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Pithing Needle Discussion
2 days ago
I hope at least some of this is helpful!
First of all, 1x Bojuka Bog can be a mainboard land that fulfills the same utility as Tormod's Crypt. An additional 1x Scavenger Grounds can supplement the Bog and add flexibility. If you're planning on shelling out crazy cash for shocks and fetches, you might as well add 1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , too.
I second UndeadxPenguins in moving the Leylines to the sideboard. I might go even farther and say that Leyline of the Void might not be worth it. Generally speaking, I prefer spells that apply to all opponents - IE - I'm excluded from the effects.
Multiplayer burn is basically impossible. I totally understand wanting to make a Rakdos burn deck instead of a Boros one. I, too, feel a seemingly innate desire to break convention. Additionally, I've had the fortune of pulling a full set of Dragonskull Summit s from booster packs, so I've trying to build a multiplayer Rakdos deck. That said, neither red nor black are colors I use regularly or primarily and I'm sorry to report my efforts have yet to yield any results I'm particularly pleased with. For reference, my most recent attempts are: Tainted Aria and Forgotten Elements. One take-away from those decks Aria of Flame and Priest of Forgotten Gods - each says "...any number of target players..." or "each opponent" - there aren't hoards of cards that have language like that, so any spells that strike your fancy that have language like that are going to be good. All that said, I doubt you'll ever be able to deal damage fast enough to more than one opponent with any consistency. That doesn't mean you can't make a darn mean deck, but that perhaps it would be better to forego the goal of speed in favor of broader, repeatable effects.
I think one way around the obvious limit of trying to deal out 40 or even 60 damage with a burn deck in a multiplayer format is to include more passive threats - dropping some instants in favor of creatures and enchantments - I'm thinking spells like Eidolon of the Great Revel , Harsh Mentor , and Manabarbs . While, like spells that say "all opponents," there aren't a ton of these sort of spells out there, there are some good ones.
Since you're running so few creatures, perhaps it would also be worth considering board wipes as a means of dealing with multiplayer threats. Blasphemous Act comes to mind, as well as the eternally popular Damnation .
Angrath, the Flame-Chained seems like a possible fit, though I question the CMC viability.
I suggest you add "Multiplayer" to this decks hubs.
I don't put any stock in TappedOut's "Competitive Meter." I showed with my deck, 100% Competitive, 100% Loser that the Meter does not take into account the interaction between cards. So if you make changes and the Meter says it's less competitive, I wouldn't worry at all.
Sideboard: Everlasting Torment , Dismember - deals with indestructibles, Extirpate / Surgical Extraction , Geth's Verdict - deals with Hexproofs and Shrouds, Pithing Needle , Ratchet Bomb , Elixir of Immortality .
3 days ago
A few artifacts perhaps worth considering: Mainboard: Metallic Mimic . Sideboard: Pithing Needle , Ratchet Bomb , Elixir of Immortality . Non-artifacts worth considering: Mainboard: Inventors' Fair , Scavenger Grounds , Buried Ruin , Field of Ruin , Ghost Quarter .
If you decide to splash a color, I'd suggest white for Dispatch . With white, you also get an array of decent broad disruption spells for the sideboard IE: Oblivion Ring , Path to Exile , Journey to Nowhere , Faith's Shield / Gods Willing / Apostle's Blessing , Disenchant , Revoke Existence , Sanctimony , Teyo, the Shieldmage , Leyline of Sanctity , Shalai, Voice of Plenty , Aegis of the Gods , etc, etc, etc.
5 days ago
Looks very close to my deck "Sand Flies." A few spells I run in that I recommend here:
Always Watching . I've found a full set of AW along with a full set of Favorable Winds drastically improves the consistency of pumps hitting the battlefield.
Signal Pest - The big problem with this creature is that Favorable Winds doesn't apply. I think it makes up for that by essentially being another pump, and for only 1CMC! In mine, 2x SP, 4xAW, & 4xFW means there are 10 pump spells to make all my little 1/1 flying creatures often become 3/3's and bigger.
If you include Always Watching, then Segovian Angel isn't needed. Also, I completely disagree with DefectiveDwarf regarding it over Healer's Hawk . While a 1/1 HH might not be all that meaningful, a 3/3 HH is a menace. And it's not that uncommon to get 2 or even 3x HH down in a single game - 3x 3/3 flying, lifelink is good enough that you can let your opponent hit you.
I really like Squadron Hawks in my deck, mainly because I see it as pseudo draw-card. It's just a really solid way to keep creatures hitting the battlefield turn after turn. I've playtested my deck quite a bit and the Hawks have been better than I'd hoped.
