Snow-Covered Plains

Snow-Covered Plains

Basic Snow Land — Plains

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Snow-Covered Plains Discussion

Guerric on [Primer] Helming the Host of Heaven: A Giada Guide

2 days ago

Hi decidingtoast! Thanks for the comments and suggestions! Idol of Oblivion is a great card in a token deck. Nonetheless, while we make angel tokens as much as is reasonable, we only do so in the most efficient ways, and I think tying draw to token generation will result in inconsistent draw. This ties into a misconception about the deck. I think some builds online that I've seen really try to go out on tokens. While free tokens are indeed great with Giada since she pumps them, she doesn't really incentivize them over cast angels. Since angel tokens are big and fly, game design makes them more difficult to generate, and if we leaned more into this theme we'd be committing a lot of mana to it and would be slowing down the deck quite a bit. Instead we really only play Angelic Accord effects where we get free angel tokens from our life gain, which synergizes with both the angel piece of our theme and the life-gain aspects of the deck. I've only recently added Eye of Vecna so the jury is still out, but its not even close to painful due to our life gain, and is unconditional and consistent, even if we do have to pay each time, which is the downside of the card. Nonetheless paying for our cards is a thing in white, and at least with Eye since its an upkeep trigger we'll always have the mana to pay if we want to (whereas if we gain life with Dawn of Hope out after tapping out it won't do us much good, since we won't be able to pay the ). Tome of Legends, on the other hand, is a card I have a lot of experience of and is nothing short of amazing. Since Giada flys and has vigilance we can usually attack with her every turn, and can then tap her to cast more angels during our second main phase, meaning we'll always have the counters to power it and will basically get one card for every turn, which is a great rate.

As for Faceless Haven, the reason this card is a consideration for the deck is because of a wacky combo with Snow-Covered Plains and The Book of Exalted Deeds. Basically if we make a haven a creature, we can then sac the book to put a divinity counter on it. At the end of turn it will revert to being a land but will keep the counter, basically meaning we have a land version of Platinum Angel. Since land destruction is less common this will be a major barrier to our opponents winning the game by any means, which gives us time to destroy them. Committing to Snow-Covered Plains is also seen as beneficial because for decks running Extraplanar Lens Snow Plains are seen as beneficial since they don't help your opponents. Both the book and Faceless Haven are tutorable with Search for Glory, which can help with putting this together.

There really isn't much of an argument against running this combo, and Mutavault would make it more consistent, so that's a good call! So far I haven't quite felt committed enough to pick up the set of snow plains and these cards, but having two ways to do it could push me over the edge. I'll definitely put Mutavault on the maybe board.

duchessCretina on Bazaar Enchantments Reanimator

1 month ago

It seems you are clearly going for a competitive deck in here, so why not some Force of Wills?

also Faithful Mending seems nice. Gifts Ungiven could tutor specific cards for the graveyard and, along with Noxious Revival could make it so you find combo pieces on the opponent's end step.

Magus of the Bazaar is Bazaar themed and has a cool ability. (although i'm not a fan of 'bazaar' effects outside of dredge, but it seems to bear some significance to you).

Sandwurm Convergence is nice. if you tutor Form of the Dragon (maybe with gifts), you can lock the opponent out of combat.

and As Foretold would let you cast Resurgent Belief for free. Same as with Sram's Expertise and Baral's Expertise (but this one is high on the curve).

I think maybe you could have Prismatic Vista to tutor for Snow-Covered Plains for On Thin Ice

and a Karakas wouldn't hurt.

with some tutors you could even play around with Ghostly Prison and Blood Moon if you wanted to...

I really like the deck idea and it's nice to see people innovating in Legacy :)

wallisface on Eldrazi PanharmoniTron

7 months ago

Doing it without Tron lands could give you a brew that looks very similar to existing Soulherder archtypes (just without Soulherder)... something like this might be almost-competitive (although at this point, it's a very different list to what you're trying to achieve, so not sure if this is the route you'd want to go down):

StopShot on What's the minimal number of …

9 months ago

Cards: Glacial Crevasses, Snow-Covered Mountain.

