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- Can being returned be countered like casting? both from graveyard: cards are reassembling skeleton and gravecrawler
- Stack question on interactions with madness and Vengevine.
- Does a card moving from your graveyard to the stack count as having left your graveyard, and how does that interact with assist?
Creature — Zombie
Gravecrawler can't block.
You may cast Gravecrawler from your graveyard as long as you control a Zombie.
|Want (8)||Jmannen , Jamous , SpanglyZeus2884 , olivo426 , 23thayn , nayaanima1 , sbrow , splatterling|
1 day ago
1 day ago
It's not that I don't want to spend the money for them, but to narrow down why I cannot afford them, I recently lost my job so cash is a bit tighter :c
The deck I have going is mostly replacing creatures with tokens. So saccing something to make a token to then sac again is sort of the goal. Thus cards that make tokens when another creature dies is good, or on cast. I am trying to avoid some of the ETB cards, since I have been running into more Torpor Orb effects to shut it down, meaning it's harder to keep it going with ETB and then recur. It is also why cards like Reassembling Skeleton and Nether Traitor are so important, cause they are easily recurable triggers to sac again to, which is another reason I wanted to add Bloodghast and Bloodsoaked Champion . Slightly harder to recur, but are repeatable. If I get enough Zombies, Gravecrawler is another possible addition.
Sandsowers ability is to tap down creatures, not untap "Tap 3 untapped creatures, tap creature". The reason I added it as of now, is to help slow down. The big bad attackers with trample or big guys that can kill me in one fell swoop. Tap a big one, sac three Spirits and exile something else if I have to.
If I add another Blood Artist, id likely put Falkenrath Noble back. It's a flyer that triggers whenever a creature dies, so not just my own. Sorin isn't a bad idea, but I feel like making a +1/+0 emblem seems good if I can protect him. Downticking to recur something basically puts him at near death already though. I see Planeswalker cards as "modal" spells more than anything; if I only get one activation, I need to make it count. So compared to Elspeth, Suns Champion, who is also a board wipe, seems much better, imo. Liliana is a very potent card and I could see it going in, as well as the uncommon Ob. Destroy my own creature, draw two and then recur seems decent.
DH can be in the deck and just not cast. Having it and not using it, is better than needing it and not having it. Another option is to try and include tutors as well. While I cannot afford Vampiric Tutor or Demonic Tutor , anything to get cards in my hand seems good, such as Beseech the Queen or even Diabolic Tutor .
I'll take a look at your list and comment on your list link accordingly if possible
Ravos and Whisper were added for a few reasons; 1) able to be used repeatedly 2) are creatures that, in a pinch, can be used as fodder and 3) it's what I have available. Some of the cards in the maybe list are cards I own, or are cheap enough to get.
6 days ago
Without any fetches, Canopy lands, or Carrion Feeder how will you be able to choose when to revolt your Fatal Push es? You got Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth which should be serving the role of letting you use fetches without sacrificing them until you want to revolt your Push. You could even use the black Canopies in this regard.
Without Feeder, Plague Belcher seems really middling.
1 week ago
The redundancies for each piece are:
Gravecrawler (recurrable dude)
- Nether Traitor + Pawn of Ulamog / Sifter of Skulls
- Reassembling Skeleton + Pawn of Ulamog / Sifter of Skulls
- Reassembling Skeleton + Pitiless Plunderer
- Liliana, Untouched By Death + 1 Drop Zombie
Phyrexian Altar (enabler)
- Pitiless Plunderer + Sac Outlet
1 week ago
1 week ago
Thanks for all the tips, already made a few changes to the deck now that I'm quite happy with. Still considering making more changes. I have now included Mind Stone and Basalt Monolith for more ramp. Also running Frantic Search , Careful Study and Ancient Excavation now.
I also added a few more lands that I can sack to get more value out of Crucible of Worlds , not looking to invest too much money in lands though because of the overall low impact of including those expensive lands ( Cabal Coffers being the only thing I might really want because of its high impact). Three sac lands was really not enough to justify Crucible of Worlds , honestly should've done something about that far sooner.
Going to consider putting Harvester of Souls in the deck, not going to invest in a Damnation however, a bit too expensive for what it does. More likely to run Life's Finale or Necromantic Selection instead if I feel like I need more boardwipes.
Wanted to mention why I run Unstable Obelisk . It's in the deck as a way for me to deal with non-creature permanents, it's more a removal spell that also acts as a mana-rock instead of the other way around. It's also a great bartering tool in my opinion (not to mention Ashes to Ashes is also kinda unattractive since I don't want to exile creatures, I'd rather have them die so I can Eternalize them with The Scarab God ).
I did end up cutting Soul Ransom , but the card was honestly used more to gain card advantage, I was totally fine with people discarding two and letting me draw two (basically Divination and Mind Rot for one card). You can even sack the creature in response to the discard, you still get the cards, but they don't get the creature back. Holding their commander hostage this way is in my opinion pretty good. If you don't draw cards off of it at least you get to have control of the creature, so win-win really (admittedly this card is way worse if they have cards they don't mind discarding in hand, but still, you at least draw two).
What I should've mentioned before is that I'm not too keen on running more tutors. Too many makes the deck too repetitive to play and more importantly, to play against. Friends have already complained about my life-drain combos being a bit much and happening too frequently.
Going infinite is not something I typically look to do either, which is why Gravecrawler is in the maybe section. I know he's incredible, but he kinda feels too easy to exploit, still on the fence about including him.
Overall thank you again for all your ideas, some of the changes you've suggested have helped already and I certainly have plenty of choices to consider now! Feeling a lot more con
2 weeks ago
By using your own spells to kill off a Gray Merchant of Asphodel just to reanimate him, you'll be giving up a ton of card advantage and losing tempo. If you're really interested in abusing the Merchant's ability by getting it to trigger multiple times, I'd consider running blue for bounce effects like Unsummon , or better yet, white for flicker like Cloudshift . You could also set up a Panharmonicon to double the trigger automatically. However, there really isn't any need to do so. The better option is to just invest in the mono-black devotion plan enough that Gray Merchant will kill in one hit. I recommend looking up black devotion lists to get an idea of cards to add. I've had a lot of fun with a devotion zoo deck using 1 drops like Gravecrawler , Gutterbones , and Bloodsoaked Champion with Midnight Oil and Phyrexian Arena to refill. In general, you just want to include the most black mana symbols for the lowest cost (while also bearing card power level in mind). Vampire Nighthawk and Despoiler of Souls are two cards you already have that fit the bill. Some other favorites are Gatekeeper of Malakir , Phyrexian Obliterator , Gifted Aetherborn , Dread Shade , and Geralf's Messenger . These decks can be a little pricey, especially if you include a set of Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx . If you're looking for a more gradual form of life drain, Orzhov lists are a popular way to do so. They run cards more in the vein of Obzedat, Ghost Council , Wall of Limbs , and Kambal, Consul of Allocation . They might also take advantage of lifegain with Ajani's Pridemate , Felidar Sovereign , or the Sanguine Bond / Exquisite Blood combo. One of the reasons these decks are so popular is that they can easily be built on a budget. As a final note, I'd like to point out that you're currently lacking the mana needed for the curve you have. I'd want at least 20 lands here and maybe as many as 25 to avoid constant mana screw. Good luck with your build!
2 weeks ago
Gravecrawler occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.06%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%