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Stony Silence Discussion
5 days ago
Wait... what stax do you run? Stax is general, tax (Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Sphere of Resistance, Suppression Field), hate (Scavenging Ooze, Stony Silence, Aura Shards), sacrifice (The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Smokestack), tapping (Root Maze, tanglewire, and Winter Orb), and land destruction (Ruination, Armageddon, etc.)
You run some sacrifice effects, maybe 6 that only affect creatures, but stax here is super light, you sure you know what stax is?
(P.S. occasionally Gaddock Teeg, Rule of Law, etc. are also considered stax because they stop players from playing cards, similar to a harsher tax effects, and also mass, repeated discard like Sadistic Hypnotist, and some random effects like Spirit of the Labyrinth and Chains of Mephistopheles)
6 days ago
you definitely need the 4th Bloodghast, you should cut the Vampire Lacerator as it is too low impact and Dusk Legion Zealot does not seem particularly good unless you are going wide. Suggest Viscera Seer for blanking removal+fixing your draw+combo with Bloodghast+combo with Kalastria Highborn. And if you are playing 4 Fatal Push, you'd want some number of fetches. You can also fit Mutavault in as an honorary vampire. Since you have access to white, you'd want powerhouse sideboard cards such as Stony Silence.
1 week ago
Ironically, blood moon doesn't do that much more against Tron then Damping Sphere does in my experience playing this deck. Because 99% of the time, they will blow it up with Oblivion Stone anyways if they draw it (I get nature's claim and sylvan scrying), but this deck generally doesn't pressure the opponent for setting up. but in all honesty Stony Silence and other white cards are what would give you a real edge in my opinion.
In either case, I'm not too concerned with tron, since aggro and combo make up a lot of my meta so tron players generally don't do too well.
2 weeks ago
Hello, I have rebuilt your deck and I am very excited. I love your deck.
In addition, I made a few small changes:
+Arbor Elf (can also untap Savannah or Temple Garden), -Selesnya Signet (Much artifact-hate in the deck: Null Rod, Kataki, War's Wage, Stony Silence...So i think, the creature is better, than the artifact)
What do you think?
2 weeks ago
Actually, yeah, the definition fits that perfectly. Tuvasa is tier 3.
This is the middle tier. They can't usually compete against tier 1 decks, but might do fine with tier 2 decks. They usually have "the Aggro Problem," or they are wildly inconsistent. Most of the "pubstomp" decks that dominate casual meta go in here. They may have a bad reputation, but that doesn't make them tier 1.
Tuvasa can handle aggro swarm with propaganda/ghostly prison, aura of silence for artifact ramp, and stony silence for aggro voltron builds
It is wildly inconsistent, and slow. I play enchantress, and the most powerful combo and stax builds I have achieved over a year of trying has been tier 3 at best. Enchantress and enchantment-based stax is simply to inconsistent, relying on a draw engine, that is subpar in the command zone or not easily able to be put online with bad tutors like Summoner's Pact being needed when you just can't afford the tempo loss. Really, Tuvasa is bad against most tier 2 decks, and is way to slow and durdly for tier 1 to ever be affected by it.
Aura of Silence comes down after the artifact mana. Artifact mana, Sol Ring, Lotus Petal, Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Chrome Mox, Mox Diamond, Grim Monolith, Mox Opal, and the other similar effects come down on turns 1 and 2. Without some very incosistent ramp strategy, Aura of Silence doesn't come down until turn 2 or 3, which is averagely missing most of the artifact mana.
The aggro strategy that sees the most play is Edric Turns, a deck that can attack any other player to get the draws, and easily blow up all of your pillow fort over 40 turns before one shotting you.
Stony Silence is a great card, worse than Null Rod, but good in a stax build. It does help the deck be a good stax deck, however with only a handful of real stax cards, it falls short of making Tuvasa viable. Rest in Peace and Blind Obedience are other cards I have found help out with Tuvasa, and Rule of Law, Arcane Laboratory, Eidolon of Rhetoric, and ocasionally Spirit of the Labyrinth does as well. Blue has Mystic Remora, a card that sees extensive play in cEDH stax builds as well as many blue-based decks in the format, and Rhystic Study exists to help lock out some storm decks by drawing you until you can hit some 0 mana counterspells or a Flusterstorm if they are a Tendrils deck and are not going Aetherflux Reservoir.
Outside of those 11 cards, of which 5 are generally only decent or bad unless in a dedicated deck, enchantment-based decks need red or black for cards like Nether Void, Blood Moon and Stranglehold, however five color enchantments isn't viable due to landbases being too stretched to run Blood Moon or Back to Basics, which leads the whole point to be undermined.
I'll check out your link and see if it has any potential, but I highly doubt it.
3 weeks ago
you may find plenty of use out of Oketra's Monument, dominaria also has some pretty good creatures in Baird, Steward of Argive as a soldier with a defensive effect, Kwende, Pride of Femeref on the other hand interacts well with archetype or field marshal changing that first strike into double. Brave the Elements can really save your board from red board wipes while also being an option to blast past another token deck's army.
if you find yourself facing some stronger commander decks Thalia, Guardian of Thraben can tax those cantrips and most combos competitive lists run, Stony Silence can shutdown the broken mana rocks, Angel of Jubilation can shutdown fetch lands and sac combos Rest in Peace stops those pesky reanimation and delve strategies.
3 weeks ago
play tested Inspiring Statuary i like it alot.. lets me tap through things like Stony Silence / Null Rod for my interaction. Also theres just somthing satisfying about counter spelling or removing somthing before your turn tapping your winter orb to improvise out the spell :)
3 weeks ago
I'm not calling it bad, but very cmpetitive might be a stretch.
Sideboard definately needs some work
Just some fuel for though:
2x Wear // Tear