Even if you don't add Signal Pest, I'd still suggest adding 1x Buried Ruin . Just playing it can make opponents second guess the wisdom of removing an artifact you control. Other lands I'd suggest considering: Temple of Enlightenment - shifting a scry ability into the mana-base means more room for other utility effects. Scavenger Grounds - it's pretty useful to be able to exile some people's graveyards.
I think Immortal Servitude is better than Vesperlark and worth the extra casting cost. It tends to hit right at the point opponents think they've got you licked, which also tends to be devastating for them.
Over the years, I come to realize that no matter how low a deck's AVG CMC is, 20 is really the lowest number of lands a deck can scrape by on. Of course, there are sure to be exceptions to such a rule of thumb, but generally speaking, 20 is the bottom number. Good decks can get going with 3-4 spells and 2-4 lands in an opening hand. A lot of decks try to do too much or over-kill opponents when it typically takes a lot less to win. If we consider 4 spells and 3 lands a good opening hand, that means statistically, about 57% of a deck is spells (34-35) and 42% lands (25-26). Now I've always been a bit rebellious and for years have tried to build decks with 16 lands, but I'm sad to report it doesn't yield great results. I'm typically trying to include as much as 25 lands in most the new brews I work on, but it usually ends up being more like 22. I think 20 is enough here. Another way to put all this would be to say I think you need to cut a couple creatures or other spells.
Spells I'd suggest dropping: Vesperlark (too narrow), Spell Queller (too high CMC), Curious Obsession (too narrow), Smuggler's Copter (not a creature, resource demanding, not great to discard).
As crazy as it sounds I'm actually considering dropping Pride of the Clouds . It's a major target that almost always get removed. It seems like I've had better games when all my creatures were close to the same power/toughness. It's hard for opponents to deal with decks that don't have singular wincons.
Other spells to consider: Dovin, Grand Arbiter - it's really fun to +2 him and add another 2-4 loyalty counters. It's actually pretty easy to ultimate and that ultimate is pretty good. Serra the Benevolent - another pump for fliers and a Worship ultimate is not bad at all. Sideboard/utilities: Generous Gift , Faith's Shield , Blessed Alliance , Negate , Oblivion Ring , Celestial Purge , Disenchant , Revoke Existence , Nevermore , Ratchet Bomb , Elixir of Immortality , Pithing Needle , Teyo, the Shieldmage , Witchbane Orb , Sanctimony , Shalai, Voice of Plenty , Leyline of Sanctity , Tormod's Crypt .
2 weeks ago
Make sure you use snow basic lands. I would recommend having some blue Snow lands just in case they play a Karn, the Great Creator , Collector Ouphe , Pithing Needle or Stony Silence . Let me know if it works!
3 weeks ago
In this game, the power level of cards is variable; some cards remain either powerful or weak, but others may change, depending upon other cards that are printed in the future.
Therefore, this thread is for discussing cards that retroactively became more powerful.
The first two cards that I shall mention are Doubling Season and Pithing Needle , which both became much more powerful after planeswalkers became a card type, since they had significant interactions with those cards. Phyrexian Revoker , however, was printed after planeswalkers had become a card type, so it does not qualify for this thread.
The next card that I shall mention is Captain Sisay , who became more powerful after all planeswalkers were changed to be legendary, since she could now search for a planeswalker. The new version of her, Sisay, Weatherlight Captain , does not qualify, since she was printed after planeswalkers had become a creature type.
After planeswalkers became a card type, AEther Snap became more powerful, because it can eliminate them instantly.
What does everyone else say about this? What are some cards that retroactively became more powerful?
4 weeks ago
cute idea but i think people will get wise to this after a game or 2 and enchantment removal/ Pithing Needle will shut you down.
I'd suggest implementing a Landfall theme to help support a heavy land count:
Grazing Gladehart , Undergrowth Champion , Lotus Cobra , Embodiment of Insight , Baloth Woodcrasher , Avenger of Zendikar , Murasa Ranger , Oran-Rief Hydra , Turntimber Basilisk , Jaddi Offshoot , Territorial Baloth , Snapping Gnarlid , Snapping Creeper , Scythe Leopard , Rampaging Baloths
1 month ago
With your colors you have a decent amount of sideboard option. You already run relic, which hits both dredge and phoenix. Anger of the Gods can help both board wipe against fast aggro decks, and again hurt graveyard based decks when they can't get their creatures back. Surgical Extraction is a great card, but expensive. You already have Blood Moon , which can shut down tron, as well as nonred decks with few basics. Pithing Needle is a nice all around card, as it can name anything from planeswalkers to fetchlands. I would also look at maindecking Lightning Bolt , so you have a bit of removal or direct damage. I would cut the Nature's Claim for Shatterstorm if you want more removal, you don't want to provide too much life gain to your opponents. Hope this helps
1 month ago
Okay lets break down the justifications you gave, because I still think they merit changing.
