Butcher Ghoul

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Format Legality
Vintage Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Legacy Legal
Modern Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Pauper Legal

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Duel Decks: Blessed vs Cursed Common
Avacyn Restored Common

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Butcher Ghoul

Creature — Zombie

Undying (When this creature dies, if it had no +1/+1 counter on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it.)

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Butcher Ghoul Discussion

sonnet666 on Scorpion god combo (CEDH)

1 week ago

Your curve is a little high, and you're overthinking your win conditions.

Think about it this way:

Infinite mana + Walking Ballista = Win

Infinite mana + Your commander + A creature you can kill repeatedly = Draw your deck

If you draw your deck, then you're always going to run into Walking Ballista and you're always going to win. (Altar of Dementia would kill the table at this point too.)

So really, all you need to have a guaranteed win is infinite mana, plus any ONE of the following: Reassembling Skeleton, Tenacious Dead, Relentless Dead, Bloodsoaked Champion, or ANY undying creature.

Geralf's Messenger isn't even necessary for this combo to work. (The 3 black actually makes it a bit more unwieldy than a Pyreheart Wolf or Butcher Ghoul would be.)

That also means that all of the following are win-more and overkill: Mike-and-Trike, Kiki-Zealous, Redcap, Blood Artist, Purphoros, Impact Tremors, Goblin Sledder, Nim Deathmantle, Viscera Seer, Phyrexian Delver, Metallic Mimic, and Doomsday (you don't have support for this).

Cutting all that would lower your curve significantly (making Ad Nauseam work better) and allow you to include more tutors, better draw factor (Dark Confidant), and have back up combos that actually contribute to and synergize with your main strategy.

NarejED once made a great observation about how people think that the more combos they fit in their cEDH deck, the better it is, when really all they're doing is scattering their deck's gameplan, and making sure their combos don't have enough support to be reliable.

That's kind of what you're doing here. You have Worldgorger, an infinite mana combo, Mike/Trike, a counter / damage combo, Kiki/Zealous, a token / combat combo, and then Doomsday with no Doomsday cards. Those couldn't be farther from supporting each other.

Without a doubt you should go with Worldgorger, seeing as it plays so well with your commander, but if you do include a backup combo, it's probably best to go with something else that makes infinite mana, because that really seems to be the heart of this deck, or at least something that takes advantage of Scorpion Bro's counter effect. (My recommendation: just keep Mikaeus and take out Triskelion. Mike + Walking Ballista + sac outlet works just as well, and then everything has a use by itself.)

(Sidenote: It just occurred to me that this infinite mana plan runs super similarly to Lyzolda, the Blood Witch, except she doesn't even need an extra creature to kill. Maybe we should move her up...)

TheDarkSlayer21 on Marchesa Edh

1 week ago

Ok...There are typically two ways of making a Marchesa deck. The first way is to put in a lot of creatures that can get +1/+1 counters easily (like Anthroplasm, Aetherborn Marauder, Butcher Ghoul, Carrion Feeder or Unleash/Modular cards). The problem is, these cards hardly do anything other than putting counters on themselves. They're pretty much duds. So to make up for this, people will put in good sac outlets, (Cards like Mind Slash, Phyrexian Altar, Ashnod's Altar, Altar of Dementia, Attrition, etc). This type of deck gets its engine running STRICTLY from it's sac outlets, (NOT FROM ITS CREATURES) and because of this, it is a bit more reliant on it's commander.

The second type of deck is my preferred method of playstyle. Whereby, the deck is not RELYING on its sac outlets, (although it does have a few) but rather on the bounce effects of creatures. (Cards like Mulldrifter and Harvester of Souls). With this type of deck, you're also not fully relying on your commander. Marchesa is just a perk. If you don't have her out, you can still play your creatures and benefit from them.

Also keep in mind, that it isn't too hard getting +1/+1 counters on your creatures just using the dethrone ability itself. I find that most, if not all the time, you will NOT be at the highest life total; especially if you have Necropotence, Ancient Tomb, Unspeakable Symbol, shock lands, fetch lands, and pain lands in the deck.

This is the Marchesa deck that I personally made. You're welcome to look at it for suggestions.


