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Creature — Elemental Incarnation
When this enters the battlefield, exile up to one other target creature. That creature's controller gains life equal to its power.
Evoke—Exile a white card from your hand. (You may cast this card for free by paying the evoke cost. If you do, sacrifice this when this enters the battlefield.)
2 days ago
I think WotC has lost track of what they want to do with modern, there are a lot of cards on the banlist because they can be cast without using mana: Once Upon a Time, Mental Misstep, Gitaxian Probe, Dread Return, Blazing Shoal and Eye of Ugin making your Eldrazi-Spells free.
Legacy should be the format of free spells; Not modern and printing the Evoke Elementals in a Set designed for modern contradicts that philosophy. The Evoke cost should have included //// in addition to the exiling of the card in hand.
Regarding the pricing: I agree on your point that there are too many mythic rare pushed card that make the mondern High-Tier decks too expensive and WotC should change something about that. The pricing and the fact that Modern went from a turn 4 format to a turn 3 - 2 1/2 format makes Pioneer more and more attractive.
Regarding bans: there are currently 2 engines that dominate the Metagame:
The 4c Elementals using Omnath, Locus of Creation and Wrenn and Six for Value and the free Evoke Elementals for Interaction represented in the 2 decks 4c Elementals and 4c Blink:
I think Omnath needs to go for the following reasons: it replaces itself, provides t5 enough mana to also play Fury or Solitude, can be pitches for the Evoke costs and gains life against aggro decks. That's just too much for a single card, especially if you compare it to our Lord and Savior.
The other is the UR engine around Ragavan, DRC and Expressive Iteration presented in decks like Murktide and Death's Shadow:
The problem with these decks is that they are too effective in what they do in comparison to decks of the same arctype not running that engine, so they just need to be turned down a bit.
For this reason i'd like to see Mishra's Bauble go: Pushing cards like DRC, Expressive Iteration, Unholy Heat and Ledger Shredder from "good" to "too good" makes this card a reasonable ban without destroying the decks.
- On a personal note: I'd like to have Teferi, Time Raveler banned. Interaction is what makes this game fun and having a card that says "I play magic, you play Hearthstone" is the opposite of that.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
2 weeks ago
Oh (bleep) you're right! LMAO. Like I said, I've been playing since Revised and have a LOT of decks. Always had a penchant for tribal knights (even though there have been/are better tribes for sure through the years). My Modern version does, in fact, run Giver of Runes. The Kor designation doesn't allow me to Cavern of Souls her in but I do run plenty of white sources. I'm sorry bud. 100% my bad. Sorry about that. I need to NOT drink my scotch and give advice. I just get soooooo excited when I see a solid knight tribal build I lose control.
I WILL post my ACTUAL MODERN legal version in the next few days. Giver of Runes is my only non-human or non knight creature in that deck. I run everything else human and/or knight in that deck-most are both. I announce my first Cavern of Souls as "knight" which prevents counter magic on all but the Giver of Runes and Noble Hierarch. Those both being (ideally) early drops-counter magic doesn't normally come into play.
My current, most regularly played, Modern deck is not knights (although I do play it still for a change of pace once in awhile but it's not my number one deck-hence my leading you astray). My current regular MODERN deck is as follows:
Deck: Greif Blade
Main: 4 Ephemerate 1 Poet's Quill 1 Batterskull 4 Giver of Runes 1 Sword of Fire and Ice 2 Plains 3 Godless Shrine 3 Concealed Courtyard 3 Skyclave Apparition 1 Takenuma, Abandoned Mire 3 Tidehollow Sculler 2 Malakir Rebirth Flip 2 Charming Prince 1 Kaldra Compleat 1 Silent Clearing 1 Shriekmaw 4 Grief 3 Feign Death 4 Marsh Flats 1 Lion Sash 1 Flooded Strand 3 Touch the Spirit Realm 1 Swamp 1 Castle Locthwain 2 Agadeem's Awakening Flip 2 Solitude 4 Stoneforge Mystic 1 Verdant Catacombs
This is the list I run most frequently so it's the one I know best and have readily available to share. This is NOT a net-deck AFAIK. If there is an identical or similar list floating around in Cyberspace it's purely coincidental. This list was home brewed and is one of my favorites I've ever made through the years.
3 weeks ago
I have to say, I really love the idea of this deck. If Solitude wasn't so horrendously expensive I might actually buy into it. This deck is generally quite outside of my wheelhouse, so I'd have to buy pretty much every card in the deck. Maybe someday :)
Also, have you considered Remorseful Cleric? It's tutorable yard hate, which seems extremely relevant in the current meta (not to mention that a 2 CMC 2 power flyer is probably fine anyway).
1 month ago
Have you ever considered splashing green for Collected Company? All of your creatures except Solitude can get hit and it could be a nice board option if your Aether Vials can't stick. Also Tidehollow Sculler could be sweet too.
1 month ago
I’m going to add here a description of what a control decks purpose is about, as hopefully this helps with your deckbuilding decisions.
