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1 month ago
You seem to have the only Dire deck that's public at the moment (I have my own private one), so I'm going to go ahead and spew my ideas here:
Commander + Combat Celebrant + Mortuary + a haste source gives endless combat steps. The Celebrant can to some extent be replaced by Breath of Fury, Scourge of the Throne or Godo, Bandit Warlord. Mortuary can to some extent be replaced by Haunted Crossroads or Bone Harvest/Footbottom Feast/Gravepurge. The combo is pretty easily disrupted so Conqueror's Flail or something is probably recommended.
1 month ago
I think your problem is that you obviously want to be bringing your graveyard back into the battlefield as your strategy, but you also have a bunch of cards creating tokens. I’d replace those with resurrection focused cards.
1 month ago
1x Hover Barrier - Not a huge fan of defenders in decks as they usually stall out the game rather than add value.
1x Dreadwaters - not the most milling. if you had a higher land curve id say its fine.
1x Fog Bank - same as Hover Barrier
1x Returned Centaur - Not too useful as a creature, essentially paying 4 mana to mill four cards which you can get better value for.
1x Sidisi's Faithful - your deck isnt revolved around sacrificing and I dont think you have enough cards that you'd be okay with sacrificing for this to be viable.
1x Sigiled Starfish - Scrying is cool and useful, but once again more value can be added to this deck.
1x Wall of Frost - same as Hover Barrier
1x Wight of Precinct Six - Better options.
1x Mind Sculpt - In edh a one-use 7 mill card isn't worth. Every card should add good value.
1x Paranoid Delusions - If this deck revolved around unblockable attacking this would be good, but since it doesn't it's just a 3 mill card.
1x Reave Soul - This could also stay in, but most threats in edh are generally above three and this being a sorcery hurts its value.
1x Tormented Thoughts - Again, you don't have creatures to sacrifice, so I wouldn't use sacrificing as a function in this deck.
1x Chronic Flooding - This can be a good card if someone is mana starved, but more often than not it's gonna just make that one land go unused.
1x Macabre Waltz - Not the strongest way to get back creatures, getting them onto the battlefield is a more efficient use of your mana.
1x Duskmantle Guildmage - can generate mill when you need and can combo with the first effect to do a LOT of damage.
1x Jace's Archivist - Drawing aspect, gets cards in graveyard, can give you a new hand. Great card.
1x Notion Thief - I'm almost mad I'm including this but this is busted. unfortunately, it'll probably get killed all the time.
1x Psychic Spiral - A lot of Mill potential.
1x Talent of the Telepath - seven mill and you get to steal one or two spells.
1x Diabolic Tutor - can never have enough tutors.
1x Mindcrank - This can honestly win the game.
1x Life's Finale - Board wipes are always nice.
1x Stolen Identity - Copying shit is nice, but the cipher is what makes this so good.
1x Manic Scribe - Not the strongest but can be nice. assuming its later in the game, four card types should be in the graveyard so thats 3 mill every upkeep.
1x Traumatize - Fuck this card.
1x Soul Manipulation - counter that also mills.
1x Body Double - could probably get a better card to replace this. but late game when graveyards are fat this can come in handy.
1x Dimir Doppelganger - since you'll play other people who use graveyards, you can exile creatures from graveyards to make them unusable, while still getting your use.
Cards you can keep but I personally dont like in the deck:
Omniscience - omniscience is op and I get why you'd want it but your mana curve is pretty low and it costs so much that I doubt youd get it out and make use of it.
Altar of the Brood - I dont know how this plays in games, but you're not getting out a lot of permanents so i dont see how this works too well.
Gravepurge - this lets you get back any creature into your hand, which is good, but you could just get a card that puts it back onto the battlefield.
Thoughtscour - this is realistically just a draw card.
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver - I dont know how to feel about this, the exile feature kinda messes with your use from the graveyard style but you can use the second effect to get some of the creatures. It puts all of those exiled cards into a world only he can interact with which makes him good and useful, but limits your decks synergy.
Animate Dead - theres a lot of revive from graveyard cards in this deck is all im gonna say. maybe too many.
