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- Loxodon Gatekeeper + Winter Orb
- Orb of Dreams + Winter Orb
- Thalia, Heretic Cathar + Winter Orb
- Nature's Will + Winter Orb
Legality
| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Big Apple Highlander | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Freeform | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Oldschool 93/94 | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| PreDH | Legal |
| Premodern | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Winter Orb
Artifact
As long as Winter Orb is untapped, players can't untap more than one land during their untap steps.
hyalopterouslemur on New player got a question.
6 days ago
What you're looking to play is a Stax deck. The good news is, a lot of Stax pieces are colorless. The bad news is, first, Stax is expensive, and secondly, Stax decks generally place you right in Bracket 4. (It's cards like Smokestack and Winter Orb that place you there.)
One thing you can do, regardless, is play Winter Moon, which costs under $2 at most places. More expensive decks tend to run more nonbasic lands, especially in the current meta where 4+ colors is the norm. In a deck like you're building, you're going to be running mostly (all?) basics, which are unaffected. Stax kinda works like that, finding ways to break symmetry.
Profet93 on
Kozilek EDH
6 days ago
I like the low avg cmc which is uncommon in a colorless build. I'm not the biggest fan of low lands, but it makes sense to a lot of people, especially with all of your artifact ramp.
Chromatic Lantern - I see no benefit here, outside of maybe being able to cast stuff that you take from exile but even then, its ripe for cutting as it's main benefit is mana fixing which you don't need. Not that I would put it in, but at least Coalition Relic can provide a slight benefit > Lantern.
I enjoy all of your many, many combos which are expected in a colorless build.
Some light stax would be beneficial. Something like Torpor Orb is completely one sided benefit. Storage Matrix is another potential option and of course, there is Winter Orb. Blinkmoth Well is nice to use with it + politics.
Mind Stone > Prismatic lens
Would love your thoughts, lmk if you want more suggestions. Overall, I'm enjoying this build, you did a great job.
theNeroTurtle on
Cabbages
1 week ago
you could use Icy Manipulator to tap Winter Orb before right before your turn. This would allow you to be the only person in the game using all of their recourses each turn because it turns off Winter Orb. During your untap step, just untap it last.
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theNeroTurtle on
Cabbages
1 week ago
you could use Icy Manipulator to tap Winter Orb before right before your turn. This would allow you to be the only person in the game using all of their recourses each turn because it turns off Winter Orb. During your untap step, just untap it last.
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Profet93 on
Ultima (Lemme Suck Ya Lands)
4 weeks ago
Eldrazi Temple - Ramp
Hall of the Bandit Lord - Haste, great for commander and eldrazi
Emergence Zone/Winding Canyons - Flash, I notice you already have 2x flash sources as a creature, these lands can be useful, especially canyon (on RL list as well).
Miren, the Moaning Well/High Market - Sac outlet to prevent exile + theft, can also sac shuffle eldrazi in response to grave hate + lifegain. I like well more because of the lifegain, especially if you had hall of the bandit lord, this can mitigate it.
Glad you enjoyed the suggestions. You could probably cut 1-2 lands relatively easily, especially if you replaced it with draw so it could help you get more lands. That way, it can also mitigate mana flooding in the late game. Here are some more cuts...
Glasses of Urza - Not really needed too much, nice to have but nothing crazy.
Lich's Mirror - High CMC, telegraphed and you have no way to consistently abuse it
Roaming Throne - You have a decent amount of eldrazi, but because this is not a tribal deck and you have redundancy in the form of strionic resonator and lithiform engine, this is not needed.
Strip Mine > Ark of Blight
Clown Car - I don't see its purpose here, perhaps I'm missing something (commenting late at night).
Skittering Invasion - High CMC, bad ramp/blockers.
Spectrum Sentinel - Protection on a weak creature and minimal lifegain? Perhaps a meta call?
If you do end up adding more of the lands I just mentioned, then you might want to cut extraplanar lens. Lens, while potentially very powerful, can very easily be a 2 for 1. Moreover, a colorless deck's mana base is very powerful given all of the utility. I find it is usually best to have a few (10 or less) basics and lean on the utility rather than for the potential of ramping. This of course depends on how much removal the meta has, your past experiences with it (+ with the new potential changes in the deck). I know it is probably a hard cut, but definitely worth noting.