I've had my eye on possibly running Glacial Crevasses in my EDH decks for quite some time now as I feel it makes an excellent combat deterrent. By having this card on the field the whole table knows I can completely negate an attack thrown at me even when tapped out which can help keep combat-oriented decks from wanting to waste their combat step on me.

The problem is this card only works if I have Snow-Covered Mountains. If I have none Glacial Crevasses means nothing to my opponent, if I have one Snow-Covered Mountain my opponents might try to fish me into sacking it and if I have three Snow-Covered Mountains my opponents will likely not bother with me until the game reaches a 1-versus-1 state.

This card is easier to run in mono-red decks, but I want to put it in 3-color decks which means I don't want to flood my entire manabase with Snow-Covered Mountains especially if I'm not going to draw into Glacial Crevasses certain games.

Additionally would you count fetch-lands towards your Snow-Covered Mountain count, such as Arid Mesa , Ash Barrens , Bloodstained Mire , Prismatic Vista , Scalding Tarn and Wooded Foothills? (My 3-color red decks usually run all 6 of these fetches just to color fix with Ravnica shock lands if needed.)

Also how good would you evaluate Unstable Frontier as a utility land? If I'm running Snow-Covered Forests, Snow-Covered Islands, Snow-Covered Plains or Snow-Covered Swamps, I can use Unstable Frontier to turn any of them into a Snow-Covered Mountain and as a color fixing source if I have too many Snow-Covered Mountains, but I don't know if it would be better to just use another Snow-Covered Mountain over it instead.

Lastly, should I run cards like Alpine Meadow, Highland Forest, Sulfurous Mire and Volatile Fjord? I already run all the Modern fetch-lands that could tutor for lands such as these, so I could hit them very consistently, but I don't like the fact they're tap-lands. Given I run only three colored decks I can only ever fit any of two of them at a time. Would they be worth an inclusion?

Thank you for your insight.

PurePwnage on Boros Prison

1 year ago

TeyoSelflessProtector, Thanks for the feedback. Not really, as nothing I cast has double white, except for Norn's Annex and even then I will never cast it for it's 5 cmc. Statistically speaking, 35 percent of my Mana consists of basic Snow-Covered Plains which is more than enough to simply ignore the replacement effects of Blood Moon . The rare exception would be going up against a matchup with Ponza, yeah then I would most likely have a bad day.

Neotrup on Prismatic Geoscope and what counts …

1 year ago

@aznb01777 In the future, if you have any questions that need to be addressed, please submit them as new questions so they can be put into the new questions section for visibility. All the rulings I'll be listing will come from Prismatic Geoscope 's Gatherer page, and the rule from the comprehensive rules as of February 2nd 2021.

As was stated in this thread earlier, there are 5 basic land types as defined by rule 305.6:

305.6. The basic land types are Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest. If an object uses the words "basic land type," it’s referring to one of these subtypes. An object with the land card type and a basic land type has the intrinsic ability "{T}: Add [mana symbol]," even if the text box doesn't actually contain that text or the object has no text box. For Plains, [mana symbol] is {W}; for Islands, {U}; for Swamps, {B}; for Mountains, {R}; and for Forests, {G}. See rule 107.4a. See also rule 605, "Mana Abilities."

Having multiple basic lands of the same basic land type does not increase the mana produced by Prismatic Geoscope :

11/8/2016 How many lands you control of a particular basic land type is irrelevant to a domain ability, as long as that number is greater than zero. As far as domain is concerned, ten Forests are the same as one Forest.

Even though Snow-Covered Plains and Plains have different names, they share the Plains subtype, so they're not counted separately:

11/8/2016 To determine the number of basic land types among lands you control, look for the Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest subtypes among the lands you control. Count each subtype that appears one or more times toward the number of basic land types among lands you control. This number can't exceed five.

Note that the ruling specifically calls out that the number can't exceed 5. If snow-covered basics and regular basics were counted separately, it could go up to 10.

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