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|Masters Edition III (ME3)||Uncommon|
|Fifth Edition (5ED)||Uncommon|
|Fourth Edition (4ED)||Uncommon|
|4th Edition Foreign Black Border (4EDFBB)||Uncommon|
|The Dark (DRK)||Common|
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Ashes to Ashes
Exile two target nonartifact creatures. Ashes to Ashes deals 5 damage to you.
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Ashes to Ashes Discussion
3 days ago
Hmmm... Maybe I'll say it this way - I like to play for fun and with stupid ideas, but if I play some kind of daw-go, then I want to play only (almost) unconditional counterspels and removals like Prohibit or excludes and Rend Flesh , Ashes to Ashes or sac effects, instead of essence scatter and doom blade. I just want to be able to kill gurmag with every or at least "most" of my spells. Yea, prohibit doesn't hit him, but this card can counter a lot of cards in this format. Prohibit is pauper version of Spell Snare in modern. Or even better!
I personally love prohibit and most of the time my decks are little "kinky", because I play to much counterspels - 4 counterspell, 4 excludes and 2-4 prohibits, but there is only one excuse. My local meta is control heavy, so my deck can be a little slower :)
And answering your question - no, not prohibits. I would cut preordians instead, but am not a big fan of card selection in draw-creatureless-go, so probably I can't be helpful here...
6 days ago
Ashes to Ashes, Read the Bones, Night's Whisper, Sign in Blood, Angelic Purge, Afterlife, Snuff Out, Unmake, Pentarch Ward, Cho-Manno's Blessing, Blessing of Leeches are all really good and serve you as card draw/ protection or control.
1 month ago
Now this I like. The average CMC is pretty lean, yet you still found room for some fun fatties. Ashes to Ashes & Cannibalize is interesting couple of removal spells that wasn't on my radar. Loving the inclusion of baby Nicy B too.
One card I think you need to at least address is Toxic Deluge, since it's such a staple. I'm guessing you see it being in competition with Blasphemous Act for the slot of a cheap board wipe, which is OK, esp. if your meta doesn't have a whole lot of indestructible/protection from red/damage prevention
1 month ago
for starters you could cut down on creatures like: Aether Poisoner, Child of Night, Daggerdrome Imp, Deathgaze Cockatrice, Farbog Revenant, Feral Abomination, Fetid Imp, Flensermite, Giant Scorpion, Hand of Silumgar, Hired Poisoner, Markov Patrician, Maze Abomination, Moonglove Changeling, Moonglove Winnower, Nirkana Assassin, Queen's Agent, Rancid Rats, Ruin Rat, Scrounger of Souls, Sidisi's Pet, Skittering Heartstopper Vampire Champion and replace others for: Black Cat, Burglar Rat, Cadaver Imp, Liliana's Specter, Ravenous Rats, Twisted Abomination, Gurmag Angler but would compite with Shambling Attendants for the gy. some usefuls spells you might replace or add cound be: Blessing of Leeches, Sadistic Glee, Soul Channeling, Ashes to Ashes, Evincar's Justice, Shred Memory, Dark Bargain, maybe Crypt Incursion. im out of ideas for cards, for now, and you could add more artifact ramp or artifact that can be creatures like Guardian Idol, Wayfarer's Bauble is in every deck i play, Relic of Progenitus and Nihil Spellbomb are always good gy hate.
1 month ago
hkhssweiss much appreciated! :)
Drana was at one point at the helm of this deck too, but I switched to Erebos for the card advantage and because he doesn't die as much to my own spells.
Geth was also a former general for the deck, and it was fun having him run things, but in the end I was looking for something of a Pox deck for mono black. Not quite stax, but just enough pain to give people a headache.
Mhm. Contamination /IS/ that good. The deck in its current version just can't support it. I used to run it with a full package: Bloodghast, Reassembling Skeleton, Bitterblossom and the like along with Dictate of Erebos and Grave Pact and sacrifice effects. But the deck started taking a different direction, so I had to remove them, and so Contamination had to go too.
As for Mindblade Render (and Dark Confidant) I find them more suitable for aggro decks. That's where I usually put them in. But I might make room for Twilight Prophet depending on how fast I can get to ten permanents. Card advantage, life gain, /and/ I get to bleed my opponents? Yes, please.
Mutilate and Ashes to Ashes also used to be in the deck, but the many non-basics that I run kept making the former ineffective and the latter was axed because I was cutting down on sorcery speed removal.
What's your experience with Torment of Hailfire? That card has always been on my radar, but I've never run it nor seen it in action. I don't like it when they get to choose their punishment. :))
1 month ago
voidlurker No worries I love mono-black decks, as one of my babies is my Drana deck. I play in a pretty cutthroat environment so I was unsure of what your meta is like. But Contamination is a damn good card, it really pairs with Bitterblossom. Some other recommendation I would consider than would be Geth, Lord of the Vault as a way as denial and ramp if your opponents play a lot of ramp or creature dorks.
Some additional two drop rocks that can be considered is ye ol faithful Mind Stone and Thought Vessel. Mindblade Render is a bit slower version of Dark Confidant but it does get you that extra push for card draw. Twilight Prophet as well if you can hit that ascend trigger as it would negate the life loss. Mutilate can act in as a secondary board wipe, I'm also quite fond of Ashes to Ashes. Torment of Hailfire is quite devastating even at x=10.
If ya like I wouldn't mind discussing deck building :P
2 months ago
You have to choose the creature before the blockers are decleared, so having evasive creatures with haste will work better than trample, and maybe use creatures that if arent blocked will have some kind of effect or the other way araund.
and probably add mass remuval and normal remuval.
sorry if all the cards i listed are black, im just more familiar with it.
2 months ago
I agree with the creature-based reanimation being too slow and have removed them from my own list too.
If you're finding you get stuck with nothing to reanimate sometimes I would start by replacing the noncreature cards with the same effects you can find on creatures:
- Ashes to Ashes for Shriekmaw or Plaguecrafter. Although you lose the exile part.
- Toxic Deluge for Kagemaro, First to Suffer