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Exploit (When this creature enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice a creature.)
When Vulturous Aven exploits a creature, you draw two cards and you lose 2 life.
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Vulturous Aven Discussion
3 months ago
I played my first two games of commander in over a year tonight, and by first, I mean with physical cards.
Game 1 vs Atraxa Superfriends:
Game 2 vs Atraxa Superfriends and Breya Artifacts:
This game was awesome. There was a lot of back and forth interactions throughout the game. Atraxa was able to ultimate a Jace, Unraveler of Secrets and Tezzeret, Artifice Master, and we were also under an Ensnaring Bridge.
I'm sitting at 14, Breya at 34, and Atraxa at 35. Atraxa has a Karn Liberated, Teferi, Temporal Archmage, and Atraxa out, along with a couple thopters. My turn, I cast Kokusho, the Evening Star to bait out the emblem counter. I then cast Living Death and bring back Duplicant, Vulturous Aven, Ravenous Chupacabra, Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Rune-Scarred Demon, Kokusho, the Evening Star, Sheoldred, Whispering One, and Gray Merchant of Asphodel. I drain each for 16 (I also have a Necropotence out), putting them at 18 and 19 and gain 32 to go to 46. I exploit Gary from Aven, draw 2 and lose 2 down to 44, and then exploit Kokusho from Sidisi, bringing them down to 13 and 14 and me up to 54. I use my two tutors to go grab Ashnod's Altar and Lifeline (the two creature removal effects didn't matter). I then dump 10 life into Necro, sculpt my hand to contain Ancient Tomb, Cabal Coffers, Lifeline, Ashnod's Altar, Go for the Throat, Animate Dead, and Reanimate, and pass.
It's Breya's turn, and he casts Merciless Eviction naming Planeswalkers, and states he's more nervous about them than my creatures, and he didn't want to lose what creatures he had.
Atraxa goes, can't do much, and EOT brings out Teferi, Hero of Dominaria.
On my turn, Sheoldred triggers, and I bring back Gary for the win.
Had Breya chose to exile creatures, my line of play would have been GftT to bait out the emblem counter, made enormous mana with Coffers, then drop Lifeline, Ashnod's Altar, and Meteor Golem, followed by Animate Dead and Reanimate on Kokusho and Gary, and then loop with Lifeline/Altar to close out the game.
I definitely had a blast tonight. I played against two people I never met, made some good friendships, and I'm looking forward to playing more. I'm really glad the second game went the way it did. It played out beautifully.
9 months ago
Thanks for your comment :)
Removal: I'm about to play Ghastly Demise as soon as it arrives :D
I lack removal for black creatures (maybe it's just what I feel after playing with Fleshbag Marauder for some time), maybe I'll play Ghastly Demise instead of Chill to the Bone, but I'll need to test it.
Discard: Tasigur's Cruelty is good because you can play it for like 1 mana and it's ok to get 1 or 2 cards, Unburden has cycling, but Unnerve is so bad in late-game, 4 mana is too much for 1 or 2 cards, besides it's always getting countered in my heavy blue group and you can always try to sneak play 1 mana Tasigur's Cruelty and don't lose a turn even if it's countered. Also we are playing 2HG, totem, or sometimes even 1vs1, cause my guys are dying after 1 hour of FFA when nothing's going on at some moments so cheap spells are favored cause the tempo is much more important there.
Vulturous Aven seems great, I'm definitely going to try it.
For Urborg Uprising I'm not sure if I'm ever gonna use it to get 2 cards back xd I'm a little low on creatures, and Gravedigger - Cadaver Imp synergy, when you get back one with another is so good, that I tried to also play Warren Pilferers but it was too expensive. Needs some testing.
Armillary Sphere is sooooo good it's staying for sure.
Ramp spells: I was wondering about bigger ones like Sisay's Ring but I don't like that they are doing nothing but getting destroyed. Small mana rocks were cut long ago because of that. The ones I'm playing are the best of the best, but I'm gonna think about getiing more.
Also I've been wondering on playing regular swamps over Terramorphic Expanse, Evolving Wilds because shuffling isn't very powerful, and I need those swamps, so decreasing the chances for drawing lands isn't very good. What do you think? Haunted Fengraf is also likely to be cut cause I used it maybe 2 times this year and i need black/swamps to hit as hard as it's possible and regain as much life as I can.
9 months ago
Hey there and welcome to the PDH home base.
Here are some ideas for your deck.
Discard: more "each opponent discards" over the "target player discards" stuff
Draw: there is Vulturous Aven as well (can exploit itself)
10 months ago
thank you so much for actively helping me improve the deck. I have been closely looking at the large pile of commons which I own more closely. As well as paying good attention to all the suggestions you both made. I came up with the following list of changes to improve the overall strategy and consistancy of the deck.
