Spells you control can't be countered by blue or black spells this turn, and creatures you control can't be the target of blue or black spells this turn.
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|2012 Core Set (M12)||Uncommon|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Autumn's Veil occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
Autumn's Veil Discussion
6 days ago
DarthParkarius: Glad you like the deck! In answer to your questions...
1) Necroskitter was always a little... winmore here. It's cute, and is very helpful in a meta with a lot of mana dorks, but in general it kinda just sits there. It's a nice thing to slot in, if you have an extra slot, but... Not necessary to the deck's function.
2) Spidersilk Armor is in here for two reasons. First, this deck has always had issues with flying attackers. We spend our life somewhat aggressively, with cards like Necropotence, but almost nothing in the deck has flying. We have little trouble with attackers on the ground, since we get a lot of expendable deathtouching blockers, but Spidersilk helps patch that issue. Second, with Spidersilk out, we can loop with Yawgmoth, since each snake can survive a counter and still be sacrificed to Yawgmoth.
6 days ago
First off, this is an awesome deck and I’m eager to try something similar. My play group has been morphing into a more competitive combo based meta and this looks like a fun deck to tryout there!
I have a few questions for you! What are your thoughts on Necroskitter? Seems like a powerful card but I’m not sure how often you actually end up killing your opponents creatures if you don’t have Yawgmoth.
Would you be able to explain the main function of Spidersilk Armor? Is it just there to put two -1/-1 counters on your snakes?
Lastly do you find it difficult assembling four pieces for your main combo? Would Autumn's Veil be a reasonable addition?
1 week ago
Nice deck. Some cards I would recommend:
- Castle Garenbrig - It's quite budget and it may help you to get one extra mana.
- Nature's Lore - Similar to Farseek but it comes untapped.
- Finale of Devastation - Works as recursion, tutor and wincon .. (with enough mana).
- Dryad Arbor - Ramps with Green Sun's Zenith.
- Homeward Path - Great if you play against blue / red players.
- Guardian Project - Card Draw.
- Runic Armasaur - I would find a spot in your deck for this card since it's really crazy in competetive games.
- Sylvan Library - I know it's quite expensive, but it's the best green card draw there is ..
- Veil of Summer - Much better than Autumn's Veil
- Nature's Claim - Green competetive staple. And very budget friendly.
1 month ago
You should consider as instant speed protection for your combos also Veil of Summer and Autumn's Veil. The first more often than not also draws you a card, so if you were to choose between one of the two, I'd pick Veil of Summer.
1 month ago
I completely agree on White being one of the best supplementary colors for a Voltron strategy, if not for anything else than their affinity for equipments, auras and not letting the opponent do anything on your turn.
I feel like you're not giving enough credit to Green and Black and too much credit to Blue. Mainly because blue-white (as the preference for at least 2 of the colors for your Commander) don't have that good Voltron commanders to blow the other colors completely out of the waters.
Green have ways to protect with Veil of Summer, Heroic Intervention, Autumn's Veil. Green can re-use the graveyard far better than you give them credit for. Which is not irrelevant if your plan goes awry and your Commander ends up dead or countered a lot. Or if all your equipment gets blown up with a Vandalblast.
Green has a lot of card draw available to them to substitute blue's card draw. And in certain situations their card draw is more efficient than blue, especially for Voltron. Hunter's Insight, Return of the Wildspeaker, Soul's Majesty, Rishkar's Expertise. If you choose the aura approach, there's the entirety of the Enchantress group that white also have some additions for.
And how could I forget about the lovely interaction between trample and deathtouch - you're basically getting unblockable at that point. Hmm, it seems like black is more keen on giving it to creatures than green is.
Moving on to Black, there's a group of surprise cards that Voltron Commanders can take advantage of, like Hatred and Tainted Strike. And the ever-weird Endless Scream that's permanently applied firebreathing. Of course not to mention the best variety of tutors available in Commander.
One way to get past your opponent's defenses is if they don't have any. Black is certainly one of the better to provide in that aspect.
