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Creature — Bird Shaman
Exploit (When this creature enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice a creature.)
When Vulturous Aven exploits a creature, you draw two cards and you lose 2 life.
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Vulturous Aven Discussion
2 months ago
Thanks for your comment :)
Removal: I'm about to play Ghastly Demise as soon as it arrives :D
I lack removal for black creatures (maybe it's just what I feel after playing with Fleshbag Marauder for some time), maybe I'll play Ghastly Demise instead of Chill to the Bone, but I'll need to test it.
Discard: Tasigur's Cruelty is good because you can play it for like 1 mana and it's ok to get 1 or 2 cards, Unburden has cycling, but Unnerve is so bad in late-game, 4 mana is too much for 1 or 2 cards, besides it's always getting countered in my heavy blue group and you can always try to sneak play 1 mana Tasigur's Cruelty and don't lose a turn even if it's countered. Also we are playing 2HG, totem, or sometimes even 1vs1, cause my guys are dying after 1 hour of FFA when nothing's going on at some moments so cheap spells are favored cause the tempo is much more important there.
Vulturous Aven seems great, I'm definitely going to try it.
For Urborg Uprising I'm not sure if I'm ever gonna use it to get 2 cards back xd I'm a little low on creatures, and Gravedigger - Cadaver Imp synergy, when you get back one with another is so good, that I tried to also play Warren Pilferers but it was too expensive. Needs some testing.
Armillary Sphere is sooooo good it's staying for sure.
Ramp spells: I was wondering about bigger ones like Sisay's Ring but I don't like that they are doing nothing but getting destroyed. Small mana rocks were cut long ago because of that. The ones I'm playing are the best of the best, but I'm gonna think about getiing more.
Also I've been wondering on playing regular swamps over Terramorphic Expanse, Evolving Wilds because shuffling isn't very powerful, and I need those swamps, so decreasing the chances for drawing lands isn't very good. What do you think? Haunted Fengraf is also likely to be cut cause I used it maybe 2 times this year and i need black/swamps to hit as hard as it's possible and regain as much life as I can.
2 months ago
Hey there and welcome to the PDH home base.
Here are some ideas for your deck.
Discard: more "each opponent discards" over the "target player discards" stuff
Draw: there is Vulturous Aven as well (can exploit itself)
3 months ago
thank you so much for actively helping me improve the deck. I have been closely looking at the large pile of commons which I own more closely. As well as paying good attention to all the suggestions you both made. I came up with the following list of changes to improve the overall strategy and consistancy of the deck.
- Elvish Ranger: Too vanilla
- Selvala's Enforcer: I don't like giving my oponents free cards
- Treetop Scout: Not relevant enough
- Touch of Moonglove: A defensive removal, better options at hand
- Reave Soul: Too narrow, knowing that Eldrazi flock my meta too
- Plummet: Too narrow
- Murder: Better options at hand
- Asphyxiate: Better options at hand
- Dutiful Return: Better options at hand
- Scour from Existence: Too mana intensive for what it does
- Grim Harvest: overall improvement for what it does
- Culling the Weak: Great synergy with my commander
- Innocent Blood: Great synergy with my commander
- Sundering Vitae: Overall improvement
- Terror: Overall improvement
- Ashes to Ashes: Overall improvement
- Evincar's Justice: Overall improvement
- Entourage of Trest: Overall improvement
- Priest of Titania: Huge improvement
- Vulturous Aven : Great synergy with my commander
Thank you both for all the great recommendations. I have put a few still on the maybeboard, as I do not own them yet. But these changes feel like a mayor improvement to the deck already and I can't wait to see this build into action. If anyone still spots possible upgrades or weak links, then I love to hear you about it!
If anyone wishes to chat with me or other fellow magic players about EDH, Pauper EDH or any other format, I can also be found in here most of the time. Feel welcome to join this discord channel at any time.