- Elvish Ranger: Too vanilla
- Selvala's Enforcer: I don't like giving my oponents free cards
- Treetop Scout: Not relevant enough
- Touch of Moonglove: A defensive removal, better options at hand
- Reave Soul: Too narrow, knowing that Eldrazi flock my meta too
- Plummet: Too narrow
- Murder: Better options at hand
- Asphyxiate: Better options at hand
- Dutiful Return: Better options at hand
- Scour from Existence: Too mana intensive for what it does
- Grim Harvest: overall improvement for what it does
- Culling the Weak: Great synergy with my commander
- Innocent Blood: Great synergy with my commander
- Sundering Vitae: Overall improvement
- Terror: Overall improvement
- Ashes to Ashes: Overall improvement
- Evincar's Justice: Overall improvement
- Entourage of Trest: Overall improvement
- Priest of Titania: Huge improvement
- Vulturous Aven : Great synergy with my commander
Thank you both for all the great recommendations. I have put a few still on the maybeboard, as I do not own them yet. But these changes feel like a mayor improvement to the deck already and I can't wait to see this build into action. If anyone still spots possible upgrades or weak links, then I love to hear you about it!
If anyone wishes to chat with me or other fellow magic players about EDH, Pauper EDH or any other format, I can also be found in here most of the time. Feel welcome to join this discord channel at any time.
1 year ago
Carrion Feeder, Viscera Seer, Animate Dead, Bloodthrone Vampire, Hidden Stockpile, Stingscourger, Bone Shredder, Bygone Bishop, Devouring Swarm, Kathari Bomber, Pawn of Ulamog, Victimize, Cabal Executioner, Dauthi Mindripper, Flesh-Eater Imp (if you wanna be mean), Marsh Flitter, Vulturous Aven, Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder, Karmic Guide, Knight-Captain of Eos, Reveillark, Solar Tide, Butcher of Malakir, Corpse Connoisseur, Burnished Hart, Priest of the Blood Rite, Sin Collector,
Cards to think about
1 year ago
Hello there Kylesafgt, thanks for all of your suggestions! I changed the deck up a bit based on your input and some of my own ideas. Before it was kind of a control/drain/beatdown hybrid, now it's just control/drain.
Sheoldred, Whispering One was actually in here for the longest time, I just recently switched her out for Massacre Wurm because of her price and because I heard that she was redundant with Meren. I've moved her back in now though.
I think I actually prefer Wall of Blossoms over Vulturous Aven, it's cheaper than the Aven so I can get it out earlier in the early game, and in the late game I should have a sac outlet anyway so I'm not too concerned about that. I might change my mind later though.
1 year ago
Great deck! Reminds me alot of how mine once looked.
Cards that I can see that I would consider subpar/not synergistic enough, if I were to run them myself:
Pathbreaker Ibex: Great card, I think it could gain an immense amount of power if you ran Lord of Extinction
Wall of Blossom: Personally I'd run Vulturous Aven over this, lets you get an experience counter too and you can target itself. I never had a problem with it being 4 cmc as Meren can easily rack up counters.
Mazirek: The counters can pile up quickly and he can get out of control, but the problem is that Meren wants your creatures dying so those counters won't be sticking around for long. You could replace him with Victimize?
Champion of Lambholt: You're probably better off running something that'll really give your deck a kick. For example, from your sideboard I can see Shriekmaw in there, WHY? I'd slot this back in your deck asap as he's an absolutely abusable monster in mine.
Cards you should add:
Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip!!!!!!!Liliana is an absolute monster in this deck and there's alot of factors I'll need to cover to get this point across. Firstly, she's a creature to start off with and Meren adores creatures being in her graveyard. Therefore Liliana is a very easy card to get back to the field especially due to her low cmc. Secondly, the way she flips to her Planeswalker side is hilariously easy (Have I mentioned that Meren loves things dying?). Once you flip her with easy you gain a 2/2 zombie which you can easily just use as sacrifice fodder or a nifty little attacker. Her first ability (+2) is one sided, everyone chucks a card into the graveyard. But you don't care about cards going to the graveyard, that's just a second hand to you because of all your reanimation effects. Her second ability (-X) allows you to reanimate any non-legendary creature that you have in your graveyard. Just another big stupid reanimation effect that can grab almost any creature is just great. Her third ability (-8) is potentially game winning in almost every deck, especially this one. You see, we want things to be constantly dying and once she has this emblem, every time something dies it just comes back to the field under our control. Now we run alot of destruction effects such as removal, gravepacts and stax effects so we'll be constantly forcing our opponents to sacrifice things (which will in turn come back under our control). I just cannot stress enough how great of a card Liliana, Heretical Healer is in this deck
Perilous Forays: Great card to help you ramp and gain experience counters, note that it can grab cards such as Overgrown Tomb etc
Protean Hulk: Even if you're not trying to combo off, this large toad,frog,thing is pure valuetown.
Dawntreader Elk: Such an amazing ramp card for Meren
From Beyond: Just another great Awakening Zone effect
Sheoldred, Whispering One: I can't believe that she hasn't been considered, she gives you everything Meren has ever wanted.
Dread Return: Great reanimation card for Meren
For any more ideas or suggestions on stuff to shove into your deck to make it synergise better or be more powerful check out my old Meren deck: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/meren-carrion-queen/I ended up changing it to the Karador deck you commented on, but I'm planning on rebuilding her so that I'll be running her + Karador
1 year ago
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