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Grim Return Discussion
3 months ago
So we are looking to cut 27 cards. I would start with cutting 3 lands. Probably some basics. That'll get you closer to 37. I think going down to 37 creatures would be a good idea as well. You want to be creature heavy for the Sidisi hits.Geth, Lord of the Vault is a good card. But you have also said that you have never been able to use him. I like him as much as you do. But if you can't ever use him then why bother? Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip as much a her minus abilities help you recur creatures they will be hard to get too and will cost you by discarding, and you deck isn't specked to gain from discarding cards. Butcher of Malakir would be better with some sac outlets which you are not running. However it does do well with all the tokens you could make. So I am conflicted. Deathgreeter could be replaced with something like Zulaport Cutthroat. I am having trouble seeing more on he creature front as of right now. Moving on the non creature spells. Morbid Curiosity on average you will only get 3 cards from sacing a non token creature. Grim Return while a good card is super situational and I think I have only seen you play it once. I know that is only 8 suggestions but that is what i see for my first round that I would cut
4 months ago
very great start. i would start by playing more tutors Dark Petition and Beseech the Queen are some good budget ones( Vampiric Tutor is ideal for life loss. graft is really powerful in this deck, so adding a couple of cards such as Novijen Sages and Vigean Graftmage ( also using Sidisi, Undead Vizer with graft or Unspeakable Symbol and marchesa lets you tutor every end step). i would also run 1-2 more sacrifice outlets like Bloodflow Connoisseur and Carrion Feeder to easily dodge removal (mostly exile effects) take out Grim Return and replace it with Victimize. Chromatic Lantern is very good in any deck and especially if you're running more then 2 colors. Vampiric Rites could be switched with Greed. cards like Phyrexian Arena and Phyrexian Reclamation are great for advantage and help trigger dethrone. Insurrection will most likely just win the game on the spot and stealing all your opponents creatures ( using dethrone, marchesa's ability and a sac outlet) Opal Palace lets marchesa enter with a +1/+1 counter. even cards as simple as Mulldrifter and Burnished Hart can easily pull you ahead in the game.http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/marchesa-the-black-death-2/ heres my deck list if you wanna check it out.
4 months ago
Looks good! However, a few quick suggestions:
3) No Living Death?
Happy deckbuilding! :)
4 months ago
Ok, so I'm a fairly major competitive discard lover, and there are some fantastic tools in black and black green you should look at. First and foremost Collective Brutality- It protects you in the earlier turns and fuels the yard in a really efficient way. Lotleth Troll and Zombie Infestation could similarly provide earlt game blockers. You have two options deciding graveyard creatures, big hasty win game now creatures, or creatures with an etb so large it tilts the board in your favour. Pick one or the other, as it will lend the deck consistancy. I'd either go all in on gaea's revenge and Craterhoof Behemoth/Timbermare or Massacre Wurm/. If you go for etb creatures Impromptu Raid is worth a look, although it might still be slow. Vengevine decks exist in this format. Unburial Rites is traditional for ressurection and a lot of combo decks run it. Delirium Skeins and Raven's Crime can help soak up your opponents control package and leave room for duress in the sideboard.
On that note, acceleration. Pentad Prism leaves mana open for instants and accelerates to 4 mana t2. Sakura-Tribe Elder will get lands and be sheoldredable should you need to hard cast stuff. Elves of Deep Shadow will help soak up creature removal before you spend multiple cards to get Path to Exiled, and get those key cards cast.Card advantage tools like Phyrexian Arena will be neccesary when an opponent has a hand of Negate/Cancel/Chronomaton/Path to Exile.
5 months ago
While i use Quicksilver Dragon as protection for my general, i agree that if hardcasted it's quite underwhelming. I agree with you on the signets and Dragonlord Ojutai, i might exchange him for a Grim Return! Thanks for the good advice!