I'm quite certain I don't even do black justice here, but I'll refrain from bloating this response further. I just feel like the ranking is skewed disproportionately.
1 month ago
Cool. I'll check it out.
2 months ago
Your very top tier auto-include for lists is going to look like
- Force of Will "free"
- Pact of Negation "free"
- Swan Song cheap to cast and wide in restrictions
- Mana Drain color heavy but ramps the following turn
- Mental Misstep "free"
- Delay not color heavy and hits any spell, delaying for 3 turns is the same as solving it in very fast competitive EDH
Your situational includes are going to look like
- Force of Negation This can't protect your own combos, so it isn't wanted in every list. This is ran in QUITE A FEW lists though, always worth a consider.
- Counterspell Usually seen in mono or dual color decks as the cost can be hard in some 4 or 5 color shells
- Dispel Sometimes cut for a more general counter
- Muddle the Mixture Limited in scope and color heavy but this is more often slotted as a hard-to-counter tutor with a counterspell as icing on the top
- Narset's Reversal this card is pretty nice. While it does see a lot of play, it definitely isn't an autoinclude yet by any means.
- Spell Pierce Before you mock this card, consider how well it catches ultra fast mana rocks and tutors. Noncreature is very wide, and it stops Sol Ring Mana Crypt Mox Diamond Mox Opal Chrome Mox Mox Amber Mana Vault Vampiric Tutor Imperial Seal Mystical Tutor Worldly Tutor Gamble Dark Ritual and SO MUCH MORE. Even for a tempo card, you're still going to catch weird stuff like someone's Rhystic Study because they tapped out to pay for it. Its very strong against blistering fast combo decks, which is why it sees competitive play.
Other blue stuff is usually just too expensive. Paying over 2 mana for a counterspell just doesn't cut it when there are so many threats for so cheap. Don't pay more than 2 for a counterspell unless it does something wild on top. Counterspells with fewer restrictions on what it can counter are going to be better.
This is where it gets saucy boys
- Red Elemental Blast Pyroblast are VERY good. In a pod, there is almost definitely blue at the table. Every single red deck can slot these for commander without fear. Do note that REB works against any spell that includes blue (multicolor), while pyro only works against spells that are ONLY blue (monocolor).
- Fork Reverberate (Twincast) these allow you to copy a counterspell to create a counterspell. More access for red to counterspells. They also conveniently work very well against tutors, ramp, big draw spells, and extra turn spells.
- Guttural Response Weird hybrid color and somewhat restricted but still a good include in most RG decks.
- Burnout a bit worse then the elemental blasts as it costs 2 mana and it is limited. The cantrip is nice though
- Mana Tithe not that good in EDH but give it a whirl I guess
- Lapse of Certainty costing 3 hurts, but this is more a tempo card than anything.
- Dash Hopes Don't play this card in EDH lol
- Withering Boon on the chunkier end at 2 CMC, but in a color that doesn't get much of this. The 3 life and the restriction hurt, but definitely EDH playable. Every deck runs a commander, 99% of which are creatures
- Imp's Mischief can counter a spell by having it target Mischief, as can Misdirection Shunt Swerve and Ricochet Trap.
- Veil of Summer 1 mana green Cryptic Command
- Autumn's Veil Counterspell + silence against UB
- Bind I bet you didn't even know this card existed. Cantrips. GOOD IN THE YISAN MIRROR MATCH?
- Avoid Fate Weird protection oriented counterspell
- Nether Void Mostly ran in stax builds, brutal lockout card
- Planar Chaos One of my new favorite cards. Brutal with recursion like Hall of Heliod's Generosity. Play when you're ahead
- Deathgrip Lifeforce These are based if you have any method of color shifting. Realistically, you could run Lifeforce in Momir Hackball. These cards can cause scoops on casual tables lol.
- Vexing Shusher can render counterspells useless. Similarly, Dosan the Falling Leaf Grand Abolisher Prowling Serpopard Gaea's Herald can all protect against counterspells. Far more marginal but still worthwhile are Hall of Gemstone and Ritual of Subdual for turning off counterspells for opponents.