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Creature — Zombie
Gravecrawler can't block.
You may cast Gravecrawler from your graveyard as long as you control a Zombie.
16 hours ago
Thanks for the tips! I've been meaning to pick those up for a while. Gravecrawler goes infinite with Rooftop Storm and Ashnod's Altar , or Phyrexian Altar for colored mana. Add a ping zombie (such as Plague Belcher ) and you win.
I hadn't picked up on Conspiracy , I'll consider it.
Thanks for the suggestions!
1 day ago
So first off I just want to say sorry if you have a budget and I recommend some cards outside of price range, but here are some suggestions from me:
Cards to take out
- Murder I get that you say that there aren't many planeswalkers in your meta, but sometimes just having the option to hit them on a card that is the same mana cost and does everything else Murder does is just a better option like Hero's Downfall or like you said you fight voltron decks like Zurgo Helmsmasher a card like Vraska's Contempt is a better removal card as it exiles or only one more colorless mana.
- Isareth the Awakener while she is a reanimator, she also exiles the cards when they leave the battlefield which can hurt if you reanimate something you don't want to lose.
- Lotleth Giant - sounds like a good card when you first look at it but it requires set up and costs 7 mana. Not ideal.
- Necrotic Wound - same with the Lotleth Giant , it takes too much set up and there are better spot removal or board wipes
- Open the Graves now here me out on this one, this card is really good in a deck that wants to sacrifice their own creatures, but this looks to be more token focused which means that majority of your creatures that die don't have Open the Graves to trigger.
- Bontu's Monument it is a good card but it looks like you are going to try and cast more non-creature spells than creature spells
- Board wipes like Life's Finale or if you wanna get expensive Damnation
- Paradox Haze this card is a fun one of mine as it allows The Scarab God to have his beginning of upkeep trigger twice dealing hefty damage.
- Phyrexian Altar this card can win as it gives you deck infinite combos with Gravecrawler if you want the deck to go into that direction
- Tutors Tutors Tutors! cards like Sidisi, Undead Vizier or Diabolic Tutor are always musts in black decks as it can help you find answers or wincons when the situation calls for it. These are just a few ideas I have! If you want any more ideas please let me know!
What to put in?So what do we put in? We have a few options based on what you like:
4 days ago
I dropped Lyzolda Blood Witch because quite frankly... I don't think it worked well enough in my deck. Brought it up to 3 Ion Storm because with a playset of Faithless Looting If i draw too many I can use them as discard fodder. As I can with Gravecrawler . Please let me know if there is a better approach.
1 week ago
cut: Gatekeeper of Malakir, Ruthless Deathfang, Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis, Liliana's Reaver, Accursed Horde, Shepherd of Rot, gauntlet of power, tribute to hunger, geth's verdict, Torment of Scarabs, Exquisite Blood, The Eldest Reborn, syphon flesh, phyresis, and a land
check out: Gravecrawler , Nether Traitor , Sword of the Animist , Expedition Map (for urborg/cabal), Crypt of Agadeem , Smallpox , Death Cloud , Thassa, God of the Sea , Bedevil , Windfall , Wheel of Fortune , Vona's Hunger , Army of the Damned , Lord of the Accursed , Dictate of Erebos , Undead Warchief , Solemn Simulacrum , Lord of the Undead , The Scarab God , Ghoulcaller Gisa , Chaos Warp , Curse of the Cabal , Command Beacon
1 week ago
Wouldn’t that be something. That’s been the main thing missing from the deck is that effect. Just dump your Gravecrawler s and Dread Wanderer s over and over. Diregraf Colossus triggers for days. I’d likely reshape the with more Colossi if they do reprint it.
1 week ago
Attrition Free sac outlets are better.
Buried Alive Significantly reduced need for creature tutors.
Chainer, Dementia Master Liliana is more focused towards the discard aspect I want.
Curse of Disturbance With fewer creatures comes less value out of this cycle of curses
Entomb Less need for creature tutors.
Fellwar Stone Lower curve means that I want to be using mana more efficiently, as opposed to tapping out on 2 to ramp.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel less overall devotion with the reduced creature count
Lightning Greaves Fewer creatures to protect in this version
Scythe Specter Too slow for this type of effect, the idea is to get rid of all opponent's hands as fast as possible and to keep them empty.
Stitcher's Supplier Less graveyard focus now, I dont need the self mill as much.
Victimize There just aren't enough good targets for this spell to be useful.
Liliana Vess More Discard, yay, also, more tutors.
Animate Dead the replacement for victimize, grabs one very important creature.
Razaketh, the Foulblooded More tutors!
Sensei's Divining Top Card selection is great.
Phyrexian Arena More consistent card draw.
