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Ceremonious Rejection Discussion
19 hours ago
dbpunk: Very true, the point of making the cards would be to make it more viable. Like a burn commander making Lightning Bolt target each opponent instead of a single one. (Wont let it copy when targeting creatures). Not essentially the entire standard/modern/legacy deck strategy, more like taking the theme of a given archetype and making it possible in commander (Adjusting cards to work in multiplayer). There are lots of people who loves burn, but it is very hard making it viable in a semi-powered meta.
You have some very good points, and no, Tarmogoyf and Goblin Guide will probably never see any real play in EDH as they are combat focused, but that is only good as it wont increase the price of the already expensive cards :)
It might be a way to ambitious project i have begun experimentning with, but i have some high hopes and like the creative aspect of it. Success or failure, either way i have fun :)
These themes are quite specific, looking for things more like: Burn, Control, Infect :)
1 week ago
I'd personally keep the ooze (the hate is good right now) and add trackers in place of Spreading Seas, while daredevil becomes a second huntsmaster, swapping remand out for something that more permanently deals with threats- possibly a Ceremonious Rejection given how key colourless cards are in everything I'm playing against, or even Seal of Primordium maindeck. Thats mainly a meta call though- and I'm not an experienced pilot of this archetype. A little higher creature count feels good for me.
The reason I'm looking at swapping spreading seas before anything else is that everyone is prepping for Field of Ruin, so land hate is likely to be less incedentally devastating.
It just feels like against humans and against vengevine its anger or bust, so packing a set of Sweltering Suns/anger might help the list tick over. Knuckleblade might be part of that strat right now- I'd lean into it with a 4 toughness / Anger of the Gods style one sided wipe plan, with counterspells picked to fight KCI/Storm/(possibly tron). Issue is, thats a radically different list, even if the counterspell support is similar. Its difficult to judge without spending a few fridays on it.
2 weeks ago
A few thoughts ...
- It's a meta call of course, but I generally prefer Ceremonious Rejection over Hurkyl's Recall ... partly because it's better vs. KCI but also because it has game vs. Tron and Eldrazi decks.
- With apologies to veeonix, I'm not a big fan of Metallic Mimic in Tribal decks. It's great in an opening hand, but gets progressively worse as the game goes on, so I think it's best as a four-of ... and that has always seemed to be more slots than I wanted to dedicate to the effect.
- I'm not sure, but looking at the Dispel, I'm wondering if Judge's Familiar might be better.
- I'm not sure on Opt vs. Anticipate, but whenever I'm trying to decide between cards like that I just run a split for a while and keep careful track of whenever I draw one but wish it was the other. And I think either would be better than Serum Visions here, just because it seems this deck wants to run at Instant speed as much as possible.
Also, Shapesharer may be too cute, but could be worth a look ... seems like it could enable some powerful shenanigans.
Good luck (and good skill) with the deck!
1 month ago
You have Glissa as your commander and no Executioner's Capsule. Is your meta just strait black? Because then I don't see the point of Contamination. You also have Reanimate, but with maybe one good target for it in The Gitrog Monster. Sheoldred, Whispering One? Herald of Anguish? Even Marionette Master would be Ok. You also run a few tutors for your combos, and that makes sense. But the draw you have around that is Bob, Gitrog, Ad Nauseam, Necropotence, Sylvan Library, Top, Scroll Rack, and Skullclamp. None of this is bad. In fact, most of it fantastic. But I want you to read Glissa, and tell why you don't also have recursion based draw. Solemn Simulacrum, Filigree Familiar, Moriok Replica, Ichor Wellspring, and to a lesser extent, cards like Treasure Keeper or Junk Diver. While we are on the topic of card draw, lets talk about Skullclamp. You have 12 creatures. 7 of them have 1 health, but if you ever put a Skullclamp on Bob and you aren't at 5 or less health, you should never play EDH again. The Lodestone Golem, Metalworker, and Scrap Trawler have the upside of being artifacts, which you have sacrifice outlets to. But only one. Ashnod's Altar? This one is also good with the creatures above with Glissa's recursion. You have only have 2 good targets for Skullclamp that are also artifacts. Why are you even running it?
The amount of artifact sacrificing, or even just artifacts dying, that this deck has is atrociously low. It looks like you took a couple of combos, shoved them in a stax deck, ditching all of the things that make Glissa Stax good (Glissa Stax isn't very good tho). Things like playing Winter Orb, sacrificing on the end step before your turn, tapping a Forbidden Orchard, killing the spirit, bringing back the orb, and doing it all again. This is a poorly constructed deck, with counter synergies, like the fact that 47 of your cards are 2 CMC or less and you run Trinisphere (which can be ok sometimes, but not in a deck that wants to play a KCI combo, because of Myr Retriever), lack of synergies, like the presence of Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and the lack of Cabal Coffers, and just poor card choices, like Entomb + Reanimate with no game winning targets.
This deck VERY far from polished.
PS - I know that if you have the whole KCI combo, you could sac trinsphere, but this immediately turns on Ceremonious Rejection, Mindbreak Trap, Swan Song, etc. I would honestly just ditch the whole KCI combo idea, but keep all of the cards in, because they are still really good with Glissa, because you are right about Trinisphere being a deck breaking card.
1 month ago
The idea here is sweet and I think it has a lot of potential. But I don't like the dragons you're playing.
Thundermaw Hellkite is amazing. As is Stormbreath Dragon. They're not as good with Goryo's Vengeance, but they're much better to cast. I don't like Lathliss or Kolaghan. Glorybringer could be decent - reanimate with Goryo, swing for 4, and burn down a crearture is pretty good value.
For the sideboard, personally I'd start with 4 Anger of the Gods because it wrecks like half the meta. Deadeye Tracker is slow and underwhelming. Play Nihil Spellbomb instead (3 or 4 copies). Ceremonious Rejection and Countersquall are both very good. Also consider 2 copies Dispel. It's very good against burn and control.
I'm not a fan of Izzet Charm. It just doesn't do much. I'd rather see more targeted discard.
1 month ago
Some classic SB cards for mono are:
and counter Magic in general
You'll run into trouble against superior creature decks tho, and mono U doesn't have a lot of answers. Dismember could help
1 month ago
Eh I'm not worried about Tron, not with this deck but in general I have tons of experience against the deck in all its flavors. Ceremonious Rejection is great against all varieties. The most effective way to beat Tron is just to race it. Normal Tron is free the first 3 turns. Eldrazitron is susceptible to land destruction and grave hate. U-Tron is the most resilient but weak to artifact removal and blowing up their Academy Ruins. Shadow of Doubt also has a lot of targets in the u-Tron match.
1 month ago
parentalcon: I actually haven't had the opportunity to test out Damping Sphere yet. I do like that Ceremonious Rejection works with Snappy though, and has more uses overall than Sphere. I'll keep that card in mind.