6 months ago
Carrion Feeder, Viscera Seer, Animate Dead, Bloodthrone Vampire, Hidden Stockpile, Stingscourger, Bone Shredder, Bygone Bishop, Devouring Swarm, Kathari Bomber, Pawn of Ulamog, Victimize, Cabal Executioner, Dauthi Mindripper, Flesh-Eater Imp (if you wanna be mean), Marsh Flitter, Vulturous Aven, Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder, Karmic Guide, Knight-Captain of Eos, Reveillark, Solar Tide, Butcher of Malakir, Corpse Connoisseur, Burnished Hart, Priest of the Blood Rite, Sin Collector,
Cards to think about
9 months ago
Hello there Kylesafgt, thanks for all of your suggestions! I changed the deck up a bit based on your input and some of my own ideas. Before it was kind of a control/drain/beatdown hybrid, now it's just control/drain.
Sheoldred, Whispering One was actually in here for the longest time, I just recently switched her out for Massacre Wurm because of her price and because I heard that she was redundant with Meren. I've moved her back in now though.
I think I actually prefer Wall of Blossoms over Vulturous Aven, it's cheaper than the Aven so I can get it out earlier in the early game, and in the late game I should have a sac outlet anyway so I'm not too concerned about that. I might change my mind later though.
9 months ago
Great deck! Reminds me alot of how mine once looked.
Cards that I can see that I would consider subpar/not synergistic enough, if I were to run them myself:
Pathbreaker Ibex: Great card, I think it could gain an immense amount of power if you ran Lord of Extinction
Wall of Blossom: Personally I'd run Vulturous Aven over this, lets you get an experience counter too and you can target itself. I never had a problem with it being 4 cmc as Meren can easily rack up counters.
Mazirek: The counters can pile up quickly and he can get out of control, but the problem is that Meren wants your creatures dying so those counters won't be sticking around for long. You could replace him with Victimize?
Champion of Lambholt: You're probably better off running something that'll really give your deck a kick. For example, from your sideboard I can see Shriekmaw in there, WHY? I'd slot this back in your deck asap as he's an absolutely abusable monster in mine.
Cards you should add:
Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip!!!!!!!Liliana is an absolute monster in this deck and there's alot of factors I'll need to cover to get this point across. Firstly, she's a creature to start off with and Meren adores creatures being in her graveyard. Therefore Liliana is a very easy card to get back to the field especially due to her low cmc. Secondly, the way she flips to her Planeswalker side is hilariously easy (Have I mentioned that Meren loves things dying?). Once you flip her with easy you gain a 2/2 zombie which you can easily just use as sacrifice fodder or a nifty little attacker. Her first ability (+2) is one sided, everyone chucks a card into the graveyard. But you don't care about cards going to the graveyard, that's just a second hand to you because of all your reanimation effects. Her second ability (-X) allows you to reanimate any non-legendary creature that you have in your graveyard. Just another big stupid reanimation effect that can grab almost any creature is just great. Her third ability (-8) is potentially game winning in almost every deck, especially this one. You see, we want things to be constantly dying and once she has this emblem, every time something dies it just comes back to the field under our control. Now we run alot of destruction effects such as removal, gravepacts and stax effects so we'll be constantly forcing our opponents to sacrifice things (which will in turn come back under our control). I just cannot stress enough how great of a card Liliana, Heretical Healer is in this deck
Perilous Forays: Great card to help you ramp and gain experience counters, note that it can grab cards such as Overgrown Tomb etc
Protean Hulk: Even if you're not trying to combo off, this large toad,frog,thing is pure valuetown.
Dawntreader Elk: Such an amazing ramp card for Meren
From Beyond: Just another great Awakening Zone effect
Sheoldred, Whispering One: I can't believe that she hasn't been considered, she gives you everything Meren has ever wanted.
