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Michigone on Isshin for a Fight
1 month ago
Change Log 28-Feb-2023: Quick change to represent the higher costs as the deck shifts a little bit.
Balaam__ on Balaam__
1 month ago
@Daikodubs Alright, so here’s what I cobbled together. It isn’t quite Sultai, and I’d actually very much recommend abandoning a tri color mana base in favor of instead, but if you’re dead set on Sultai it’s easily adaptable.
4 Vapor Snag 10 Swamp 4 Spell Pierce 4 Mana Leak 6 Island 4 Hedron Alignment 4 Gurmag Angler 4 Counterspell 4 Cling to Dust 4 Choked Estuary 4 Cabal Therapy 4 Cabal Therapist 4 Bojuka Bog
You’ve got enough mana to reliably cast Hedron Alignment from your hand.
You’ve got 8 cards that will get a copy from your hand into your graveyard, namely Cabal Therapy and Cabal Therapist. Just name yourself as the target player and dump from your own hand.
You’ve got 8 cards that let you exile a copy from your graveyard, playsets of Bojuka Bog and Cling to Dust. That last one will let you recover lost life too in case you’re dangerously close to death.
You’ve got a boatload of countermagic to fizzle a lot of what your opponent may try, either to stop you or else to bolster their own strategy.
Lastly, I threw in Gurmag Angler because you mentioned you like Delve and it’s also a fine card to block with if necessary or even to win with should Hedron Alignment somehow not be a viable wincon for whatever reason.
Prices fluctuate depending on where and how you buy, but this rings it at around $20 or less depending on the set of card you’re looking at. Like I said, this is but one way to try building around Hedron Alignment and there are many others. But the idea is to fully commit to it while ignoring anything that’ll only distract from it. Take it, adjust it as you see fit, make changes etc.
Hope this helps.
Michigone on Isshin for a Fight
1 month ago
Change Log 17-Feb-2023
Move to Maybe Board:
Add/Move to Main Board:
Mortlocke on The Song of Phyresis
1 month ago
Thanks for posting! ONE is definitely going to shake this deck up considerably in that I absolutely plan to incorporate some of the spells that give opponents Poison counters - without targeting them, no less. I have a number of changes already planned and would love to hear your thoughts as I'm honestly having a bit of a tough time speculating on what to cut to make room. So far, here are my planned changes
Ixhel, Descendent of Atraxa for Hand of the Praetors: Given that Infect will be less dominant of a mechanic among creatures in this deck cutting Hand of the Praetors seems logical. Besides, with the host of cards that allow me to place poison counters directly on opponents, Hand of the Praetors seems even less relevant.
Skrelv, Defector Mite for Viridian Corrupter: Skrlev provides so many benefits being a psudo Mother of Runes that also grants Toxic and evasion. Viridian Corrupter's ETB effect is far too narrow for my liking, and only amounts to just a 2/2 with Infect. Toxic creatures such as Skrlev boast so many "goodstuff" effects that it's a no brainer why Corrupter has to be cut.
Myr Convert for Grateful Apparition: Apparition has long been on the replacement list as it's a non-phyrexian. Myr Convert is a perfect replacement as it's another mana dork that can put poison counters on players. Losing a proliferation source is a loss, but given the horde of new Toxic creatures that proliferate off of one trigger or another, this overall is a net gain.
Bloated Contaminator for Priests of Norn: Bloated Contaminator is actually my dream creature for the set. Evasion, Poison and Proliferate on a great body is just a dream come true. My only hope is that there is another creature just like it in March of the Machines. Priests of Norn is an okay creature for the most part but doesn't amount to much beyond just being a 1/4 infect creature.
White Sun's Twilight for Winds of Abandon: I've always been somewhat disappointed with Winds of Abandon as it more likely than not can ramp my opponent far beyond my ability to stop them. Sure, a horde of tokens can be wiped out - but at what cost? White Sun's Twilight isn't exactly a one sided boardwipe, but it can get me a bunch of 1/1 creatures that put Poison counters on players on top of slowing them down.
Vraska, Betrayal's Sting for Sheoldred, Whispering One: Obviously i'm happy to see Phyrexian themed planeswalkers and I'm overjoyed to see another Planeswalker with a focus on Poison counters. Swapping Vraska in for Sheoldred is both a mechanics and a flavor win - Sheoldred turned her back on Elesh Norn to pursue her own misguided and selfish desires along with the heretic Urbrask.
Tyrranax Rex for Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger: I've enjoyed the Soft lock VoH places on the board just by virtue of being there alone, but I've felt that his control never really synchronized with the rest of the deck. Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider compliments the deck directly and is a huge flavor win. Tyrranax Rex just seems like the perfect upgrade as it is CMC cheaper, has almost as many keywords as Questing Beast and places multiple Poison counters on an opponent when it hits. Rex in my eyes is a "backup" Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon in terms of power level and "feel".
Phyresis Outbreak for Toxic Deluge: Phyresis Outbreak is the mass removal I've always wished for and is a direct upgrade to Deluge - within the context of this deck that is. This card is absolutely a must include.
The Seedcore for Swamp: The Seedcore gives me Sliver Hive vibes, but having a card that fixes my mana in a 4 color deck and is a flavor win just seems like a no-brainer.
Venerated Rotpriest for Glistener Elf: Venerated Rotpriest is just a deterrent as this deck has very few spells that I would consider worthwhile for targeting my own creatures. Glistener Elf is an okay card but within the context of EDH it's "meh". Late game it hardly makes an impact without a horde of +1/+1 counters and some form of evasion.