On the flip side, you do run winter moon so I presume that there is a lot of non basic lands in the meta (hence spectrum sentinel) and your commander? Winter moon would hurt you more with the more non-basics you add. It's your only "stax" card. I would say if you're going to go stax, go more into it or disregard it. I believe removing it would be best. If you still want the stax route, Winter Orb, Static Orb or even Storage Matrix can all be useful - even more so with blinkmoth well!
Alternatively, Cursed Totem is only anti-synergistic with 5 creatures of yours (can be swapped out for artifact ramp should you wish to go the cursed totem route - meta dependent).
Be sure to let me know your thoughts/thought process.
DreadKhan on
Misery in Weasel Form
1 month ago
I find Rite of the Raging Storm does a lot of work in a Chaos type deck, it also makes sure opponents have some defenses up (or they're going to get swamped by 5/1 Trample tokens), extra good with some kind of Goad effect.
My all time favorite Chaos effect is probably Thieves' Auction, this is extra good if you run cards that don't care about who controls them, they'll go last and odds are someone else will get stuck with it, and the effects continue! You get to pick first, so you'll always get the best thing.
Static Orb is one of the crazier Stax pieces, and it's got huge synergy with your Commander IMHO because you don't need mana to cheat out your next crazy effect, just to swing! You could also try Winter Orb, but Static Orb changes the game FAR more (fwiw both out is also great for obvious reasons). Not many people remember Smoke at this point, but it's a reasonably strong effect. Silent Arbiter would be pretty funny with your Commander, you're much harder to swarm AND nobody can block your Commander!
I'm not sure if you enjoying sharing your fun, but I've had a blast using Allure of the Unknown, usually I give the player who's behind a free spell, this is especially useful if you're using spells/effects that are symmetrical.
Oh, since this list should mulligan INCREDIBLY well, how about Winds of Change? If you play this turn one before everyone else goes then you will have DRAMATICALLY changed the game without having risked much yourself, since you simply need 2 more mana to cast your Commander, one of them Black.
SaberTech on Should Colored Artifacts be the …
4 months ago
The way that I see it, artifacts first started out as a flavour thing. When the identities and mechanics of the colours were first being worked out flavour had a major impact on card design and it didn't make much sense for an object like a sword to be aligned with a colour. Anyone could pick up a sword after all. So objects, devices, and constructs were made artifacts.
Later on, artifacts allowed some colours access to mechanics that were normally seen in other colours, but in a far less efficient manner. An example would be a flying artifact creature that was far over-costed for the body it provided, but it at least gave green access to a flier in a limited environment. To serve that roll, it makes sense for artifacts to be colourless so that any colour can use them.
Wizards wanting to provide gameplay altering effects found an outlet with artifacts, such as with cards like Winter Orb. Enchantments also filled the role of providing continuous game-altering effects but the flavour of enchantments was more in line with a colour trying to impose its own rules on the game, thus they were coloured. If WotC wanted an effect to be accessible to any colour then it got put on an artifact due to them being colourless. Chalice of the Void comes to mind in that regard.
In a similar vein, colourless artifacts are also a way for WotC to provide answers to game issues and make those answers available to all colours. Mana fixing, graveyard removal, various stax type effects, etc. Colourless artifacts can be potential quick fixes to meta issues that can be inserted into a set as a sort of emergency game patch.
Moving on to the more modern environment of the game, things are now clearly different from the game's early years. The colour pie of mechanics for the game is relatively settled and archetypes within the game have become more established and expanded upon. Artifact-themed sets have required each colour to develop signature interactions with artifacts, and artifacts in turn have been designed to match with the ways that a particular colour may interact with them. Some effects that have been printed on artifacts are just too tied to a particular colour for the effect to be made freely accessible to the other colours. This was first expressed with artifact activated abilities requiring coloured mana to use and then moved on to coloured mana being required to cast the artifact at all. Flavourwise, it's an acknowledgement that the ideologies that drive each colour would lead to particular artifacts aligned with those ideologies to be developed.
I think that there is a clear place for both colourless and coloured artifacts within the game. The development of artifacts with coloured mana costs strikes me as a necessary development to both support artifact themes while maintaining the mechanical boundaries of the colour pie. I certainly wouldn't like to see colourless artifacts stop being printed but coloured artifacts also clearly have a place within the game now.
Coward_Token on Official missing/incorrect card/token thread
4 months ago
Winter Orb should be listed as a "mass land denial card" for the purpose of EDH brackets.
On that note, there's no way to add bracket-related info trough "Add, fix card" right?
