't have access to those every single game you get hit by Armageddon. You should really consider mainboarding Carpet of Flowers as well, its virtually guaranteed someone will be running blue in a pod of 4, and it will let you hit turn 2 Azusa, and provide more value as the game goes later for very small investment.
On the topic of Stax, your deck is super vulnerable to getting caught. Almost all your draw is 3+ CMC, you have basically no removal, and you run a barebones 0/1/2 CMC ramp package. Thorn of Amethyst Sphere of Resistance Winter Orb Static Orb Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Lodestone Golem all cause immense problems for your deck. I understand that if you start your draw engine, you can escape from underneath them by dumping lands with your commander, but what do you do if one of those stax pieces lands on turn 1? Going fast works against stax, but there's no way you're going faster than a deck that runs the full suite of 0/1/2 cmc artifact ramp (which most stax decks do). You aren't going fast enough to threaten a win on turn 3, so you need to include removal. Having no removal is also a huge problem when beatdown is your wincon. What do you do against Moat ? Or Island Sanctuary ? Or Solitary Confinement ? A single piece of removal in the form of an 8 cmc creature is just not gonna cut it against real decks.
I would also recommend casting a really critical eye towards anything 5+ cmc. Cards that cost that much that don't actively win or directly lead to winning are most likely not worth the mana investment or the card space, even though you are a deck that ramps mana and draws cards. To put it in other terms, there are better things you could be doing with that mana. Your primary win con costs 10 mana to cast, 20 more to use, for a whopping 30 mana. Its forcing you to run pretty low quality cards like Mana Reflection and Zendikar Resurgent to get to that absurd amount of mana, on top of 40 lands. Running lower CMC spells will allow you to free up those expensive CMC slots that only enable you to play other expensive spells.
A couple more cards in specific you should reconsider Akroma's Memorial Ring of Three Wishes . Memorial you can replace with Lightning Greaves as a haste enabler for Craterhoof Lines, and Ring happens to cost you 10 mana to get a single card to hand, 15 for 2 cards, 20 for 3 cards, which we would call inefficient.
Would recommend Staff of Domination , especially if you include Priest of Titania or Karametra's Acolyte . Opens up lines for infinite mana and drawing your deck, or just provides a solid dump when you have too much mana and nowhere to go. I would also recommend Eldritch Evolution as another strong tutor. Uncage the Menagerie and Weird Harvest are a bit lower quality, but potentially what you're looking for as well. And I can't stress enough, add some removal to your deck. There are plenty of hyper efficient 1/2 cmc removal spells in green, as well as creatures that pack removal on ETB, which combines well with all the green tutors you run.
1 week ago
Hey, I would say my decks power level floats around 8, and I would say yours is ~6 based on the speed (10 being cEDH ready). I for sure don't think you should lower your creature count, but should instead look to increase it with your trample effects. You need to commit to your strategy instead of stretching yourself. I had an early version of my deck that looks similar to this with the gods + Oketra the True and Odric, Lunarch Marshal for powerful swings, but ended up cutting the deck down to make it faster with the dorks. As for cuts, Luminarch Ascension is a bit slow and puts a target on you. Crush Contraband and Return to Dust also seem like a bit much, but it depends on your meta. I would replace them with creatures that destroy artifacts/enchantments like Qasali Pridemage . I also never liked Angelic Skirmisher , at that mana cost I want creatures with immediate impact when they hit the board. I also don't like Genesis Wave . It's a fun card, but I struggled to get good waves, and I have tons of dorks and Gaea's Cradle . I'd imagine it's tough in this deck. Also Priest of Titania would be money with all the elves you have.
1 week ago
ToolmasterOfBrainerd thanks for reminding me that, i've posted an older list but i forgot to replace Priest of Titania with Elvish Mystic . However that's exactly my problem.. Goblin decks are usally faster than mine so i don't usually get to set up my win conditions that are basically Joraga Warcaller , Ezuri, Renegade Leader , Triumph of the Hordes and Elvish Promenade . Do you think i could cut out a couple of lands to bring Triumph of the Hordes to 4x instead of 2x?
1 week ago
That's a solid budget elves deck! One thing to note is that Priest of Titania is not legal in modern. Try Elvish Mystic instead or Elvish Archdruid . Goblins and other burn variants will be tough matchups because they are faster and they have a lot of burn.
Elvish Promenade seems win-more. When you're behind it doesn't do enough to get you back in and when you're ahead it's overkill.
Dwynen should do a lot in the matchup.
1 week ago
PlatinumOne i've got a mono green elves. My deck list is this: creatures:
Lands: 20x Forest
I know it's a budget list but i'm basically new to magic...
2 weeks ago
Inkmoth: Happy to help! I added you on discord (username AcademyHeadmaster), but I'm not super well-versed with the platform so let me know if you don't get my message. In terms of the deck, I've got some more ideas to fix the card flow problem. Upon further consideration I don't think my previous suggestion of Guardian Project will cut it (too slow, not a creature for yeva, and you already played a lot of creatures by the time you drop the enchantment anyway). Multani's Acolyte might be enough as a second, albeit worse, Elvish Visionary . I wouldn't mind increasing the number of elves for the mana producers who rely on it and I found that Generous Patron type effects really overperform. As you said in the primer, it's an early body that replaces itself and can later be important as an elf for mana producers or for Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip. Similarly, how much would it hurt to run Viridian Zealot over Caustic Caterpillar . I think the elf synergies justify the one extra cmc in this budget build. Sometimes you just need one more elf for Priest of Titania type effects to go infinite and in that case I wouldn't mind just running out Viridian Zealot . Finally, I've found that Cryptolith Rite has underperformed. Too many of your cards already produce mana and you don't want to be running out cards like Reclamation Sage just to tap because you have a rite out. Maybe Joraga Treespeaker as another mana elf? I'm going to try these changes for now and I'll get back to you on their performance
2 weeks ago
Really cool deck! I'm glad you built a version for us mortals who have to play edh on a budget. I've been playing a proxy version of the budget deck with my friends for a few days (I like to get a feel for how a deck plays before I buy it) and I have some feedback to share. The main problem I've run into is I can make a ton of mana, but don't have anything to do with it. Maybe I've been keeping hands that should be mulligans because all they do is make a lot of mana, but I think the deck is struggling from having a few less tutors than the non budget version (obviously since tutors can be expensive). Elvish Harbinger is kinda weird and definitely slow but does the job of getting Priest of Titania or Elvish Archdruid if you need mana or Fierce Empath or Fauna Shaman for more tutoring or even something like Reclamation Sage if you really need it. It's also an elf for all the elf synergies. Time of Need is definitely niche but can get Marwyn, the Nurturer or Yisan, the Wanderer Bard in a pinch. On the other hand, maybe it's worth considering playing some regular old card draw to replace the lost tutors. Guardian Project is a strictly worse Beast Whisperer (not an elf) but is a consideration for the budget build. Also, how do you feel about Quest for Renewal ? It's definitely slow, but might be worth it in a budget deck like this which isn't trying to be as fast as possible. Finally, I found that Scryb Ranger really underperforms. Being two more mana than Quirion Ranger and not an elf really hurts, and I'm not sure if you need two copies of the effect in the deck anyway. I've been destroying with the deck (my playgroup is seriously about edh, but I wouldn't consider it cutthroat competitive) and find it super fun to play.
Priest of Titania occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%