Contaminant Grafter for Blight Mamba: Containment Grafter feels like a great card that can help reinforce a boardstate and put additional pressure on opponents mid to late game. Early game it would essentially help me run away with the game through conditional ramp and card advantage. Blight Mamba has honestly never done much for me and generally is as impactful as Glistener Elf.
Now comes the list of cards I think are at least worth considering (that I may or may not include) but don't exactly know what to cut to make room for:
Staff of Compleation: This is a big flashy card that caught my attention given the myriad of things it can do. However without the right combo piece this card could end up doing me more harm than good.
Glistening Sphere: There are very few drop mana rocks that are worthwhile, but this one definitely caught my eye. I'm not sure if it's any better than Astral Cornucopia though, as i've been ramped into the stratosphere with just a few proliferation triggers. Not to mention it only gets better just by having Atraxa on the field. I really want to like this card, but it doesn't seem to make the cut. If only it were
Infectious Inquiry: this seems like an absolute must have and am honestly considering cutting Phyrexian Arena for it. Arena does nothing the turn it ETBs and if I draw it late game it'll literally do nothing. Infectious Inquiry on the otherhand is always relevant, replaces itself and draws me a card. I just can't help but feel like i'm missing something by cutting Phyrexian Arena. I want to go ahead with this decision but I can't help but feel apprehensive and would really like your thoughts on this one.
Infectious Bite: I want to love this card but unfortunately besides the commander there are relatively few creatures whose bite would make any meaningful impact on the game. I think I might pass on this one.
Prologue to Phyresis: Everything you said about this card is spot on, and it is relevant at any point of the game. The question is - what to cut for it? I think cutting Contagion Clasp might be the move on this one, but i'm not entirely sure. Clasp is very conditional removal but what's important is that it's a repeatable proliferation source. But, maybe the new inclusions will help offset the loss of a proliferation source? I think this is the right move but I would like to hear your thoughts.
"What's your experience with Blightsteel Colossus and Contagion Engine? Do they ever come out to the battlefield or just happen to be on-theme inclusions?" To answer your question both hit the battlefield on a regular basis. Blightsteel Colossus is surprisingly easy to cast with a proliferated Astral Cornucopia or Everflowing Chalice. One of my best plays was countering a Villainous Wealth with being equal to 8 with Mana Drain and funneling that mana into a turn 5 Blightsteel. Contagion Engine is great for mass removal as well as a proliferation engine. If I tutor for it it's usually alongside Tangle Wire after Ichor Rats hit the field. It essentially grinds the game down to a snail's pace - or a halt under the right conditions.
End rant, sorry to write you a book but I had a lot on my mind. Please let me know what you think of all the upcoming changes!
SirHipHopHippo on Mono black PW
1 month ago
Cut Decanter of Endless Water for Jet Medallion Cut Swamp for Vesuva Cut Vengeful Pharaoh for Phyrexian Obliterator
BobFromAccounting on Compost Pile (Help Wanted)
1 month ago
- Trim 2x Prismatic Vista or 2x Woodland Cemetery for 2x Boseiju, Who Endures. Most of your costs are single pip, so you don't need to fix as hard.
- Trim 1x Forest for 1x Swamp or 1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. Either would be find, swamp is searchable off fetch, but you run two creatures with double black pips, and nothing with double green.
- Consider Life from the Loam & Dakmor Salvage package as recursive dredge. Loam also lets you abuse fetches to thin deck. Pairs nicely with Bloodghast.
CommanderNeyo on Rograkh and Tymna's Background Check
3 months ago
Thank you for the feedback! I hadn't seen Brazen Cannonade, and I will consider adding it. I'm not particularly sure what I would replace it with, but I like that it accomplishes two goals in the deck (rewarding aggressive plays, providing card advantage).
As for Hall of Heliod's Generosity, I don't know why I didn't have that in the deck before! An excellent inclusion. Thank you for the suggestion, I will see what land I think I can cut for it, probably just a Swamp.
legendofa on Destroying $1,000 proxies on camera
3 months ago
Daveslab2022 My position is that attention brings consumers. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that some, or many, or most of the purchased packs were picked up by an investor or two who don't know a Time Walk from a Swamp, but saw phrases like "limited release," "controversial," and "collector's items" and thought they could make something out of it. I understand that the M:tG has largely rejected it, but what communities has this loud dismissal attracted? How much of a profit did WotC make from people who don't care about Magic and never will?
To paraphrase Samuel Goldwyn, don't pay any attention to the cards--don't even ignore them. If I see it for sale, I will pass it over. If someone forces a pack into my hand, if I can't give it back, I will do as I said above, and either quietly leave them in a box or use them as the decorative paper that they are.
Outrage and controversy bring interest, and interest brings consumers. If the greater collector community can be shown that there is no demand for or interest in this product, it can wither away and become a minor footnote in the book of failures. As it is, I suspect that people bringing attention to it have, well, brought attention to it. Not every consumer of M:tG has the best interests of the M:tG community at heart.
I'm not going to stand up and yell, "Do not buy this rare luxury product! Do not resell it for lots of money! If you treat it as a profitable investment, it will become a profitable investment! And that's bad!" I encourage people to not buy it, to walk past it, to refuse it if offered. Don't advertise it, even to show how bad it is. Don't say that people are willing to pay $1,000 for it.
Telling WotC directly how badly they messed up is a good move. Telling the world that there's a rare and limited collectible available, but that you shouldn't buy it, isn't a good move, in my opinion.
I guess in the end, denial is denial, whether it's angry or apathetic, and I think (hope) that WotC got the message. I just worry that the product and surrounding events attracted the wrong crowd.
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