Maleficent

Commander / EDH TheDarkSlayer21

SCORE: 12 | 16 COMMENTS | 7164 VIEWS | IN 16 FOLDERS


Some cards that I would highly recommend putting in the deck are:
- Sneak Attack
- Rune-Scarred Demon
- Demonic Tutor
- River Kelpie
- Necropotence
- Consecrated Sphinx
- Diabolic Intent
- Harvester of Souls
- Glen Elendra Archmage
- Mind Slash
- Thalakos Deceiver
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Phyrexian Tower
- Cyclonic Rift
- Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
- Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
- Scourge of the Throne
- Unspeakable Symbol
- Grave Betrayal
- Flayer of the Hatebound
- Thraximundar
NOTE: If you do decide to have this deck be a bit more ETB heavy, Deadeye Navigator and Rite of Replication are good cards to help abuse the ETB triggers.

BlurrySC on undying sacrifice

1 month ago

You're better off adding green for Young Wolf and Strangleroot Geist, these are much better than Butcher Ghoul and Sightless Ghoul. Of course, this will make the mana base far more expensive. In just black, some other cards to consider are Blood Artist/Zulaport Cutthroat, Viscera Seer, Bloodflow Connoisseur, Grim Haruspex.

TheDarkSlayer21 on Marchesa

1 month ago

Ok, there are typically two ways of making a Marchesa deck. The first way is to put in a lot of creatures that can get +1/+1 counters easily (Cards like: Anthroplasm, Aetherborn Marauder, Butcher Ghoul, Carrion Feeder or Unleash/Modular cards). The problem is, these cards hardly do anything other than putting counters on themselves. Their pretty much duds. So to make up for this, people will put in good sac outlets, (Cards like: Mind Slash, Phyrexian Altar, Ashnod's Altar, Altar of Dementia, Attrition, etc.) This type of deck gets its engine running STRICTLY from it's sac outlets, (NOT FROM ITS CREATURES) and because of this, it is a bit more reliant on its commander.

The second type of deck is my preferred method of playstyle. Whereby, the deck is not RELYING on its sac outlets, (although it does have a few) but rather on the ETB/graveyard triggers of creatures (Cards like: Mulldrifter and Harvester of Souls). With this type of deck, you're also not fully relying on your commander. Marchesa is just a perk. If you don't have her out, you can still play your creatures and benefit from them.

Also keep in mind, that it isn't too hard getting +1/+1 counters on your creatures just using the dethrone ability itself. I find that most, if not all the time, you will NOT be at the highest life total; especially if you have Necropotence, Ancient Tomb, Unspeakable Symbol, shock lands, fetch lands, and pain lands in the deck.

This is the Marchesa deck that I personally made. You're welcome to look at it for suggestions.


Maleficent

Commander / EDH TheDarkSlayer21

SCORE: 12 | 16 COMMENTS | 7164 VIEWS | IN 16 FOLDERS


Some cards that I would highly recommend putting in the deck are:
- Sneak Attack
- Rune-Scarred Demon
- Demonic Tutor
- Necropotence
- Consecrated Sphinx
- Diabolic Intent
- Mind Slash
- Thalakos Deceiver
- Phyrexian Tower
- Scourge of the Throne
NOTE: If you do decide to have this deck be a bit more ETB heavy, Deadeye Navigator and Rite of Replication are good cards to help abuse the ETB triggers.

jacobef on Mono Black Suffering

1 month ago

Sorry, didn't see you already had Gravecrawler in there. I would replace Butcher Ghoul with Dread Wanderer instead.

jacobef on Mono Black Suffering

1 month ago

I would definitely replace Dead Weight with Tragic Slip, replace Butcher Ghoul with Gravecrawler and get rid of Trespasser's Curse sense it seems pretty random in this deck and maybe replace it with Dark Prophecy or something like that because you don't have any other card draw.

ShoelessJoe on Hapatra Beatdown

1 month ago

AltSilhouette those sound great! I'll switch out Butcher Ghoul. Soul Snuffers sounds pretty crazy with Nest of Scarabs so I might try buying a play set of them and maybe sideboarding them out with Skinrender.

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