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- Flickering Uro
- Can you use Ephemerate to cheat in a manifested non-creature card the same way you can with Cloudshift?
- What happens if Skyclave apparition re-enters the battlefield before it's first trigger resolves.
- If I blink a card: Cemetery Illuminator what happens with the previously exiled cards?
Exile target creature you control, then return it to the battlefield under its owner's control.
Rebound (If you cast this spell from your hand, exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost.)
3 weeks ago
The main problems I ran into were that you cannot run the Undying Malice type cards because the only card they work with is Grief, and if you only have 4 targets, both Grief and Undying Malice are pretty terrible on their own and you won't hit the combo very often. So basically you are forced to run at least 4 more creatures and switch to flicker spells, but then you run into the problem of flicker spells being mono white and not pitchable to Grief, plus they are useless on their own. And even then I ended up trying to fit too many cards into one deck. So yeah if you want to run this type of deck you would need to cut herald and a lot of the artifacts, and sometimes the saga package too if you go BW.
However you did give me an interesting idea, which is if you included Fury as well and then went for a BR midrange scam rack type of deck. Rakdos gives you access to Kroxa, Fury, Bolt, K-Command, Terminate, etc.
3 weeks ago
Changes to be made:
Mulldrifter for Search Party Captain : Better digging option with the upside of being able to be evoked if in a pinch. SPC being dependent on attackers is good for when Abdel has made enough tokens, not great in your opening hand though.
Stonehorn Dignitary for Watertrap Weaver : Why tap an opponents creature when you can stop them from attacking at all? Yes they will be able to use their remaining creatures as blockers, No Abdel doesn't care when he attacks with 100x 10/10 soldiers.
Fellwar Stone and other two cmc rocks will replace the three cmc ones over time to lower the curve even further.
1 month ago
Yorion’s banned, but you probably want to aim for something like this.
I see from your list that the cards you’re considering currently aren’t at all great - I wouldn’t suggest running any of these outside of Ephemerate and Soulherder. I’d suggest staying away from any other suboptimal flicker spells, and ensuring that your etb-creatures do a LOT more (like the ones in the list i posted above)
2 months ago
I think I might favor Tocasia's Welcome over Collected Company here, though Welcome would be even better if your bounce effects could happen on your opponent's turns. Ephemerate isn't quite as repeatable as Soulherder, but it is cheaper to cast, though not a creature spell itself. There's also the classic Restoration Angel, but that seems too high MV and only a one time use. Saltskitter seems interesting, but not particularly reliable. Eldrazi Displacer would be great if it didn't require 3 mana to activate. Thraben Doomsayer doesn't give the all the benefits of a bounce, but token generation is still a powerful trigger with Soul Sisters. If any of those made the cut, then I'd say you didn't need Blue spells at all, which would make your mana base faster, cheaper, and more reliable.
I think Speaker of the Heavens is a pretty perfect fit with Soul Sisters.
While on principle, I like protecting permanents, I think Patch Up might be strong enough that removing your creatures could prove more helpful to you than to your opponents - something that usually frustrates the hell out of me.
I'm not convinced shock and fetch are the best lands. While the lifeloss is less painful when counterbalanced with Soul Sisters' lifegain, it also negates some of the advantage of gaining life. Equally efficient lands that don't cost life would be better. Pathways and fast lands seem, at least to me, just as good if not better: Barkchannel Pathway Flip, Branchloft Pathway Flip, Hengegate Pathway Flip, Seachrome Coast, Razorverge Thicket, Botanical Sanctum
2 months ago
2 months ago
DemonDragonJ I have no idea what stemmed their change in decision, though their change in policy seemed to happen not long after Ephemerate became widely popular in Modern - though that’s likely just a coincidence. It’s hard to pin-down what would have stemmed their decisions, but I suspect it would have started from them seeing troublesome/obnoxious flicker interactions in 2-or-more formats, with Standard being the one they watch the most.
2 months ago
DemonDragonJ its a problem for game design. The goal of Wotc isn't to make every ability as overpowered as possible.
Sorcery-speed re-triggering of ETBs is pretty safe. Instant-speed triggers starts to get problematic: With instant-speed flicker, its pretty common for an opponent to try and kill a creature, just to have it flickered in response, both completely cancelling out their killspell, but ALSO allowing you to get profits from a re-triggering of an ETB.
It makes sense that a game company looking for card-balance wouldn't like that instant-speed flickering covers such a wide-base of effects, being able to be so powerfully defend ones boardstate while simultaneously allowing for strong aggressive effects.
It is very likely that Phasing was bought back so that they could "split" instant-speed flickering, so that Phasing handles the defensive-aspect of that effect, while sorcery-speed flickering then can allow for re-triggering of abilities and so-forth.
If the company decided to keep instant-speed flickering, then they would most-certainly HAVE to dial back how powerful ETB effects could be, and that's clearly not something they'd want to do as it restricts design space. Splitting flickerings effects across Phasing allows them to broaden their design space and create more interesting ideas, without being hindered as much by the abuse instant-speed-flickering can create.
Footnote: you seem to be discussing this with me as if I somehow can change the course of the future, which just isn't the case. I'm just trying my best to articulate the reasoning for Wotc's likely move-away from instant-speed flickering the best I can. When I posted a quote made by Verhey on "ETB abilities being a problem", those were his words, not mine, but your reply seems to make me think you believe I'm personally accountable somehow? I'm just acting a messenger in these conversations, trying to illustrate a companies reasoning for balancing an effect.
3 months ago
So, this is my current thinking for this list - basically moving Thalia to the sideboard, and trimming some cards i’d rather not see multiples of. Also ditching Ephemerate:
3x Marsh Flats