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|Have (2)||pskinn01 , Mortiferus_Rosa|
|Want (2)||Raumance , nconiglio|
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|Magic 2013 (M13)||Rare|
|2012 Core Set (M12)||Rare|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Redirect occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
2 days ago
You're very welcome! ^_^ Also, love the idea using redirection instead of counters. I can personally vouch for Redirect. Another bonus, once people know you're running it you can leave two blue mana open at all times as a bluff. This can scare people into believing you have it in hand and essentially work as a psuedo-counterspell by doing nothing. I find bluffing is more readily believed if glance at your hand and then your lands at the beginning of your turn, and then after leaving the mana open on your end step DO NOT look at your hand until your next turn if you can help it. Keep your eyes on your opponents hands and lands, not the battlefield. When someone casts anything of worth, move your hand ever so slightly but don't look at it. Doesn't work on everyone, but most people who aren't wise to this tactic assume you've got it in-hand and that you're trying to play it cool like you don't.
2 days ago
MapPsycho Thanks for the comment and the upvote! While I do like your suggestions as cards, I don't think they'll be as efficient in this deck since I've found that I'm often using up a lot of my mana during my turns to cast creature spells. If I do end up running counterspells, they would have to be 2 CMC or "free" (i.e Pact of Negation, Force of Negation, and Force of Will) for me to best use my mana.
Too bad those counters I mentioned cost too much, though :(.
I'll probably still consider Foundry of the Consuls, though. It'd be a one time use, but I haven't really been using Castle Ardenvale or Kjeldoran Outpost to generate tokens much. I mostly put them in the deck as "just in case" cards.
FrogBoy95 And another thanks to you for the nice comment and upvote! I'm glad you guys have been liking what I've made; gives me a bit more confidence that the deck won't be a complete dud once I actually buy it in paper lol.
I recently edited the decklist to show some changes I made over the past week or so. Instead of Vedalken Orrery, I'm using Leyline of Anticipation since it basically has the same effect, and more importantly, is waaayyy cheaper than Vedalken Orrery.
On the subject of counterspells, I've also been thinking that better cards for me to use would probably be redirecting effects such as Narset's Reversal, Redirect, and Commandeer. While I don't think counterspells are a complete waste in EDH, I do think they're tougher to use efficiently since you're dealing with more than one person and ultimately end up losing some card advantage. Those redirect spells can help turn opponent's cards completely in your favor and will more or less replace themselves in doing so.
I haven't put those cards in the maindeck, however; currently those "flex slots" are being taken up by Phyrexian Metamorph and Stunt Double, which will ideally let me get more mileage out of my own deck by acting as extra copies of my EtB creatures.
Luminarch Ascension is a cool card, but my issue with it is that it will quickly put a target on your head, and my deck doesn't really have a lot of ways to completely dissuade people from attacking me. Dawn of Hope is much more lowkey and comes with an added bonus of potentially drawing cards, but that mana cost to make one token is a bit too high for my liking, and I don't really have a lot of ways to reliably gain life other than Cloudblazer, Elite Guardmage, and Charming Prince.
1 month ago
Aethersnatch - Too much mana to hold up at once
Redirect - Another misdirection is always good. Whats better than countering their removal than sending it back at them?
Another "free" spell is Commandeer - Note that this gets around "can't be countered" (same with aethersnatch). Also be aware of how many cards you will be discarding for these spells and might want to add more card draw dependent on your testing of the deck.
1 month ago
4 months ago
EDH is really fun! Especially when you make a deck around a theme. I've made a similar Grixis theft deck with Jeleva. Here's a bunch of cards I have found fun and effective in my Grixis theft deck:
Emrakul, the Promised End , Gonti, Lord of Luxury , Grenzo, Havoc Raiser , Havengul Lich , Hostage Taker , Keiga, the Tide Star , Kheru Mind-Eater , Lord of the Void , Mindclaw Shaman , Necrotic Ooze , Nightveil Specter , Sepulchral Primordial , Sphinx Ambassador , Boneyard Parley , Knowledge Exploitation , Mnemonic Betrayal , Order of Succession , Role Reversal , Talent of the Telepath , Telemin Performance , Worst Fears , Commandeer , Desertion , Gather Specimens , Redirect , Reverberate , Spelljack , Wild Ricochet , Chaos Wand , Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
7 months ago
Erebos, God of the Dead is a fun general -- good luck!