5 months ago
Hey, as a lover of all things Tribal, cool deck idea! Just a few comments, if that's okay? Quicksilver Dragon seems super under-whelming, especially for 6 mana, definitely would cut. Definitely would switch out Golgari Signet for either Rakdos Signet or Boros Signet- you're super heavy in double/triple red costs. Grim Return would be a fun card for you to run for sure. Compared to all of the Dragons you have available in the world of magic Dragonlord Ojutai would be a pass, personally. And lastly, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon is cool and all- but seeing as he's the only one dealing damage with -1/-1 and poison, maybe a pass? There are ways to give your creatures all Infect, but they're not here. Cool stuff! +1 for sure! My Tribes are Zombies Zombie Tribal (2nd Gen), Warriors Unstoppable Warrior Tribal Input Welcome!, and Humans United and Unyielding Deck if you wanted to give me some feedback too
6 months ago
It is ultimately your choice, I just think that Oviya is more budget friendly and straight forward. Cards like Reanimate, Necromancy, and other recursion spells like Oversold Cemetery really start to eat away at the budget. There are a few budget recursion spells like Phyrexian Reclamation, Animate Dead, Dread Return, and Grim Return which are perfectly fine. So Gonti is still an option. But if you already own the C14 Guided by Nature precon I would definitely go Oviya.
Should mention that almost all my decks start out ~$50 and I improve them over time. I (finally) own most the staples now so my decks tend to be $100-$200 by the time im done with them. I proxy the expensive ones I own but are used by other decks to keep it cheap. That way it still allows me to raise the power level of new decks. No sense in buying 4x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre when you can just own 1 and proxy it. No one has ever given me issues with that. Just something to keep in mind. You shouldn't have to put a mortgage on your house just so you can play EDH lol.
6 months ago
Ill be doing this in pieces.
Foul Renewal - I love this card But its bad. (I shoe horned it into my early builds i loved it so much.) There are powerful reanimation spells. and powerful kill spells. This is neither.
Grasp of Darkness - This kills a single already pretty weak stated dude.
Grim Return - Like Renewal there are just too many conditions on this card.
Nightmarish End - you dont have the draw to justify this. And if you did I still dont think it'd be worth the slot.
To the Slaughter - You're giving your opponent way too much control with this.
Things you could add to fill similar roles:
Whip of Erebos - Ik ik, exiles the guy. so bad. But hear me out. Its a static artifact that gives your hordes lifelink. a very powerful keyword. and the important part....its reusable! Dont force this on some of your powerhosue cards early. Use it in the mid-late game.
Victimize - your particular build makes zombies. A zombie token can be used to get back a whole TWO guys.
Phyrexian Reclamation - I dont think i need to explain this one.
Strands of Night - Your swamps become reanimation spells as long as this exists in play. CAN BE USED AT INSTANT SPEED (ability). its a bit tricky to get used too like Lake of the Dead. but it doesnt have a high skill floor.
Animate Dead - CHEAP (in cmc) powerful reanimation for an early game lily discard.
Dread Return - Like victimized, Brings back two things. Albeit not at the same time like the aforementioned.
Kill spells: The important thing to note here, Kill spells are strong. But theyre stronger when they come with a body. They cant always though so we make do.
Liliana of the Dark Realms - one of the strongest EDH lilianas. With sub optimal protection an ult can be seen. She acts like solemn in that she gets you more basics. And why shes in this category, that [-x]. Whats so good about her is you dont play her for this ability. but she is that -x/-x kill spell when you need it to be. Her only downside is the anti-synergy with your commanders flip side and other lily cards. Ill delve into that more in the planeswalker section.
Royal Assassin - You dont have to let combat go through to use his ability, they declare attackers you kill a thing.
Shriekmaw - Triggers lily to flip and kills a thing.
Shadowborn Demon - This is and still stands as my decks MVP. Even with the printing of Noxious Gearhulk. It comes in kills basically anything can BLOCK both flyers and grounders. and then you get a sac on the upkeep. we're playing black so thats a good thing, not a bad thing.
Sudden Spoiling - This is only good if you focus on making dudes. which you do! This cant be stopped or interacted with and suddenly your 2/2's kill literally anything. And the 2/2 sticks around because hes clearly so strong. Doubles as a Fog if need be.