Dread Return: Great reanimation card for Meren
For any more ideas or suggestions on stuff to shove into your deck to make it synergise better or be more powerful check out my old Meren deck: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/meren-carrion-queen/I ended up changing it to the Karador deck you commented on, but I'm planning on rebuilding her so that I'll be running her + Karador
1 year ago
1 year ago
I've been seeing a lot of Alesha decks due to that video. I've had my own for ages, so I can make a couple of recommendations to add more to this deck.
Lands: Geier Reach Sanitarium, good for putting creatures in the graveyard. Ash Barrens, I love this card, because it can color-fix for you and whatever color you choose you can have it enter the battlefield untapped meaning you can use it right away. Maze of Ith, Though it doesn't produce mana you can tap it to stop a big massive stompy creature from smashing into you or you can target your commander so once you've activated the attack trigger you can prevent any damage dealt to it if your opponents all have massive blockers.
Creatures: Big Game Hunter, Intrepid Hero since they remover creatures that are more massive than your commander. BGH works right away while IH given some time can become repeatable removal. Vulturous Aven can give you repeatable card draw. Grenzo, Havoc Raiser can cause shenanigans for your opponents forcing them to swing their massive stompy creatures at your other opponents causing forced trades or force their smaller important creatures into attacking into another opponent's massive blockers effectively killing it. He also provides some card value if you choose to exile cards instead. Balefire Liege also works in fiving your creatures a buff while messing with your opponent's life totals and increasing your own. Peacekeeper is also nice since it can keep your opponent's from attacking and is recurable.
Artifacts: Rakdos Signet, Orzhov Signet, Boros Signet, If you find yourself needing more ramp these can be very helpful. If you want another Goblin Bombardment I'd recommend Blasting Station, since most loops will return the creature after being sacrificed it will untap the Blasting Station so inifinite sacrifices are still possible with it. Noetic Scales Considering most of your creatures will be smaller than your opponents the scales will likely effect your opponents more causing them to bounce and recast their creatures, and it can remove potential blockers. So long as you have 3 or more cards in hand it will never backfire on you.
Enchantments: Animate Dead, Surprisingly you missed a combo. If Leonin Relic-Warder is in your graveyard and you have Goblin Bombardment on the battlefield you can use Animate Dead to bring back the Relic Warder. Relic Warder then exiles Animate Dead. Since Animate Dead leaves the battlefield a sacrifice trigger for the Leonin Relic Warder is put on the stack. While its on the stack and before the Leonin Relic Warder has been sacrificed you can instead sacrifice the relic warder with Goblin Bombardment dealing 1 damage to an opponent. Relic Warder leaves the battlefield returning Animate Dead back onto the battlefield from exile. You can then target the Leonin Relic Warder with it and repeat the process all over again. Dance of the Dead also works as an alternative to Animate Dead. Break Through the Line is utterly evil with Master of Cruelties since it can give him haste and you can give him unblockable before blockers are declared. Phyrexian Arena is also a helpful card since it can give you additional draws on each of your turns. Sinister Concoction allows you to discard a creature card while removing an opponent's creature.
Instants: Path to Exile is a handy creature removal spell. Vengeful Dreams is also a handy removal spell since it allows you to discard creature cards to exile your opponents attacking creatures. Lightning Axe can also allow you to discard a creature to remove a creature as well, but this time at any time. Anguished Unmaking, Chaos Warp, Both are handy permanent removal spells you can run in your colors. Abolish, this card can be a free-cost card if you have a Plains in hand since it can removal an opponents artifact or enchantment when they think you're tapped out. Argivian Find is also useful in case one of your opponents destroys one of your artifacts or enchantments you use in your combos you can return it back to your hand.
Sorceries: Buried Alive is a useful tutor that allows you to put any three of your creature cards from your library into your graveyard. Day of Judgment, Blasphemous Act, Chain Reaction, are all effective boardwipes you can use. Demonic Tutor is also a good tutor effect since it costs less than Diabolic Tutor. Gamble is another fun tutor spell to use and given your odds the more cards you have in hand the less chances it will force you to discard something important. Do or Die is another deliciously vicious card you can also use since it can cut your opponents boardstate in half.