Most EDH games are decided by card advantage. You're typically facing down three opponents, meaning you're facing down about three times as many cards as you yourself can produce. Thus, anything that can recoup card advantage through mass draw or multi-for-ones is a good addition to a deck. With Erebos, I had a lot of luck with Words of Waste . This is an instant-speed discard effect (through Erebos' draw ability) and mana sink for the end of your opponents turns.
In a similar vein, cards like Smallpox are good for cleaning up the board from early threats, as well as setting back your opponents. I don't see it played that much, but I've had good success playing it myself. Pox is another option, but it is harder to minimize its damage to you as well.
Depending on your card pool, you may want to consider running Snow-Covered Swamp s instead of Swamp s. This allows you to run something like Dead of Winter instead of Languish ; it's more mana-efficient and tends to have a bigger effect.
Black doesn't have a lot of options in terms of mana-ramp. I see you've included Crypt Ghast and Cabal Stronghold (both powerful), but you should also consider artifact ramp. Sol Ring is an auto-include in almost every EDH deck, and cards like Charcoal Diamond , Coldsteel Heart , Mind Stone , Thought Vessel , Mana Vault , Mana Crypt (if you proxy or want to sell a kidney) and Everflowing Chalice are great as well.
One combo I had good luck with while playing Erebos was Raven's Crime with Null Profusion . This allows you to essentially cycle any dead lands you draw by casting Raven's Crime from the yard, while also making an opponent discard. In the discard vein, you seem to have some good discard pieces in your list already. Including Geth's Grimoire makes these into card advantage for you, and Waste Not is a great value engine. Syphon Mind is both a mass-discard spell and a mass-draw spell.
In your land-package, I think you should cut Leechridden Swamp . A majority of the time, losing one life isn't going to be significant; furthermore, entering tapped is a severe drawback. Running a normal or snow-covered Swamp is better.
A few of your creature inclusions are questionable. Gifted Aetherborn , Pawn of Ulamog and Basilica Screecher are not likely to have much of an effect on the board, and Brain Maggot or Kitesail Freebooter likely should be replaced with more global and/or recurring discard effects.
I feel that a lot of your spot removal consists of one-for-ones. Consume Spirit and Corrupt are good when there is only a single threat on the board, but are simply not good enough if two or more opponents are applying pressure at a given moment. Damnation and Toxic Deluge are the best black board-wipes, though they can be very expensive; I advise Nevinyrral's Disk or Perilous Vault as budget considerations. The life-gain effects of Consume Spirit and the like are probably not necessary when you're running Whip of Erebos and Pontiff of Blight .
Tutors are amazing in EDH. Demonic Tutor is the gold-standard, though it is expensive. Diabolic Tutor , which you run, is functionally identical to Mastermind's Acquisition in EDH -- you may want to consider running the latter for redundancy.
Because of the draw-power stapled on Erebos, you may want to consider running cards like Mindslicer . You'll recover much faster than your opponents, and with things like Waste Not or Geth's Grimoire on the field its a real powerhouse. This would require a sac-outlet; Phyrexian Tower is a good option here.
9 months ago
I can use Redirect or Spellskite to change the target of my opponents spell, but if I have an Phantasmal Bear on the field that my opponent targets, casting the Redirect or activating Spellskite would null that instance of targeting and I wouldn't have to sacrifice my bear, or would I?
10 months ago
This is a tricky one, I would seriously consider splashing a third color for access to cards that fetch artifacts like Fabricate but the mana fixing becomes a serious issue. I would happily drop AEther Membrane to do this but a three color deck just sounds inherently unreliable in terms of mana.
I mainly wanted to try to build around Isochron Scepter and my thoughts other than straight burn would be Doom Blade , Geth's Verdict , Mana Leak , Angelsong , Assassin's Trophy , Bile Blight , Commencement of Festivities , Dampen Thought , Dash Hopes , Deflecting Palm , Essence Scatter , Feed the Clan , Growth Spiral , Heroes' Reunion , Increasing Vengeance , Nourish , Raise the Alarm , Redirect , Solidarity of Heroes , Turn to Frog , Twincast , Veil of Secrecy , Whitesun's Passage .
I don't know, it just seems like the scepter could be a really awesome addition to a lot of decks but you would want the scepter plus a fetch for it as well.