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Scarab Feast Discussion
2 weeks ago
I dig the sideboard tech a lot, pjeseb.
Cool theme, too.
Arashin Cleric seems good in the sideboard against Burn and Atog, as does Crimson Acolyte. Soul's Attendant is also good against Burn and Mono-Black. Kithkin Zealot is good against Mono-Black. Disenchant may be better than Sanctifiers against fast decks like Bogles. I'd also sideboard Scarab Feast against 5C Tron.
Foul-Tongue Shriek might be a cool, surprise closer.
2 weeks ago
Hey, PhineasMTGMaster - cool idea. Have you looked at decl lists like 8-Rack? There are a lot of cool discard-themed decks out there, including Hollow One and Dredge, depending on whether or not you want to discard or make your opponent discard. Even Jund depends on a lot of disruption.
However, a lot of popular discard or disruption decks include costly cards like Liliana of the Veil.
My concern here is that your mana costs are too high to let you play enough creatures to win or enough disruption to keep your opponent from winning in Modern. More black, less blue, and fewer creatures might help.
Here, I think you can lower your mana curve (and then re-tool your mana-base), keep costs down, and have a lot of fun.
Maybe something like:
- 3x Liliana's Caress
- 3x Shrieking Affliction
- 2x Waste Not
- 3x Blackmail
- 3x Funeral Charm
- 3x Wrench Mind
- 4x Opt
- 3x Torment of Hailfire
- 3x Dream Salvage
- 4x The Rack
- 2x Doomblade
- 2x Go for the Throat
- 1x Murderous Cut
- 4x Choked Estuary
- 4x Temple of Deceit
- 2x Island
- 14x Swamp
- 2x Lay Bare the Heart
- 2x Duress
- 2x Divest
- 3x Scarab Feast
- 2x Spell Snare
- 2x Spell Pierce
- 2x Mana Leak
With a bigger budget, you can improve the mana base, get better disruption (e.g. Inquisition of Kozilek), or explore a full list of a discard archetype like 8-Rack.
1 month ago
Lilbrudder: As a one shot effect, I do have to say that High Tide has been showing some promise. I have tweaked the island count to assist with this however it can be very helpful in deploying Paradox Engine while still having countermagic mana open. I also run Kiora's Follower (since I'm still running Birthing Pod) and Bloom Tender (I know your opinion on this card :P) and have been testing Freed from the Real as a backup line. A bit narrow I know, but it's been pretty good thus far.
On the topic of Cremate, what're your thoughts on Scarab Feast instead? While you don't draw cards off the ability natively, the fact that it hits three cards at once seems a lot better at hosing graveyard based decks like Kess. But it it still provides card advantage against non-graveyard decks.
Also, how has Training Grounds been performing for you? I'm currently testing it out but haven't seen in much.
1 month ago
Why not just The Rack as well?
I would go -2 Dimir Machinations -3 Mire's Toll +1 Raven's Crime +4 Blackmail. Blackmail is a better turn 1 discard spell than Toll, and you hope to have them have very few cards in hand so the possibility of having 4 cards in hand turn 4 seems unlikely.
Funeral Charm is also good as it lets you make them discard on their draw step. Perhaps cut the Scarab Feast for them?
3 months ago
I have been playing mono-black Vampires in Modern for quite some time now. It is actually more competitive than a lot of people think. It's like mono-black Jund, and I've out-Junded Jund with vamps before. But this also means I play much more disruption than the build laid out here. My version runs 6 Discard (either a 4/2 or a 3/3 split among Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek), 6 Removal (4 Fatal Push and 2 flex slots), 4 Planeswalkers (the best in Modern - Liliana of the Veil), a much lower creature count at 21, and 23 lands.
Now, you have correctly identified Bloodghast to be the best Vampire in Modern. It does everything you want it to do in this deck - it is a recurring threat, you can sac it to scry (Viscera Seer), sac it to drain (Kalastria Highborn), discard it to Lili's +1, etc. The second best vamp is probably Vampire Nocturnus because its ability is just insane. I'd max out the number of Gatekeeper of Malakir because the sac effect is very strong in the format. 4 Asylum Visitor is great for card advantage and Madness is great for discard effects as well. Finally, I play 4 Viscera Seer because it synergises well with the other creatures. With Seer, you can do the fetch land-scry trick with Bloodghast, you can fix the top of your deck for Nocturnus, you can sac your entire board with Kalastria Highborn for extra reach, and you at least get to scry when opponent tries to kill your creatures.
Some comments on why I won't run the creatures you are playing...they are only good when there is a critical mass or density of creatures on board. Captivating Vampire really shines when you have at least another couple or more creatures already on the board, and you can forget about ever activating his second ability in a typical Modern game. In contrast, Vampire Nocturnus works great even when he's the only creature on board (a common sight after you have grinded the opponent out with discard and removal a la Jund). Vampire Lacerator is only good if played Turn 1 and even then it gets outclassed very quickly and then becomes a liability (Tom Ross tried the card in a very early build and called it 'embarrassing'!). Stromkirk Condemned and Indulgent Aristocrat are also only good when you have at least 2 other creatures on board, which I have found to be quite rare in a format full of removal. Furthermore, you cannot afford the card disadvantage, I don't think, if you are not playing Bloodghast.
Lastly, lands - I play 8 fetches to activate Bloodghast and to turn on Revolt for Fatal Push, 4 Mutavault as an honorary Vampire which gets Nocturnus bonus and can be sacrificed to Highborn (man-lands are traditionally used for getting in damage when both players are topdecking after a war of attrition - think Jund again), 4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth so you can produce black mana with Mutavault and fetchlands (you'd want to save fetches for Revolt Fatal Push and explosive Bloodghast turns), and 7 basic Swamps.
My sideboard includes a little bit of everything, Collective Brutality against Burn/Infect, Damnation against creature heavy decks, Duress as additional discard against control, Fulminator Mage and Ghost Quarter to kill lands, Nihil Spellbomb, Surgical Extraction and Scarab Feast for graveyard decks, Pithing Needle for various activated abilities, Vampire Hexmage for planeswalkers, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet for Jund or Abzan mirrors.
Just sharing my own experience playing Vamps in Modern for the longest time.
3 months ago
darklord1135 thanks for pointing out the Lingering Souls bit. Scarab Feast was a card I was curious about if it would translate into modern as cheap instant speed graveyard hate. DarkStarStorm is right about those cards being in the maybe board. I keep cards in the maybe board as cards in my toolbox depending on the meta. I will see if I can update the card explanations tomorrow. Ive been meaning to do a full update on the primer section but havent gotten around to it.
As for Relic of Progenitus, Im not sure how I feel about it. Although it can be good against a delirium deck. It may do well against the mirror. Ill have to test that.
3 months ago
Amazing deck but card explanation needs work, you don't say anything on Lingering Souls and some cards like Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet aren't in the deck anymore. As for sideboard, some cards are just bad like Scarab Feast which only exiles three cards for a whole mana! If you play it for the cycling sometimes to draw a card, I would recommend Relic of Progenitus or to save mana maybe Tormod's Crypt. Another one is Victim of Night, in which terminate is just so much better, AND you don't need the double black. But great deck +1!
4 months ago
arice332534 I could definetly run it in the sideboard, but scavenger isn't the only card to remove a graveyard and blood sun does nothing against the other cards. Also, just like you said, nobody in our playgroup runs scavenger so it's not a problem for me.
In my opinion, blizzard made sure this deck doesn't get out of casual play.