The primary goal of a control is to win by having more resources in-hand than the opponent, while ensuring the opponent can’t do anything too dangerous on-board. In this vein:
you need ways to increase your hand size, to get ahead of your opponent in cards - so you need ways to draw 2-or-more cards (or, a card that draws as-well-as disrupts, in one package) Current control decks typically do this vua 4x Archmage's Charm and 2x Memory Deluge. But other options include Into the Story, Think Twice, Expressive Iteration, Cryptic Command, etc. Without a way to get more cards than an opponent, a control deck will run out of resources, and then lose to top-decks.
you need a way to finish the game that also provides incremental value. Control decks want creatures that 2-for-1, so that they maintain their resource advantage - so their creatures are things like Snapcaster Mage, Solitude, a cycled Shark Typhoon, or failing that manlands like Celestial Colonnade. If the creatures you use don’t provide you resource advantage, then they’re more likely to hurt your plans than help you.
lands are super important. You need to be able to cast resources from your hand to gain & maintain your advantage. A control deck that can’t play a land everyturn for the first 4-5 turns of the game, will very-often lose. Because a Control deck often has a near-full hand, there’s often no-such-thing as drawing “too many” lands, while drawing too-few is disastrous.
So, in summary, every-single-card in your deck that isn’t a land, either needs to provide some form of resource-advantage, or trade 1-for-1 with an opponents card (i.e Counterspell, Prismatic Ending etc).
Taking the above points and comparing them to your current build:
Deflecting Palm, Boros Reckoner, Hover Barrier, Ugin's Conjurant and Basri Ket are all bad choices as they offer you no form of resource advantage (and some of these, like the Conjurant, are just terrible in general).
Your selection of counterspells leave a lot to be desired. Too many if them have very specific targets on what they can counter, which isn’t ideal as it means your “resources” may sometimes be useless. A lot of these also cost a LOT more mana than what they should, considering their average effects.
you don’t have enough ways to gain resource-advantage.
your land count is waaay too low.
you have no “finisher” card that actually wants to be in this deck.
2 months ago
Hey thanks for replying, my brother ran this list last night and did pretty well for himself. Im still tweaking it, but its def inspired a lot by your list. We both lost to the same control player last night in 3. Was blue white control, Solitude was def the hardest to deal with among all the broken teferis n stuff.
Any way heres our list
Do not have money for the red green fetches, so using the ones we have and borrowing our buddies boseijus .
2 months ago
Hey, sweet deck. Let's take a look at win conditions and lands. I've identified a problem with your deck: You aggressively want to control the board with your 1-3 drops. While other players are playing 6 mana bombs every turn your are trying to eke out board advantage with 3 or 4 creatures a turn.
- You don't need board wipes in this deck, they actively go against your game-plan, and in no way help you win.
- Less removal in general. I counted 18 pieces of removal in your instants and sorceries. Keep Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares, and Damn and get rid of the rest. You ARE the threat, if your deck is running slowly to the point that you feel like you need removal, you need better creatures.
As for lands, use this mana base.
- 1x Ancient Tomb
- 1x Arid Mesa
- 1x Blightstep Pathway Flip
- 1x Blood Crypt
- 1x Bloodstained Mire
- 1x Bojuka Bog
- 1x Boros Garrison
- 1x Brightclimb Pathway Flip
- 1x Buried Ruin
- 1x Command Tower
- 1x Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire
- 1x Godless Shrine
- 1x Marsh Flats
- 6x Mountain
- 1x Myriad Landscape
- 1x Needleverge Pathway Flip
- 1x Orzhov Basilica
- 4x Plains
- 1x Rakdos Carnarium
- 1x Sacred Foundry
- 1x Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
- 5x Swamp
How would I change your win condition...well you are trying to do knight tribal...
Consider these cards:
- Bond of Discipline
- Response / Resurgence
- Sorin Markov
- Aether Vial
- Luminarch Aspirant
- Lion Sash
- Harsh Mentor
- Blood Moon
- Price of Progress
- Flametongue Kavu
- Selfless Spirit
- Remorseful Cleric
- Unexpectedly Absent
- Goblin Rabblemaster
- Skyclave Apparition
- Palace Jailer
- Grim Lavamancer
- Bonecrusher Giant
- Dark Confidant
- Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
- Leonin Arbiter
- Umezawa's Jitte
- Hunted Horror
- Rotting Regisaur
- Shadow of Mortality
- Hunted Nightmare
- Dauthi Voidwalker
- Robber of the Rich
- Sudden Spoiling
- Esper Sentinel
- Kolaghan's Command
- Walking Ballista
- Felidar Retreat
- Marshal's Anthem
- Forsworn Paladin
- Lunarch Veteran Flip
- Soul Warden
- Soul's Attendant
- Heliod, Sun-Crowned
Remove these cards:
Good luck, and happy hunting. Let me know if you want to continue the conversation or have questions
2 months ago
Oh yea, $-wise apparitions are better than solitudes for sure. I haven't playtested too much with Marchs, but being able to blink a Solitude (even without Ephemerates) is just so efficient. It's good to have another ETB payoff with all the blink in the deck.
As for not being able to be tutored, I am not saying to take out the apparitions, they're still great for a tutor in a pinch so I would leave them in.
My interpretation of going from to means we want to maximize Imperial Recruiter's use without leaving the deck less powerful if we never draw our recruiters (aka not having other good ETBs to pair with the blink). I also use Fervent Champion to take advantage of free sword equip or actually realistic kaldra equip but that's just me