Curse of the Bloody Tome - this is helpful and makes sure someones getting milled which is good, but two an upkeep isnt very strong.
Sands of Delirium - not bad and gives you ability to mill every turn, but this is only usable when you can't do anything since you need to have disposable mana.
Cards that should be abused more:
Sphinx's Tutelage - if you make your deck able to draw more this card can be ridiculously op.
Broken Cards you can add (may be Expensive):
Lich Lord of Unx and Undead Alchemist - are both great but you'd have to turn your deck into a zombie deck and it would make you rely less on other graveyards. I dont think relying on other graveyards is good. this could also add a sacrifice element and you could use cards like Altar of Dementia. - overhauling to a zombie deck would be expensive but i think it'd be really effective.
Tunnel Vision - this could be dumb busted, i saw a combo of if you have a card that lets you put on the bottom of someones library then use this you immediately mill them out. That's gay tho dont do that.
Trepanation Blade - this is some nice mill and adds damage and attack to a possibility of your deck.
Extractor Demon - you'd need to run zombies.
Dralnu, Lich Lord - i hate to say it but zombies is looking like the way to go. get more effectiveness out of your spells.
Phenax, God of Deception - if you want your deck to be less based around mill and more just blue black interactions this dude's good. can make a defender deck worthwhile. probably the best consistent mill card I've seen.
Havengul Lich - cast creatures from ALL graveyards. shit i might buy this guy.
Sewer Nemesis - good
Decree of Pain - boardwipes are op
4 months ago
I take it this is a take on an Aristocrats deck. If so, you've really got some things to change. Why do you have Odric, Lunarch Marshal, the two paragons, and Nantuko Husk? Instead of these, you could include more Xathrid Necromancer, Ghoulcaller Gisa, and Butcher of Malakir. You could also include cards like Ashnod's Altar, Anointed Procession, and Secure the Wastes. Cut Captain of the Watch, it's not helpful. Chainer's Edict or Fleshbag Marauder could be useful, as is Anowon, the Ruin Sage. Include 4 Butcher of Malakir and more Xathrid Necromancer. More token makers could also be useful. Gravepurge was a good choice. In your sideboard, you're only allowed to have 15 cards, and the monuments/Oketra are useless, and Champion of Stray Souls is bad. You also should improve your manabase with cards like Concealed Courtyard and Forsaken Sanctuary. If you have money for them, you could get Godless Shrine, Marsh Flats or Fetid Heath. Instead of Tragic Slip, just run something like Anguished Unmaking, Fatal Push, or Doom Blade. Also, you need a boardwipe like End Hostilities, Wrath of God, or Settle the Wreckage(best option). For token makers, use Legion's Landing Flip. Another good sac outlet is Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, if you can flip it. Your sideboard needs a little bit of hate for graveyard shenanigans, so a couple copies of Rest in Peace are in order, as well as more recursion like Ravos, Soultender.
4 months ago
Coward_Token Awesome suggestions. I like the line of thinking you have.
I honestly had not considered Scroll Rack, but I absolutely see how it could work very well in the deck. It gives a similar function as Sylvan Library but actually combos a bit better as you point out. I will have to play test it a bit and see if I can find room for it.
I really like your picks for graveyard hate answers. So far my play group has not given enough focus on graveyard hate to make me feel like I need to go this route yet, but if they do then I'm pretty sure Gravepurge and Footbottom Feast are going to find a place in the deck.
Thanks again for the suggestions!
4 months ago
Guess you've excluded Earthcraft because of its price? Otherwise I feel it's preferable over Cryptolith Rite due to not requiring haste, although the low amount of non-Swamp basics might make it worse.
How do you feel about good ol' Scroll Rack? It lets you put accidentally drawn demons back on the library and also combos nicely with Thrumming Stone (esp. with Secret Salvage; only to get 29 Apostles on the ground while drawing as many cards! (although that's probably excessive for more than one reason))
4 months ago
I'm not too sure on why I did the color combo. I guess I wanted to diversify my deck if that makes sense, and picked the white and black since vampires seemed to have both.
I'm thinking of what I want my deck to do... Probably trying to get a bunch of Vampire tokens out with lifelink, and try to control.
Going to be adding some of those lands you mentioned.
