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|Core Set 2019 (M19)||Common|
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Wall of Mist
Creature — Wall
Defender (This creature can't attack.)
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Wall of Mist Discussion
12 hours ago
Keeping some creatures in your sideboard could help against aggro. Surge Mare can eat most burn spells, kill small creatures, trade with somewhat larger ones, or swing into a empty board if you want to loot, and Wall of Mist is just as bulky, but has no utility. Diligent Excavator can help you mill, and Vodalian Arcanist is a mana dork, but they both die to Lightning Strike.
1 week ago
Why not Millstone? It's in M19, so it's standard legal. Also, I would go with about 2 extra land and more counter spells. Two additional land to power cards like Mill Stone and Surge Mare. To make room, you can cut back a bit on creatures, then add cards like Essence Scatter and Negate.
I disagree that Tempest Djinn has no place in a mill deck-- you need another way to win. However, I don't think your deck needs more creatures. Rather, I think you can trim Wall of Mist and either (both?) Omenspeaker or Dimir Informant.
Oh, a less expensive (money cost, not mana cost) version of Mission Briefing is Flood of Recollection. It's sorcery speed instead of instant speed, but same mana cost and does the same thing. It also only costs pennies.
Cool deck idea! +1 from me!
1 week ago
Thanks for the feedback!
The Induced Amnesia + Release to the Wind combo looks interesting, especially because it can be used to mill the opponent or to draw cards yourself. But it would require a bigger reconstruction of the deck, so I will shelve this idea for now.
Shore Keeper, Wall of Mist and Diamond Mare are interesting options. Shore Keeper looks a bit too costly. In my testing, paying the 6 mana for Memorial to Genius was already too costly, because I always needed the mana for my immediate survival and was never able to activate it. Wall of Mist looks rather boring because it cannot trade with early creatures. But Diamond Mare could be very good because of the lifegain. I'll try this one first!
1 week ago
1 week ago
You're at 64 cards,
If this were mine I'd cut
2x Barrier of Bones (sideboard vs Aggro... maybe?)
2x Wall of Mist (sideboard vs Aggro... maybe?)
That would leave room for 2 new cards!
+2 Admiral's Order (AMAZING protection for attackers) OR +2 Curious Obsession sounds decent on paper is AWESOME on Nightveil Sprite (surveil right before you draw) or Dimir Spybug (extremely hard to block so he gets in for draws REALLY easily)
I play both in my Dimir deck and Curious Obsession is GREAT!
Mission Briefing is GOOD!!! You Surviel BEFORE you pick a card to copy, MEANING you can pick a card that you just put there by survieling with Mission Briefing it'self. AND you have until the end of the turn to cast... whatever you picked. You don't have to cast it right then... :) Kinda mana expensive... SUPER VERSATILE! If you have them, try them out!
One last card to consider might be either Dire Fleet Poisoner or Price of Fame. Both behave like instant speed removal, the poisoner flash-blocks to get past hex-proof!!! (Ignore his textbox besides the FLASH+DEATHTOUCH) He's pretty decent.
I'm still pumped from last FNM!!! My Dimir deck did pretty dang well!
3 weeks ago
This is a really cool idea, and with how cheap but powerful all the cards are, I think it could be really good! One big suggestion I have though: drop the red. You don't really have enough instants/sorceries to make Electrostatic Field that useful, especially when you have a lot of combat power from your walls anyway. Plus, with only 4 ways to create a red mana, you'll almost never get to play them. You could of course change the mana base, but trying to go into four colors like that will wreck your deck's consistency. Maybe go for Suspicious Bookcase or Wall of Mist instead.
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the input, Kizmetto.
You're probably right that aggro will be a tough matchup. My idea behind playing no creatures at all was to make all the opponents' removals useless. But if only one creaturespell manages to slip through my counters and I can't find a copy of Deep Freeze, then I'm in a lot of trouble. So either I should add another copy of Deep Freeze or play some creatures for blocking. Considering creatures, I'd probably choose Wall of Mist over Murmuring Mystic because of the lower cmc. I already play two cmc5 cards and more cards with a high cmc don't fit well with playing counters.
I'm not worried about the control matchup that much, because my deck has a lot of counters and intends to play a long game. But you're maybe right that 8 counters are too much, although the high amount of card-filtering helps with this. One more thing about Murmuring Mystic is, that I imagine it to be useful against aggro and against control, so maybe you're still right to maindeck it. I guess I'll have to see how playtesting goes.
3 weeks ago
I like where this is headed, but im also worried about an aggro game one for you. How do you feel about mainboarding 2 copies of Murmuring Mystic as it synergises with your spells and creates fodder, as well as having a big butt on his own! Disdainful Stroke is a must in your sideboard, at least 2. And maybe River's Rebuke as a board wipe of your own. How do you think you'd fare against a control deck?
As for sideboard, maybe Wall of Mist might be suitable to slowdown aggressive decks? So you then get the chance to mill them! As for the mill package, i think its fine, im a little worried about how much counter you're running - but thats not my area of expertise, im not much of a counter player, but i do love milling.
I hope this helps a little bit and happy brewing!