Vampiric Tutor And even more tutors.
2 weeks ago
First off, for having 3.75 average cmc and a 7 mana commander 33 lands seems too low. I'd swap some of the cluestones for lands since they have similar purpose. As for the focus part right now you have 2 themes - 1 is tribal zombies, the other infinite combo with Tendrils of Agony or a on-death pinger, Rooftop Storm , Gravecrawler and a sac outlet.
While nice to have a back-up in my experience this hasn't worked out too well and I've removed the infinites from my non-combo dedicated decks, so my suggestion is to make the deck more focused by doubling down on one strategy. (Personally I like tribal more and can make more suggestions there)
If you want to go full tribal, I'd cut the infinite and/or most of the tutors for it and add Coat of Arms , Kindred Charge or Shared Animosity . Phyrexian Reclamation and Grave Pact can be nice additions. It That Betrays will do nicely with the sacrifice sub-theme as well. Lastly I'd recommend some of the more unfair stuff to do in tribal black like Patriarch's Bidding and Balthor the Defiled , which can create big swing turns and if unanswered for 1 rotation win the game.
Or if you want to strengthen the combo side, you'd need to add more and better tutors. Personally I'm a big fan of the transmute mechanic as it is low cost(both cmc and money lul) but it has the downside of revealing the card you tutored for. A more non-budget approach would include much more powerful tutors Demonic Tutor , Vampiric Tutor , Mystical Tutor and Diabolic Intent to name a few. You'd also need to add at least 5 counterspells or other ways to protect the combo from being broken as it will become the somewhat main win condition of the deck.
Hope this helps, mate. Cheers!
3 weeks ago
Looking through your deck I think for the most part it looks doable. There's a few things I would recommend cutting to kind of lower the CMC of the deck, as i noticed you've got a somewhat low land count, along with some cards I feel like are zombie traps.
Army of the Damned is something I see in a hell of a lot of zombie decks, but I never feel like it's ACTUALLY any good. Sure, 13 2/2's is nothing to scoff at, but it's so mana intensive and they enter tapped anyway that it just feels like a trap. Unless you've got a way to cheat the cost, I'd suggest trying something else - Reanimate , Unearth , Living Death , etc. Besides, I think Josu Vess is better for that kind of thing, since his horde has menace and is untapped.
Endless Ranks of the Dead is only situationally good from my experience. It's just a little too slow for me to ever really do much with it.
Empty the Pits is another I'm not too crazy about. Admittedly, self milling can make it do some work, but overall I feel like it's too expensive UNLESS you've got a good GY built up.
As far as suggestions, here's a few thoughts:
Unearth - this beauty is so synergistic with a zombie deck. The biggest problem for zombies in a 60 card format is that all of their lords are at the 3 CMC cost. In EDH we can run them all, and hey, surprise surprise, they're all targetable with this spell!
Reanimate - Basically a second Unearth, but without the 3 CMC restriction.
Flash and Rot Hulk is a pretty disgusting combination. You flash in the hulk and don't pay it's cost and since that's technically part of the resolution of the Flash spell, Hulk's ETB won't trigger until after he's in the graveyard in this instance, meaning you can target him with his own ETB, getting back it and two other zombies, then on his second ETB getting back another three zombos. All at instant speed!
Living Death - Highly, HIGHLY suggest this one. It's both a boardwipe and a finisher, all in one.
Tombstone Stairwell - THis one is a finisher in my deck. A better version of Endless Ranks of the Dead , but with the added benefit of sooooo many death triggers that if you've got a Diregraf Captain or Plague Belcher out, you'll probably win the game shortly after.
Shepherd of Rot - With all the zombies you're running, why not turn them into pure burn? Sure it hurts you too, but you can always run things like...
Whip of Erebos - Lifelink is underrated in black, and being able to reanimate anything in your GY for a burst swing is super nice.
Phyrexian Altar AND Ashnod's Altar - Both of these are great. Not only do they ramp, but with certain boardstates they go infinite for a combo win - Classics like Gravecrawler , Phyrexian Altar , and Diregraf Captain will drain the whole table pretty easily.
Nim Deathmantle - If you're running Ashnod's Altar , you should run this. This can EASILY lead to some infinite combos (with Ashnod's, this, and, say, Grave Titan you've got infinite zombies and also infinite colorless mana).
Bontu's Monument - There's probably a combo hidden with it, but cost reduction and incidental lifegain is always nice!
Talisman of Dominance - I like it better than the Dimir Signet, but running both will give you a little bit of ramp at least.
Graf Harvest - If you're going the combo route you probably don't need this but if you're wanting to just swing, this 1 CMC enchantment does some work in an aggro shell.
Gravecrawler occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.06%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%