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Creature — Vampire
Other Vampire creatures you control get +1/+1.
Tap five untapped Vampires you control: Gain control of target creature. It becomes a Vampire in addition to its other types.
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Captivating Vampire Discussion
14 hours ago
zephyr_chang how do I go about upvoting the comment you gave? ;)
I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into giving me advice and criticism. It was incredibly helpful and thorough.
I checked online about the the mono-black vampire builds that Tom Ross made and he literally said he was embarrassed about Pulse Tracker and Vampire Lacerator! I had never seen that discussion before so thank you for referring me to it!
To get straight to the point, I took your advice and rearranged the build. I substituted Viscera Seer in for Vampire Lacerator. I took out Indulgent Aristocrat and Captivating Vampire for Bloodghast and 2 more Sign in Blood. I hope this helps the build to be more consistent and more competitive. I wish Bloodghast was cheaper, but there is a reason it is expensive, being as good as it is.
As for the lands, I'm going to leave it the way it is for now, with the next big investment being Marsh Flats since I am a Mardu player through and through.
All in all, and everything considered, what do you think of the build? Is there anything else you would suggest for the sideboard? Thank you again for the dedicated response!
1 day ago
I have been playing mono-black Vampires in Modern for quite some time now. It is actually more competitive than a lot of people think. It's like mono-black Jund, and I've out-Junded Jund with vamps before. But this also means I play much more disruption than the build laid out here. My version runs 6 Discard (either a 4/2 or a 3/3 split among Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek), 6 Removal (4 Fatal Push and 2 flex slots), 4 Planeswalkers (the best in Modern - Liliana of the Veil), a much lower creature count at 21, and 23 lands.
Now, you have correctly identified Bloodghast to be the best Vampire in Modern. It does everything you want it to do in this deck - it is a recurring threat, you can sac it to scry (Viscera Seer), sac it to drain (Kalastria Highborn), discard it to Lili's +1, etc. The second best vamp is probably Vampire Nocturnus because its ability is just insane. I'd max out the number of Gatekeeper of Malakir because the sac effect is very strong in the format. 4 Asylum Visitor is great for card advantage and Madness is great for discard effects as well. Finally, I play 4 Viscera Seer because it synergises well with the other creatures. With Seer, you can do the fetch land-scry trick with Bloodghast, you can fix the top of your deck for Nocturnus, you can sac your entire board with Kalastria Highborn for extra reach, and you at least get to scry when opponent tries to kill your creatures.
Some comments on why I won't run the creatures you are playing...they are only good when there is a critical mass or density of creatures on board. Captivating Vampire really shines when you have at least another couple or more creatures already on the board, and you can forget about ever activating his second ability in a typical Modern game. In contrast, Vampire Nocturnus works great even when he's the only creature on board (a common sight after you have grinded the opponent out with discard and removal a la Jund). Vampire Lacerator is only good if played Turn 1 and even then it gets outclassed very quickly and then becomes a liability (Tom Ross tried the card in a very early build and called it 'embarrassing'!). Stromkirk Condemned and Indulgent Aristocrat are also only good when you have at least 2 other creatures on board, which I have found to be quite rare in a format full of removal. Furthermore, you cannot afford the card disadvantage, I don't think, if you are not playing Bloodghast.
Lastly, lands - I play 8 fetches to activate Bloodghast and to turn on Revolt for Fatal Push, 4 Mutavault as an honorary Vampire which gets Nocturnus bonus and can be sacrificed to Highborn (man-lands are traditionally used for getting in damage when both players are topdecking after a war of attrition - think Jund again), 4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth so you can produce black mana with Mutavault and fetchlands (you'd want to save fetches for Revolt Fatal Push and explosive Bloodghast turns), and 7 basic Swamps.
My sideboard includes a little bit of everything, Collective Brutality against Burn/Infect, Damnation against creature heavy decks, Duress as additional discard against control, Fulminator Mage and Ghost Quarter to kill lands, Nihil Spellbomb, Surgical Extraction and Scarab Feast for graveyard decks, Pithing Needle for various activated abilities, Vampire Hexmage for planeswalkers, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet for Jund or Abzan mirrors.
Just sharing my own experience playing Vamps in Modern for the longest time.
5 days ago
Icbrgr thanks for the comment! I greatly appreciate it!
I LOVE Vampire Nighthawk and I use him in my Rakdos aggro build Succumb to Madness. The problem is I have other 3-drops I prefer to play like Gatekeeper of Malakir with kicker, Captivating Vampire, and other 2-drop creatures and my 1-drop hand discard.
What would you suggest taking out for Vampire Nighthawk?
1 week ago
+1 I love Vampire Tribal and Im working on a mono-black version myself Darkness is Eternal
2 weeks ago
I definitely recommend having the Captivating Vampire card since most of the cards shown here are mostly low cost and also all vampires mainly, in this case, I'd prefer switching out a couple of the "never return" ones for a couple more call to the feast, that way not only are you able to gain more vampire lifelink tokens but thanks to CV ability to give them all +1 counters really helps bring them up to a higher level. Any other cards you have that increases vampires counter's like Bloodline Keeper Flip are really helpful. in my opinion, consider adding a couple more higher costing cards if you have any like some with the ability bloodthirst . If there's any other cards I may recommend try Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle, maybe Anowan, the Ruin Sage and I prefer Sanctum Seeker. A couple enchantment cards like one I personally use myself and highly recommend is Sanguine Bond and pricey but Exquisite Blood, out of everything though legion lieutenant is a really good choice for this deck, the lands are well balance but since its more of a black deck, try to go for that a bit more or balance them out with black/white cards as I tried to recommend. Anything else I can add it would be add an enchantment or two while maintaining a 60 card deck. Hope I helped in some way :). Joined a week ago.
3 weeks ago
Vampira Thank you for your suggestions, they are nice but they don't fit exactly the strategy I wanna use. I mean Oona, Queen of the Fae could maybe find a place in the deck, but not the other two. They are nice yes but the deck isn't a vampire tribal so it would be hard to use Captivating Vampire properly.
3 weeks ago
1 month ago
If you want to go janky, you could put Kindred Boon back in. You still name Vampires of course. Make your Myojin of Night's Reach a vampire with Olivia Voldaren, Captivating Vampire or even with New Blood, then just keep putting divinity counters back on the Myojin.