Choosing not to run Mishra's Workshop in a deck that combos and staxs with artifacts is just silly. The problem is far more with your deck building choices of running 20 artifacts in an artifact commander oriented deck than the card itself. I shouldn't have to explain the value of 3 extra mana going towards your paradox engine or a stax piece like trinisphere, but apparently I do. Getting to winning pieces faster is better, run it. You also have the luxury of a mulligan on hands when its dead, similar to how Gaea's Cradle is a great card but dead in some hands.
Seat of the Synod combos with Mox Opal Transmute Artifact Inventors' Fair Reshape Unwinding Clock and is pullable for X=0 from Tezzeret the Seeker or Whir of Invention , meaning you can ramp in mono blue. Also recoverable from GY with Academy Ruins . Meanwhile, it nonbos with Back to Basics . Do some cost/benefit analysis and come back to me on that one.
Expedition Map is tutor density, which is your single biggest problem. If you are in a creature heavy meta, it functions as Tabernacle #2, why would you not run it? The value engine with Academy Ruins is icing on the cake. It's also part of a tutor chain using Inventors' Fair which leads to winning lines. Calling it cute without realizing it gives you more consistency with another winning line that also grinds value is just ignorant. Similar to Seat of the Synod , look at your own cards before rejecting inclusions.
Legacy's Allure is 100% a bad card. Assuming you somehow land that on turn 1, it still isn't anywhere close to live until turn 3. Unless the opposing creature is already on the board turn 1, your opponent will remove it before they play whatever creature they need that you would steal anyways, and if the creature is on the board turn 1 you should remove it before turn 3 anyways. Many stax creatures are symmetrical, so stealing one does nothing because those decks are designed to work around the effects. Also Gitrog is a 6/6 so assuming turn 1 Allure it still won't be live until turn 7, at which point Gitrog has already won. You can make the argument for proliferate, but you aren't running any. Aether Spellbomb is faster, combos with your commander, can turn itself into a cantrip if there aren't good creature targets, synergizes with that giant list of cards I talked about with Seat of the Synod, and is less color intensive. If you really need another theft effect, Vedalken Shackles is significantly better and combos all the same ways.
Howling Mine grinds values in longer games. Even if you give your opponent 1 or 2 cards, if you end up drawing 6 or 7 cards from it you are getting a better advantage. It works better in a stax build over a combo build, but then that leads to my next point. If you're really scared run Blinkmoth Well
You should build this as a stax deck. Compare this to an Arcum Dagson deck. The reason that is able to be a fast combo deck is because it has a tutor in the command zone that leads to winning lines. Meanwhile, Urza generates mana and expensive card advantage from the command zone, which benefits you when games go longer. Why would anyone build this deck with these pieces when Arcum does the same thing but better? They are the same CMC, but Dagson is less color intensive so its easier to ramp into with mono blue.
Even if you are trying to run this as fast combo, you aren't making good choices. Why are you running Fact or Fiction and not Frantic Search ? Why is your counterspell density so high when you should be tutoring or drawing to win? 13 counterspells with the meme new Narset spell for 14? Why? The card advantage your deck generates isn't high enough to sustain a package that big. If you're trying to fast combo why are you focusing on playing defensive? You don't need that many counterspells to protect your own combo.
Why are you running Power Artifact but not Basalt Monolith ? Otherwise power artifact is literally a dead draw if Grim Monolith is gone or unavailable. It opens up more options to get infinite and win with Urza
Cut Future Sight . Focus on assembling infinite mana to use Urza as an outlet. Not a single cEDH list runs it for a reason, expensive and slow. If you have infinite mana to plow through your deck with Future Sight you can just do the same with Urza. Wasted slot.
Running Isochron Scepter Dramatic Reversal and Copy Artifact but you aren't running Winds of Rebuke . It has high value outside combo, and high value inside combo. Currently you only have one method of drawing deck outside Urza (Paradox + Voltaic Key + Sensei's Top), which means you are very liable to be hit with Meddling Mage or Pithing Needle or Phyrexian Revoker or Cursed Totem , all of which see play and make your Jace and Labman into dead draws. You should also consider Blue Sun's Zenith for similar reasons, gives an outlet for infinite mana if Urza is turned off or unavailable.
Pithing Needle occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.04%
All decks: 0.16%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%