I want to focus on the synergy. I'm not sure what I could possibly have the deck do. I'm thinking about adding 4xElenda, the Dusk Rose to build her up and sacrifice the creatures from the planeswaker. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks for your help.
5 months ago
The first card that comes to mind is Yahenni, Undying Partisan; it's a step toward the speed problem and not enough fatty problem, and fits the sac theme if you decide that. Sometimes to speed up your game, you have to slow down your opponent with Frozen AEther, Urabrask the Hidden, Baral's Expertise (which speeds you up as well), Vandalblast, Static Orb, etc. Beside that, there's ramp and sneaking in cards to really speed up your game. Consider Sneak Attack or Quicksilver Amulet, Deathrender or Clone Shell; also consider rocks like Commander's Sphere, Dreamstone Hedron, Hedron Archive, Heartstone/ Carnival of Souls for unearth, Semblance Anvil and Nightscape Familiar. There's also cards that help your opponent as well, but if you've more value it could work: Mana Flare, Dream Halls, Braids, Conjurer Adept.
Situations where you're in a stahlwart, loosing, and have huge problems, are different from situation where you're at parity and have equal footing. At parity, card advantage and evasion rule. Chariot of Victory and Haunted Cloak, Archetype of Endurance/ Archetype of Aggression/ Filth/ Wonder/ Brawn, Hot Soup/ Deepfathom Skulker/ Whispersilk Cloak, maybe Trailblazer's Boots or Prowler's Helm, all of these can help close a game. This deck needs much more draw, especially with some discard outlets you have. Cards like Arcanis/ Humble Defector (good unearth target), Skullclamp, The Immortal Sun, Harvester of Souls, Phyrexian Arena, Divination/ Faithless Looting/ Concentrate, Chandra, Flamecaller, Open Into Wonder. If you're loosing, usually board wipes are the best answer. Black Sun's Zenith, Toxic Deluge, Archfiend of Depravity, Perilous Vault/ Worldfire, All Is Dust, all for dealing with indestructible. You could also add some fatties or deathtouchers like Taurean Mauler, Consuming Aberration, Scourge of Geier Reach, Nighthowler, Ophiomancer, Ogre Slumlord.
It's rather hard to suggest versatile cards without answering direct metas, do you have any specific cards or strategies giving you trouble right now?
For general versatility, there's Rakdos Charm/ Rampaging Ferocidon, Gravepurge/ Footbottom Feast to protect your graveyard, which is rather important in this deck, Thief of Blood/ Vampire Hexmage for atraxa/ planeswalkers. For a combo heavy meta, there's Time Stop/ Summary Dismissal, Torpor Orb/ Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Praetor's Grasp/ Sadistic Sacrament to extract combo pieces. Stranglehold, Defense Grid/ Wild Ricochet (which is a counterspell) for control decks. Clever Impersonator or Phyrexian Metamorph adds a bunch of versatility, maybe some tutors to directly answer something.
For this deck, I would reinforce your themes of mill, reanimation, and draw, and probably add more ramp and board wipes. I personally like ETB/ death triggers over big 'uns and tokens, so that's going to heavily influence my opinion. If you were to go wide, you could add threaten effects and Faerie Artisans to sac them, you could add Genesis Chamber/ Grave Titan/ Wurmcoil Engines/ Spawning Pit for tokens, Dragon Throne of Tarkir for combat tricks. Also, to make the deck stronger, I could point out some of the weaker cards. Like Worn Powerstone, I'd rather add Hedron Archive or Dreamstone Hedron; Star Compass is OK, but I wanted to point it out because it doesn't fix your colors, I'd suggest Realmwright to unearth/ Fellwar Stone; Spell Pierce is not too good in my opinion as is way too easy to pay, I'd rather have Mental Misstep/ Foil; Death's Approach can be replaced with Snuff Out, Sudden Death, Sickening Shoal with all the big creatures you have. You made a lot of good picks though, like Teferi's Veil, Flayer of the Hatebound, Stitch Together, etc., those are rather strong in my opinion.
If I had the commanders or strategies you're facing I think I could answer better, but I hope this helps you take step towards a stronger deck! I'm always here